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Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 (PC/XB1/PS4) reveal trailer, screens, info, more [Read OP]
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You can switch to your combat knife for one hit knife kills.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
It amazes me that people don't want browser support when games like CSGO offer official ranked servers and the ability to host your own plus whatever files you want.
I will stick to consoles thank you very much. As for sitting in lobbies, I don't. COD games have the quickest matchmaking I've seen.(on console of course)
BTW, the lobby countdown doesn't restart when people leave. Not on console. There is actually a decent enough player base that those who leave are instantly replaced by another match.
If you want browser on COD then feel free to make a petition. I doubt you'll get many to sign it though. Many of us prefer the DURRRR button.
EDIT: Think about it this way, do you think its a good idea to have people sort through thousands of custom playlists just to find a match? Most don't. COD is primary a console game and there's where the fanbase is at. Considering the games continue to sell millions and million every year and I've never heard anyone complain about playlists.
You want to create a custom playlist that bans some guns/perks/killstreaks/maps...etc, right? That's what I'm getting from your posts.
All I'm trying to say here is that I disagree about this being a necessary feature, especially on console.
Ame
Member
My feelings exactly.
I haven't purchased a COD game since the first Black Ops. When AW launched last year, I decided to dive back in. Didn't like the chaotic pace exo suits introduced, traded it in a couple of weeks later. Watched the Black Ops III reveal trailer and was still skeptical due to the boost jumping and such.
These two bullet points are kinda making come around.
Nabs
Member
I wouldn't mind both. Just let me use the playlist/matchmaking feature for TDM/KC with my friends on Treyarch servers, and have community dedicated servers as an option. I'm generally a fan of player run dedicated servers, but the COD community really pissed me off me during the Blops 1 days. I got kicked/banned daily for either being better than whoever, or... for jumping. I'm not even talking about those stupid-ass crouch-only servers, regular HCTDM servers would ban or kick me for pressing the space bar. It was incredibly annoying.
Cod 4 did great on PC and thousands of people are still playing it just fine. I can boot it up, join a server, and play until I am bored. Thats what servers bring. I can select what I want. Its not confusing or hard. thats what allows games to last. You arent bound to a population of a playlist, but the population of the entire community.
If a browser is too confusing for you (with the statement you made it obviously is) then I guess you cant handle features.
Why were older PC games able to function with server browsers then if this was such a huge problem? Because it wasnt a problem. It was a small group of people in the corner.
DOWN
Banned
The very clear exception that proves the rule exists. Bad ports like that are exactly why development isn't handled Shadow of Mordor style for cross gen.
This is exactly the kind of thing that I don't understand why people would want it in COD.(or any game really)
I never said its confusing or hard. I'm not stupid.
I said its unnecessary. It's much better to just click on a game mode you want to play and it has all the maps and everything enabled, how the developers intended.
Hope you get your server browsers on PC. I just don't want it on console.
Nabs
Member
Well, player operated dedicated servers are generally good places to create and maintain a community. You'll be able to go back to that same 25ms server and see many of the same faces, and know you're in a place that won't tolerate bullshit and all that. The negative feelings I have towards Blops 1 comes directly from that particular community. Even though I have a ton of bad experiences, I still had a few servers that I could call home. I'll take that over your average p2p connection any day of the week.
But you dont get all the maps. I have never played certain maps in blops 2 ever. I never have. Because people never go near them because of thee lobby system.
In blops 1, I play on a server that rotates through all the maps. Thats something I never experienced in blops 2.
I have no problem with consoles having lobbies. Consoles are meant to be restricted and locked down with little features or control. Thats what consoles are for. PCs have options. Thats why I play on them. I just want the PC version to have a server browser because it works in the PC community. It has for decades.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Sorry, but it is. All of the console games I've gotten serious into multiplayer have had server browsers. SOCOM 1-CA, Star Wars: Battlefront 1/2, Warhawk, Battlefield 3/4.
Having a server browser, in addition to quick match, greatly improves the end user experience by allowing you to pick your own server based on relative ping, location, rules, maps, modes. I get more consistent connections playing Battlefield 4 than I do Advanced Warfare.
i gotta agree here, having server browser would be great
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Damn this game is sounding awesome. No panick knife is welcome!
GuitarAtomik
Member
This is so me right now. I was extremely convinced that after Advanced Warfare didn't grab me, I must just be done with CoD. I heard "Black Ops 3" and was like "Nope. Definitely out". Then I see the trailer. Cyborg action? Wall running?? MOBA style character classes for MP??? Customizable main character?!!?? I have no choice but to pay attention now.
DOWN
Banned
Because when it rains money from a game trend, it pours. We've got a lot of future FPS games now.
constantstatic
Member
Code redeem site is too slow.
Is the site gonna explode?
What's the rush? the beta probabley isn't starting until September or October.
JigglesBunny
Banned
I need to enter those codes and cancel my pre-order.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
I'm very surprised by this. It is a radical departure from the Call of Duty formula in many ways. I watched the trailer and was thoroughly confused by it all and the more I read the more I'm intrigued.
We have a lot of a lot of stuff. I'm talking of CoD though.
brickarts295
Member
I swear to god this happens in every COD, the details makes it sound like its going to be great, but then when you see the game is just looks like typical COD.
KOTICK!!!
but yeah this one does look like it could finally change the formula.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
I have way more faith in Treyarch than IW or Sledgehammer.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I saw the regular edition and the $99.99 edition were up for pre-order on PSN. I wonder what the theme looks like.
$49.99 season pass and AW BO3 content.
$49.99 season pass and AW BO3 content.
brickarts295
Member
So do I, Black Ops is still my favorite COD with BO2 close behind.
I swear to god this happens in every COD, the details makes it sound like its going to be great, but then when you see the game is just looks like typical COD.
KOTICK!!!
but yeah this one does look like it could finally change the formula.
But they arent all the same. Hence why very vocal people ITT didn't play/like AW for whatever their reasons. Black Ops plays nothing like AW, or WaW, or MW2 etc.
FreshCakes
Banned
Really wish Call of Duty wasn't an annual release. Activision should give IW and Sledgehammer the boot.
Their titles sell milions. And score well. I mean, this is a business.
FreshCakes
Banned
Yeah they sell, but I remember seeing something about sales declining after each new release.
TheShocker
Member
Am I reading right that you select a "pre-selected" character for MP matches? As in you can't customize your MP player anymore? Sorry if it's been addressed, I'm not familiar with MOBA games and how they work.
Do you mean combat knife when no secondary weapon is set? If so then I welcome this change with open arms.
I'm all right with the melee change, though I also liked how the knife in Black Ops II had a more precise range of use, and didn't home in as much. Required just a little more finesse to use compared to the other games.
I'm guessing the tactical knife attachment will be more valuable than ever now. If that /is/ indeed going to be available.
Selecting characters for Multiplayer doesn't suddenly turn Call of Duty into a MOBA. In any case, I'm pretty sure those characters will be customizable in and of themselves. Perhaps not to the degree of the campaign main character, but they're pushing customization harder than ever. And I don't think they want a multiplayer match where everyone looks like the same person.
I'm guessing the tactical knife attachment will be more valuable than ever now. If that /is/ indeed going to be available.
Selecting characters for Multiplayer doesn't suddenly turn Call of Duty into a MOBA. In any case, I'm pretty sure those characters will be customizable in and of themselves. Perhaps not to the degree of the campaign main character, but they're pushing customization harder than ever. And I don't think they want a multiplayer match where everyone looks like the same person.
The difference between matchmaking and a server browser is in automating the process of finding a suitable game, it has nothing to do with whether there's a player host or not.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Im just glad its Treyarchs maps again. They seem to be the best at making them.
Correct. Drift0r made a 16-minute video detailing how the Specialist system works. He played every Specialist character available and tried every ability during the hands-on event at Treyarch. Everything is super customizable as usual, plus now you get this extra layer to your character with a specific weapon or ability (you can only pick one):
"I want to make it clear that you still load in with all of your Create-a-Class stuff. You're not trading in your weapons, you're not trading in perks, you're not trading in anything else. You still load in just like a normal Call of Duty game. You choose your guns, you choose your perks, your loadouts, your customization, all of that sort of stuff and it's pretty straightforward, except..."
Map design will be really important in this, since they are sticking with elevated jumps.
You can't simply design a map like a real-world place. Real-world places place walls, windows and barricades (like, say, a broken down van) with an implicit concept of the height at which people traverse things; a wall in a map doesn't seperate players as much as it does in most shooters if you can quickly leap over it, and windows become accessible entry points rather than just viewpoints for the building's occupier.
They're really going to have to design some interesting looking maps to capture a Call of Duty-like flow while maintaining the vertical movement.
You can't simply design a map like a real-world place. Real-world places place walls, windows and barricades (like, say, a broken down van) with an implicit concept of the height at which people traverse things; a wall in a map doesn't seperate players as much as it does in most shooters if you can quickly leap over it, and windows become accessible entry points rather than just viewpoints for the building's occupier.
They're really going to have to design some interesting looking maps to capture a Call of Duty-like flow while maintaining the vertical movement.
Yeah I don't believe this. They said the same for AW, and its P2P most of the time.
No rentable server? No server Browser? PC version is not a priority.
Peanut Butter
Member
The sales are declining, but CoD still outsells just about everything that comes out. And with Black Ops 3, more people might be returning to the franchise since it's Treyarch, Zombies is back, and Black Ops is a well-known franchise.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
The AW devs only said they would be supporting dedicated servers, but never specified in what way or which platforms.
Big difference from the statements Treyarch has been making.
Also one of the Treyarch leads is a huge PC fanboy so there's a reason to believe it.
Dreathlock
Member
Better Anti-Cheat confirmed: https://twitter.com/pcdev/status/592952427055185920
"TAC is getting some major upgrades."
"TAC is getting some major upgrades."
Akiyama_AE
Member
Anyone hope zombies go back to Takio / Tank / Nikolai and Richtofin ? I liked them more than the BO2 group
Black Ops 1 and 2 also had dedicated servers for Ranked on PC. It's probably too soon to go into details on server browsers or rentable servers, but they've confirmed there's a dedicated PC team at Treyarch working on the game. Drift0r played it on PC and has his thoughts in this video... says he'll probably be buying the PC version.
If he is why don't the PC players have the essentials? A server browser has been what the PC community has been asking for ever since they removed it. That and rentable servers.
BO2 was P2P at the start. Dedicated servers took ages to come in. And even then private servers were P2P. And yeah I don't believe anything from someone that makes money playing CoD on a youtube channel. They aren't exactly going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Well I mean
Fuck
I instantly dismissed the game when I heard about the movement, but this is starting to sound pretty amazing
I can't afford pre-ordering so no beta for me, but I guess the holidays are reserved for CoD this year too
Black Ops 1 and 2 also had dedicated servers ranked. AW was made by sledgehammer and their approach on PC was at modest good but not like Treyarch at least they have a good legacy on PC for a longtime.