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nah, it needs booty physics.
I agree with Trickster, because I feel that you can get to the end of it without much investment, and a lot of times it just seems like it's just an option to be a "bang buddy". Usually it's just a few dialog segments where you talk to your party in between missions or at camp. In Xenogears for example, you see a relationship build up from the ground up, and you see Fei and Elly go through a lot of things together. In a Bioware game, it feels like their is no "growth through trial" part of the relationship. If I wanted to get a romance, I can go ask Morrigan how her day was, then ask about her history like 3 times throughout the game, then the bang option comes up. Sure, mechanically both things are the same, as in your are just going through dialog, but they execute much differently.
Also DA2 was really horrible with this. It's like no one had a preference besides if it has 2 legs and breaths, they want to bang it. I would like characters with nuance to them and have likes or hate. It also seemed really weird that Anders wanted to get it on, and he dislikes you if you turn him down, since I thought he was a decent guy in AwakeningIt just felt like you were playing with meters at that point.and not a psycho terrorist blowing shit up.
I would guess they object to the "gift NPC a bunch of crap and suddenly they want to fuck you and marry you" trope? And of course it ends there, they have sex and that's it, like it's the conclusion of the story.
Or am I confusing it with Skyrim? xD
I would have used the example from Wolfenstein: TNO myself instead of Bioware, anyway.
Morrigan Stark said:Well honestly, as a female player, seeing the boob jiggle in video games look just as stupid and ridiculous and eye-rolling as the animations above. It boggles my mind that people think they're actually hot, honestly. Funny? Ok sure. Sexy? lol wot
I agree with Trickster, because I feel that you can get to the end of it without much investment, and a lot of times it just seems like it's just an option to be a "bang buddy". Usually it's just a few dialog segments where you talk to your party in between missions or at camp. In Xenogears for example, you see a relationship build up from the ground up, and you see Fei and Elly go through a lot of things together. In a Bioware game, it feels like their is no "growth through trial" part of the relationship. If I wanted to get a romance, I can go ask Morrigan how her day was, then ask about her history like 3 times throughout the game, then the bang option comes up. Sure, mechanically both things are the same, as in your are just going through dialog, but they execute much differently.
Also DA2 was really horrible with this. It's like no one had a preference besides if it has 2 legs and breaths, they want to bang it. I would like characters with nuance to them and have likes or hate. It also seemed really weird that Anders wanted to get it on, and he dislikes you if you turn him down, since I thought he was a decent guy in Awakeningand not a psycho terrorist blowing shit up.
I understand mentioning the skimpy clothing itself, but why is the jiggle relevant to the ESRB?
lol, yeah, in The New Order, [mild spoilers]EDIT: Also what? Wolfenstein has sex scenes? That series sure has changed since I was younger!
I understand mentioning the skimpy clothing itself, but why is the jiggle relevant to the ESRB?
lol, yeah, in The New Order, [mild spoilers]BJ hooks up with a female character. But he actually develops a real relationship with her, and it feels pretty natural and genuine, not just "oh hey I'm the guy, you're the chick, let's fuck". It helps that the female character is her own character too, and doesn't exist only to serve as eye candy or as a "reward" for the male protagonist.
TNO was shocking in how... decent the writing was. xD Like, it's not super genius or anything. But I was expecting either something really lame and stupid, or something ridiculous to the point of self-parody, so I was really surprised.
Why?
It draws more attention to the often largely exposed or otherwise perfectly displayed breasts, maybe. I don't know. It's like the difference between a woman standing still in a bikini vs. a woman jumping up and down with the express purpose of making her breasts bounce for your amusement. One is more prurient than the other.
That was the idea behind the original mass effect. A space opera. It got a bit lost with the sequels.It's been a while since i played Mass Effect 1, but don't they have an entire race of basically "sexy alien women", those blue ladies with the octopus on their heads.
I mean if you're trying to have a mature sci fi story, you may want to avoid that one trope.
But then again, Mass Effect wasn't really all that mature to begin with, it's about a super space soldier fighting super bad space aliens and banging all sorts of folks around the galaxy, Kirk style.
I would guess they object to the "gift NPC a bunch of crap and suddenly they want to fuck you and marry you" trope? And of course it ends there, they have sex and that's it, like it's the conclusion of the story.
Or am I confusing it with Skyrim? xD
Super Metroid.Speaking of Samus, I was always pretty disappointed by how her armour got slimmer across entries.
Gotcha. Yeah I never liked Bioware games, but I care even less for the romance aspects in RPGs because it's always stupid shit like that.No that's definitely the Bioware games you're thinking about. It's the same approach used in all their games with "romance". Keep talking with the npc you want to have sex with between each story mission in order to unlock the sex scene at the end, which coincidentally almost happen to be shortly before the big dangerous mission near the end of the game.
And then there's the issue of how absolutely dumb the sex scenes look and are animated. It looks insanely dumb and awkward.
This reminds me of Harvest Moon 64, where I got married super early by showing Karen (the bar maid) my dog over and over, which due to a glitch caused her heart rate to max out after 10 minutes.
But then again, Mass Effect wasn't really all that mature to begin with, it's about a super space soldier fighting super bad space aliens and banging all sorts of folks around the galaxy, Kirk style.
Well to be fair, Harvest Moon is a more nuanced relationship game mechnically than the Bioware games and there is at least something to do after you reach the marriage and copulation part (I had to upgrade my house to have kids! Kids are expensive). I remember I had to give my wife some presents even after being married, and sometimes you have to stay with her when she was sick, or you can be a douchebag and go to work anyways (those watermelons aren't going to water themselves).
Probably not. Could be anything between P1 and P2, but I'm sure they toned it down from the glitched version.ERSB probably saw the P2 side jiggle.
Because it's probably noticable enough to be relevant?I understand mentioning the skimpy clothing itself, but why is the jiggle relevant to the ESRB?
nah, it needs booty physics.
nah, it needs booty physics.
Wut,
Ah, "booty". The Millenial's boob.
Ah, "booty". The Millenial's boob.
Liking butts is a millennial thing?
Not quite, but the bigger is better aspect of it is relatively (couple of decades) new.
nah, it needs booty physics.
Oh please, people have been into big butts since time immemorial.
Hahaha.
Well honestly, as a female player, seeing the boob jiggle in video games look just as stupid and ridiculous and eye-rolling as the animations above. It boggles my mind that people think they're actually hot, honestly. Funny? Ok sure. Sexy? lol wot
Mika's super freeze animationnah, it needs booty physics.
And people were into bigger waists to in Ancient Greece. You really don't remember Baby Got Back, early buns of steel were really flat or Moesha (the character) trying to burn her bum fat off? Granted not watching Moesha is a good thing.
I think you also need to consider that many of these characters aren't American, and are sort of more athletic people given that they are fighters so they may have less body fat. But yeah, people are sort of making a little bit of a stink when street fighter typically does a good job with women characters.I can understand the complaints about the costumes, or even the jiggle, but complaining about large breasted women as being unrealistic in games seems bizarre and counter productive. The average bra size in the states is a 34DD. That's a pre-reduction Simona Halep. Why is slim and androgynous being hoisted up as the ideal for women in games? That's not any more realistic than what we have now.
Ah, "booty". The Millenial's boob.
What's interesting is how invested people (of all genders) still get in those Bioware relationships, despite their structured nature.
Because it's probably noticable enough to be relevant?
Is the character select scene taking place in space?
Speaking of Samus, I was always pretty disappointed by how her armour got slimmer across entries.
I think you also need to consider that many of these characters aren't American, and are sort of more athletic people given that they are fighters so they may have less body fat.
Pretty boys, guys who are muscular but not overtly so, so more like a Chris Hemsworth Thor look. In terms of "skimpy" outfits, probably more like nice clothes but made skimpier (missing shirts, showing off arms, tight/form fitting). Definitely not simply gender bending the character which putting a guy in a revealing bikini is essentially doing.
Why? Unless you believe specially tailored armoe should be completely genderless...as long as it isn't ridiculous then what's the problem?
Ehh, ahtletic women USUALLY don't have big butts or boobs, but exceptional people do (the Williams sisters) and I'd consider any of the main characters, male or female, of most fight games (aside from jokes like Dan) to be exceptional at what they do...
This guy isn't "overly muscular"? Where the hell do you live, muscle beach?
Because it's all too common that women who wear power armour are more "form fitting".
Uh, odd change. Anyway, the split was kind of random, I think I like it better now.R Mika's CA has been censored: https://youtu.be/U0uvMjJBHc0?t=1m29s
No more butt slap.
They also removed the split. Nadeshiko and Mika don't hold the opponent's legs in a split at the end there.
Before:
After:
It's really freaking annoying that people like you think not liking fanservice = being offended. No one can possibly dislike fanservice, it just has to be because we're offended, or because we hate sex, or because we think there's something wrong with breasts.This whole thing seems to be more fodder for the professionally offended to me.
R Mika's CA has been censored: https://youtu.be/U0uvMjJBHc0?t=1m29s
No more butt slap.
They also removed the split. Nadeshiko and Mika don't hold the opponent's legs in a split at the end there.
Before:
After:
R Mika's CA has been censored: https://youtu.be/U0uvMjJBHc0?t=1m29s
No more butt slap.
They also removed the split. Nadeshiko and Mika don't hold the opponent's legs in a split at the end there.
Before:
After:
Absolutely disgustingNo more butt slap.