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Why won't Sony let me use an external drive? Also, I'd rather they work on fixing the fan noise because the PS4 can get way too loud when playing a disc based game.
i am going to assume this and xb1 1tb harddrive models are going to have added 4k movie streaming capabilities?
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...aming-consoles-will-see-release-this-fall.htm
if that's the case i can see a cod 1tb bundle from sony for 399 which also has 4k movie streaming capabilities and sell a 299 AC bundle or something for the price conscious people. price drops won't be until PGW imo.
my prediction for holiday bundles announced at PGW is
299 AC bundle
349 1tb cod bundle
custom star wars bundle for 399
Your comments doesn't indicate why Sony would remove the blu Ray drive. None of those things benefit from the removal of blu-Ray.It's not aimed at you, or me for that matter. Andrew House, during SCE's investor day last week, outlined their strategy for FY2015, and said they will push a lot of online services (Vue, Spotify, PS Plus, PS Now) in FY2015 to grow the customer base, I suspect this PS4 model plays into achieving that.
Both Xbox and PlayStation will offer Network-only models this generation. It's inevitable and lead-in to purely Network-only next-generation in 2020.
Why won't Sony let me use an external drive? Also, I'd rather they work on fixing the fan noise because the PS4 can get way too loud when playing a disc based game.
Please have 5GHz wifi
We need to go slimmer.
Why won't Sony let me use an external drive? Also, I'd rather they work on fixing the fan noise because the PS4 can get way too loud when playing a disc based game.
Your comments doesn't indicate why Sony would remove the blu Ray drive. None of those things benefit from the removal of blu-Ray.
Does anyone remember this?
Smaller, cheaper, cooler Xbox One processor in development http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...aper-cooler-xbox-one-processor-in-development
AMD decided to skip 20nm due to low yield and poor gains over 28nm. MS/Sony could still be looking at 20nm with AMD but its far more likely they'll be waiting on 14/16nm which will reach production 2h 2016.
E3 2016 is probably when we'll get to hear from either company regarding a slim model release.
Does anyone remember this?
Smaller, cheaper, cooler Xbox One processor in development http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...aper-cooler-xbox-one-processor-in-development
If the same thing's happened with the PS4's APU I'd be very interested. Does anyone think this explains the power reduction? Would love to upgrade to a quieter and more power efficient version of the system next to my TV.
Didn't fw 2.5 enable external storage?
Backup only
I'd like that too, but for that sort of hardware fine tuning one should head to custom built PCs. I doubt Sony (or Microsoft) revise their hardware with stuff like cooling optimization as a central point. For example, it's very likely the reduced power draw comes with a smaller heatsink as well. So while the chips generate less heat, the heatsink is smaller too. They're trying to drive costs down, not make a thermometer geek's holy grail.
Fixed that for 'ya.$299 - 500GB, TLOU bundle, standard unit.
$399 - 1TB, "special" bundle (your Assassin's Creeds, your Far Crys), elite unit.
Ok. But a much bigger deal would be enabling external storage. I can already easily (and cheaply) expand my PS4 internal HD to 1-2TB.
In contrast, MS needs to make the 1TB model the new standard & enable easy replacement of the internal HD. Not allowing for this already is mind-boggling. At least they got the external storage thing right.
Both companies got it wrong with HD sizes to start with...500Gb drives are a joke at this point. Lots of us were shouting this from the roof-tops for months prior to both system launches. I still recall a lot of people saying "500Gb is enough". SMH. Amazingly, both companies seem to be stubbornly avoiding or too slowly implementing storage features that most gamers want. Bit of a head-scratcher.
AMD decided to skip 20nm due to low yield and poor gains over 28nm. MS/Sony could still be looking at 20nm with AMD but its far more likely they'll be waiting on 14/16nm which will reach production 2h 2016.
E3 2016 is probably when we'll get to hear from either company regarding a slim model release.
Please have an external power brick .... like honestly my PS4 is like a jet engine which is why I only use the thing for exclusives. I'd buy this model if it fixes cooling issues and if its in the Uncharted 4 Special Edition PS4 i'd get that.
Before any of you say " oh it needs space for air flow" etc. Its on top of my entertainment stand with plenty of airflow.
Ok. But a much bigger deal would be enabling external storage. I can already easily (and cheaply) expand my PS4 internal HD to 1-2TB.
In contrast, MS needs to make the 1TB model the new standard & enable easy replacement of the internal HD. Not allowing for this already is mind-boggling. At least they got the external storage thing right.
Both companies got it wrong with HD sizes to start with...500Gb drives are a joke at this point. Lots of us were shouting this from the roof-tops for months prior to both system launches. I still recall a lot of people saying "500Gb is enough". SMH. Amazingly, both companies seem to be stubbornly avoiding or too slowly implementing storage features that most gamers want. Bit of a head-scratcher.
AMD decided to skip 20nm due to low yield and poor gains over 28nm. MS/Sony could still be looking at 20nm with AMD but its far more likely they'll be waiting on 14/16nm which will reach production 2h 2016.
E3 2016 is probably when we'll get to hear from either company regarding a slim model release.
lol i'm not upgrading any fucking hard drive and risk losing P.T. even if the backup utility is supposedly safe. I foresee problems
They were not desperate with PS2 either and yet when it got its first price drop it was $100 from $299 to $199 despite that they were crushing competition and for example in US PS2 was selling way better than PS4 does currently. $100 price drop can be more profitable for them even in rather short term because of huge boost in hw sales, sw sales and PS subscriptions. I stil think they will skip the $349 price point like with PS3 and go straight to $299 this fall.
They will be desperate over the course of 2016 as they reach "core" market saturation. The Xbox One price drop to $350 only had a small effect, and only during the holidays.
$349 will not get new people on board, $299 will.
The Xbox One should also come down to $299 by this holiday. Time for these consoles to start selling to the late adopters and casual gamers. History has shown us that these consoles will not survive being more than $299 past a certain point.
Would be interesting if Sony brings out the first network only home console
I have over 40+ games on my HDD, 10 are AAA games. With the PS4 and its good sales, I went all digital without really thinking much over it, it just happend. It's convenient, fast and easy. I wouldnt mind a second PS4 without bluray drive...smaller and more portable...
Please, please fix the damn noise levels.
The current models can't handle full load or high load without breaking past 50-60dB which is insane for a gaming console. Temperatures are great, but the damn fan noise made me sell the system. Went through four of them trying to get one that wasn't so damn loud while playing for example TLOU or games with similar stress put to the system. Even opened one up and exchanged the thermal paste myself and managed to lower it by 5-10dB. Was still too loud. Impossible to keep it running during night time without getting a headache (or waking everyone in the vicinity up.) Might be effective cooling wise, but they cheaped out plenty on the solution. They should've kept the PSU external and put all that space to use for more fans.
Well Sony did release the PSP Go as a an online only experiment years ago.Would be interesting if Sony brings out the first network only home console
Yeh, and that was such a big success....Well Sony did release the PSP Go as a an online only experiment years ago.
i guess it wont be for the same price, $499?
It did better than they expected probably!Yeh, and that was such a big success....
No BD drive? Can't see that happening whatsoever.
Forking over cash to buy extra hardware and then taking a brand new machine apart to upgrade it isn't my idea of a good purchase. Besides, the HDDs Sony puts in the PS4 are almost guaranteed to have been through better QA than the back-up case-cracked ones.
500 to 1TB isn't going to increase the price by $100. A HDD space increase isn't THAT expensive, especially when comparing 500GB units to 1TB units.
I don't think any of this will be announced at E3.
This is basically what's to come later this year, internally redesigned unit to cut manufacturing costs, 1TB option for premium bundles, price cut announced.
Production will be ramped up and units stocked during summer to meet demand during the holiday season.
These new versions need 4k support...
Once again you cannot compare console prices of things to typical newegg.com prices on components.
While we see the price difference in a 500GB to 1TB drive is maybe $15 or so, usually, you have to factor in that they make contracts with the OEMs to get them, have specifications that they want met (more quality control) and that actually makes things cost more than usual.
I don't agree with HUGE price jumps for it (MS's HDD pricing scheme was always super screwy, to me) but $50 for double the storage, knowing all these factors and more are involved, isn't a problem.
I don't think any of this will be announced at E3.
This is basically what's to come later this year, internally redesigned unit to cut manufacturing costs, 1TB option for premium bundles, price cut announced.
Production will be ramped up and units stocked during summer to meet demand during the holiday season.