Spehornoob
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I had to see the pictures to understand the resemblance, and even then I think it's a stretch.
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Zara to stop selling shirt resembling Holocaust "uniform", will "exterminate them"
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Why? Words and symbols change meanings all the time. Whys the one that represents genocide need to be accepted again?
Edit. Also want to say that as a Jew I don't initially see the shirt in the op as a reference to the Holocaust
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Seriously why would the sheriff wear prison stripes?
You weren't there man.
JumpJeff84
Member
I feel like this was an honest mistake
There's even the word "sheriff" printed on the star.
frankie_baby
Member
Because it represents something completely different to hundreds of millions of people
Yea, but can't really see that word on my phone in that image.
NinjaBoiX
Member
No, not at all.
It's a different garment (tee instead of shirt), the stripes are in a different direction, and they're far closer together.
It's like peas and carrots, seriously.
It's just people looking for issues.
figadapaura
Member
It doesn't look like a shirt a sheriff would wear though....
A spanish retailer, with most stores being in Europe, is kinda automatically eurocentric.
The only similarity between the two is a a colour scheme and emblem placement/shape. Perhaps this is enough for someone to say it's too close but hey, if you wanted to stretch things that far you may as well say the Sheriff emblem replacing the Star of David empowers whoever is wearing it as opposed to being labelled to be killed.
I've never seen those holocaust clothes before and I bet the designers hadn't either. You can find a trillion different cheap shirts with this sort of arrangement.
I've never seen those holocaust clothes before and I bet the designers hadn't either. You can find a trillion different cheap shirts with this sort of arrangement.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
It's not a stretch.
Host Samurai
Member
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/.../zara-stops-selling-holocaust-shirt/14671937/
some of their other hits
Good job!
I see no problem with this. Just people reaching.
I think the owner of Zara is Jewish too
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
"@zh1nt0 We honestly apologize, the T Shirt was inspired by the sheriffs stars from the Classic Western films and is no longer in our stores
ZARA (@ZARA) August 27, 2014"
Now thats a familiar username. Isn't zh1nt0 a gaffer?
Oh wait, he was the product community manager and is now producer at DICE.
ZARA (@ZARA) August 27, 2014"
Now thats a familiar username. Isn't zh1nt0 a gaffer?
Oh wait, he was the product community manager and is now producer at DICE.
The Albatross
Member
I'm sure it was an honest mistake... Zara's clothing engine basically just produces massive amounts of shit and throws it at a wall hoping one of them will stick. I think they did the right thing by taking it down.
Also that swastika bag, jesus christ. Anybody who says like "ths symbol does not have any evil connotation it was a symbol for blah blah for thousands of years and that the nazis only used for a while..." GTFO, you're full of shit. When a symbol becomes widely associated with something, that association sticks and it has a new meaning to people. Hammers and sickels were tools for thousands of years, but y'know, put them together on a flag and it's going to be a symbol for Communism; a cross has been a shape for as long as human history has existed, but you put it up on a building and people recognize it as a symbol for Christ. Symbols can be co-opted and symbols have meaning. The swastika is one of the most widely recognized symbols for anything in the world and it is a symbol for the Nazi regime, which systematically murdered millions of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, mentally handicapped, homosexual, and any other people deemed undesirable, while also launching a devastating and destructive campaign of murder and conquest over. For nearly the entire Western world -- of which Zara sells clothes to -- the swastika represents that and nothing else and nothing else.
Also that swastika bag, jesus christ. Anybody who says like "ths symbol does not have any evil connotation it was a symbol for blah blah for thousands of years and that the nazis only used for a while..." GTFO, you're full of shit. When a symbol becomes widely associated with something, that association sticks and it has a new meaning to people. Hammers and sickels were tools for thousands of years, but y'know, put them together on a flag and it's going to be a symbol for Communism; a cross has been a shape for as long as human history has existed, but you put it up on a building and people recognize it as a symbol for Christ. Symbols can be co-opted and symbols have meaning. The swastika is one of the most widely recognized symbols for anything in the world and it is a symbol for the Nazi regime, which systematically murdered millions of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, mentally handicapped, homosexual, and any other people deemed undesirable, while also launching a devastating and destructive campaign of murder and conquest over. For nearly the entire Western world -- of which Zara sells clothes to -- the swastika represents that and nothing else and nothing else.
Brilliant.
KingKiller
Neo Member
The most obvious answer being the most likely, their doing this on purpose. Maybe to garner attention maybe because someone thinks it's funny. I don't know. I just can't imagine anyone being that stupid.
The star even already says "Sheriff".
This, however, is true.
And yet I still stand by my statement lol
DiipuSurotu
Banned
This shirt was never sold in Israel, so, yeah, they may have been aware.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
"@zh1nt0 We honestly apologize, the T Shirt was inspired by the sheriffs stars from the Classic Western films and is no longer in our stores
ZARA (@ZARA) August 27, 2014"
Now thats a familiar username. Isn't zh1nt0 a gaffer?
Oh wait, he was the product community manager and is now producer at DICE.
Should've fucking known.
Fix this shit DICE.
CornBurrito
Member
I ctrl-f'd my post but couldnt find any instance of the word "ban" or any synonyms. Sorry.
I have no problem with Swastikas used in other countries. But you should also, if you are in the West, be mindful of the culture over here. I'm not going to stop being "eurocentric" when my statements are limited to what sort of behavior is and isn't acceptable in the Western world.
I immediately saw the similarity to the concentration camps uniform but I also saw a sheriff badge.
I'm not willing to give Zara the benefit of the doubt because it's nonsensical to put together the idea of a sheriff being a prisoner.
I'm more inclined to believe someone wanted to push boundaries and a lot of executives at Zara didn't care, were clueless or just as willing to see if it could work.
I'm not willing to give Zara the benefit of the doubt because it's nonsensical to put together the idea of a sheriff being a prisoner.
I'm more inclined to believe someone wanted to push boundaries and a lot of executives at Zara didn't care, were clueless or just as willing to see if it could work.
freenudemacusers
Member
have you seen kids clothing? practically zero of it makes any real sense and is just random shit slammed together.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
I think its an honest mistake but I just don't understand how nobody caught it.
Mysterious
Banned
NYCmetsfan
Banned
That's not what he said
Mysterious
Banned
If someone from those religions wears garment with that symbol on it, you know there will be backlash.
Uh because it's also a religious symbol? It's akin to the cross, crescent or star of David.
jediyoshi
Member
Could you go into detail about the distinction between 'prison' stripes and the normal kind?
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Yup. I thought it was a bit of a stretch too but then I saw the other ones.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
No?
They did get the stripes in the wrong orientation.
Yeah its not exact but its close enough that I can see why people complained
Mysterious
Banned
"@zh1nt0 We honestly apologize, the T Shirt was inspired by the sheriffs stars from the Classic Western films and is no longer in our stores
ZARA (@ZARA) August 27, 2014"
Now thats a familiar username. Isn't zh1nt0 a gaffer?
Oh wait, he was the product community manager and is now producer at DICE.
How does a community manager become a producer? Isn't that Miyamoto level?
freenudemacusers
Member
i'm curious about the swastika purse. going by official statements, it seems the supplier goofed and sent them a different pattern after signoff. I've worked in production with overseas manufacturers, and this kind of thing does happen from time to time.
more questionable to me is boy london's logo, which is fairly non-subtle in it's wink-wink nodding.
more questionable to me is boy london's logo, which is fairly non-subtle in it's wink-wink nodding.
Mysterious
Banned
Uh dude, it's a religious symbol. It has been and always will be. To millions of people of Indian and East Asian heritage, which represents people in the billions, it means something good. You can't take that away from them; it isn't fair and it isn't right. So "For nearly the entire Western world -- of which Zara sells clothes to -- the swastika represents that and nothing else and nothing else," is fucking bullshit.
This is also bullshit. Someone shouldn't be entitled their religious symbols because Germany decided to also use the symbol? "Be mindful of the culture over here," so basically, these Buddhists and Hindus shouldn't be allowed to express their religion? Isn't that against one of the US amendments regarding religious expression?
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