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NFL 2014 Week 16 |OT| Nobody goes 8-8 like the Buffalo Bills!

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bionic77

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DeaconKnowledge said:
I just realized something:

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The curse of the Terrible Towel is real.



Bruh, 2007 was 7 years ago.

Since that year Arians has gone to 2 Super Bowls, the Colts with Andrew Luck and became a head coach. The book on him has been written.
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I agree.

At the end of the day he wins but gets his qbs killed.

Most fans are ok with that.

I can see why the Rooney's were not and wanted to extend the life of their qb.
 
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Zeke

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I didn't know Luck has thrown more picks(14) than anyone but Cutler and bortles. So far the defense has only been blitzing 20% of the time this season. Week 5 against Houston they blitzed 45% of the time. Week 13 the first eagles game was their lowest at 9% and last week they blitzed 18%. I wonder if the defense is going use the general plan they used against the saints. Drop guys into coverage and force check downs.
 
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MechDX

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Zeke said:
I didn't know Luck has thrown more picks(14) than anyone but Cutler and bortles. So far the defense has only been blitzing 20% of the time this season. Week 5 against Houston they blitzed 45% of the time. Week 13 the first eagles game was their lowest at 9% and last week they blitzed 18%. I wonder if the defense is going use the general plan they used against the saints. Drop guys into coverage and force check downs.
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We didn't blitz as much this past week. Crennel was disguising coverages by showing blitz but dropping back. Finally shut down Hilton exactly as I said: hit him at the los and throw off his timing.

Shut down Hilton is the key. Rest of their receivers are not very good
 
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Zeke

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Your netao cowboys info of the day today is Dallas just leaped frogged the Yankees and are the most valuable US sports franchise. They went from 2.3 billion to 3.2 billion.
 
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yankeehater

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MechDX said:
We didn't blitz as much this past week. Crennel was disguising coverages by showing blitz but dropping back. Finally shut down Hilton exactly as I said: hit him at the los and throw off his timing.

Shut down Hilton is the key. Rest of their receivers are not very good
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The key to what? Still losing?
 
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Zeke

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MechDX said:
We didn't blitz as much this past week. Crennel was disguising coverages by showing blitz but dropping back. Finally shut down Hilton exactly as I said: hit him at the los and throw off his timing.

Shut down Hilton is the key. Rest of their receivers are not very good
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I thought TY and Wayne are out this week? Who was vontae lined up on when you guys played and how did he look? I'm curious about the vontae, Dez match up.
 
Goro Majima

Goro Majima

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I honestly don't see the Bears upgrading from Cutler anytime soon if they do move on. I would probably stick it out with him because otherwise you're looking at several lost seasons trying to find your guy. As much as Mech shits on Schaub, he's still the best QB the Texans have ever had and it's not even close.

On the other hand, there's more freedom in the sea of shittacular QBs because you can move on willy nilly. Dealing with those sort of good to good quarterbacks like Palmer, Dalton, Tannehill, Cutler, Stafford, etc. must be maddening for a franchise to deal with and gameplan around. These guys can and do win Superbowls though provided they have a great running game and a great defense.
 
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greatestjediever

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dionysus said:
This is not true.

Rodgers and Cam alone make more. Rodgers at 17.5 and Cam at approximately 7. At least that is their cap hit. Contracts can be structured such that the actual money paid that year varies. What is important is the cap hit.

Edit. That is what they are doing, comparing contracts with big signing bonuses to Cutlers which has no signing bonus.

Edit2. And Cutlers cap hit this year is only 18.5 which basically matches his salary.
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Well, its disingenuous but it's not exactly false. Since signing bonuses are due at the time of signing and this is the first year of Cutler's new contract, he has a base salary of 17.5 mil + 5 mil signing bonus = 22.5 million he is paid this year. His cap hit is 18.5 mil as you said, since the 5 mil is prorated over the 5 year contract, but future cap hits can change if he is ever cut. Green Bay already took the big hit on Rodgers contract since his 33 mil signing bonus was given last year, even if the cap hit is prorated over the contract. Technically, last year Rodgers was paid close to 40 mil last season, whereas this season he gets about 11 mil, even though the cap hits each year were 12 mil and 17.5 mil respectively.
 
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The_Darkest_Red

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wienke said:
I honestly don't see the Bears upgrading from Cutler anytime soon if they do move on. I would probably stick it out with him because otherwise you're looking at several lost seasons trying to find your guy. As much as Mech shits on Schaub, he's still the best QB the Texans have ever had and it's not even close.

On the other hand, there's more freedom in the sea of shittacular QBs because you can move on willy nilly. Dealing with those sort of good to good quarterbacks like Palmer, Dalton, Tannehill, Cutler, Stafford, etc. must be maddening for a franchise to deal with and gameplan around. These guys can and do win Superbowls though provided they have a great running game and a great defense.
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I can handle it with Tannehill because it's only his third season and he's still improving, plus his surrounding cast is not that special (no redzone threats at all, mediocre running game, bad o-line). His ceiling in terms of skill (not playing style) is probably Flacco/Ryan, though.

I'd take Tannehill over any of the guys you listed. Anyone disagree?
 
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The_Darkest_Red

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Fun stat of the day: Ryan Tannehill's 50 yard completion to Mike Wallace against NE was his longest of the season, putting him at number 42 in the category --- tied with Bengals WR Mohamed Sanu.
 
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Syrinx

Member
Hey Mech.

Last night I had a dream that I was watching the Texans play (crazy, I know). Anyway, they officially ran out of QBs and they put in J.J. Watt as the QB. And he won.

Maybe I can see the future or something.
 
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Mrbob

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wienke said:
I honestly don't see the Bears upgrading from Cutler anytime soon if they do move on. I would probably stick it out with him because otherwise you're looking at several lost seasons trying to find your guy. As much as Mech shits on Schaub, he's still the best QB the Texans have ever had and it's not even close.

On the other hand, there's more freedom in the sea of shittacular QBs because you can move on willy nilly. Dealing with those sort of good to good quarterbacks like Palmer, Dalton, Tannehill, Cutler, Stafford, etc. must be maddening for a franchise to deal with and gameplan around. These guys can and do win Superbowls though provided they have a great running game and a great defense.
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Team should be starting David Fales instead of Clausen.
 
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Himynameischris

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Zeke said:
I thought TY and Wayne are out this week? Who was vontae lined up on when you guys played and how did he look? I'm curious about the vontae, Dez match up.
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Vontae will make good plays and then bonehead mistakes, Dez will have at least a few good catches against him.
 
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dionysus

Yaldog
greatestjediever said:
Well, its disingenuous but it's not exactly false. Since signing bonuses are due at the time of signing and this is the first year of Cutler's new contract, he has a base salary of 17.5 mil + 5 mil signing bonus = 22.5 million he is paid this year. His cap hit is 18.5 mil as you said, since the 5 mil is prorated over the 5 year contract, but future cap hits can change if he is ever cut. Green Bay already took the big hit on Rodgers contract since his 33 mil signing bonus was given last year, even if the cap hit is prorated over the contract. Technically, last year Rodgers was paid close to 40 mil last season, whereas this season he gets about 11 mil, even though the cap hits each year were 12 mil and 17.5 mil respectively.
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Yea, they are looking at the salary part only. I think they are even ignoring roster bonuses and other shit that people can have in their contracts.

I mean the travesty is that Cutler's cap hit is slightly higher than Rodgers. You don't need to be disingenuous about it by only looking at the narrowly defined salary number, and adding in people who are performing well on low draft pick salaries like Wilson. Really you should never make a comparison with the new CBA between rookie contracts vs. FA contracts. Stars on their rookie contract are always going to have ridiculous value.
 
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Grover Cleveland

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Joe Person ‏@josephperson 14m14 minutes ago
Newton took all the 1st-tm snaps in individual drills during open part of practice. Threw 65-yarder that Philly Brown couldn't track down.

Well I'm sold.

If he can out throw Philly Brown, he's physically good to go as far as the throwing motion.

I'm still wary to see how he responds the first time he takes a shot in the injured area. Can't really simulate that in practice with the red jersey on.
 
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BigAT

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Zeke said:
Your netao cowboys info of the day today is Dallas just leaped frogged the Yankees and are the most valuable US sports franchise. They went from 2.3 billion to 3.2 billion.
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Hard to give any merit to those valuations after they were off by like 300% for the Clippers.
 
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MechDX

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J.J. Watt is 3.5 sacks away from being the 1st player in NFL history w/ 2 seasons of 20 sacks in a season. Has 7 his last 3 games. #Texans

And no one is noticing but he is only 6 away from tying Strahans racord this year with games vs Ravens and Jags.
 
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Coldnoodle

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MechDX said:
J.J. Watt is 3.5 sacks away from being the 1st player in NFL history w/ 2 seasons of 20 sacks in a season. Has 7 his last 3 games. #Texans

And no one is noticing but he is only 6 away from tying Strahans racord this year with games vs Ravens and Jags.
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What
 
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The_Darkest_Red

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DeaconKnowledge said:
So what are Wallace's cap numbers? He's pretty useless if he can't go deep.
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This comment is straight out of 2013.

Wallace has become a decent route runner thanks primarily to his quickness. The problem is he sucks at just about everything else like catching the ball.

It's pretty common knowledge that he is grossly overpaid by the Dolphins.
 
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