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Harry Potter [Mafia] |OT| “Yer a werewolf, ‘Arry”

Howdy everybody! I can confirm that my vowels have been left unharmed and I was not subjected to any switching (as far as I know). I'm gonna repeat Roy's question for this page because I don't really understand Gorlak's claimed win condition very well.

Hey gorlak, just to make sure: your win condition is to make it to the end of the game AND have everyone still alive at that point marked? It is not like Sorian in NX where he won just by having everyone still alive marked at any point during the game? You HAVE to also make it to the end?

Also, I'm a little wary to believe a neutral Umbridge could be recruited to the Death Eaters. Leaving aside the fact that from a lore perspective it doesn't make perfect sense, I think it would be weird if there were more than one player scum could recruit (the other being kingkitty, who was technically already scum but couldn't communicate with them).
 
You know what kind of game we are playing? The connection between us is purely flavour wise, because you basically love how I treat people (you love the punishing as well). And yes my win condition is very hard, but I can only play with the cards I got.

For clarification: We have 3 Roleblockers in the game!

Dementor - scum (could be a passive ability of L_P)
Punish - neutral
town spell (got blocked tonight, maybe somebody wants to admit they got blocked before? "red" was part of the pm)

I need you to fully paraphrase that flavour text for me.

NO ONE DESCRIBE A ROLEBLOCK BEFORE GORLAK DOES OR ELSE I WILL HUNT YOU
 
As I said, I got Roleblocked, supposedly by a Dementor (At least the flavor reads like one). So I saw nothing :(

Mad-Eye Moody, Ministry of Magic

So you claim to have tried to Watch me last Night, but you say you were Roleblocked by a Dementor. And you were also Poisoned

Tell me, what does the flavour text for being Poisoned say?
 

Rynam

Member
Mad-Eye Moody, Ministry of Magic

So you claim to have tried to Watch me last Night, but you say you were Roleblocked by a Dementor. And you were also Poisoned

Tell me, what does the flavour text for being Poisoned say?

There was no Flavour text for being poisoned. It just says in Red/Highlighted, that I have been poisoned and will die in 2 nights from now.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Hey gorlak, just to make sure: your win condition is to make it to the end of the game AND have everyone still alive at that point marked? It is not like Sorian in NX where he won just by having everyone still alive marked at any point during the game? You HAVE to also make it to the end?

I'm Sorian. Exactly like Sorian. The little tweek about having to survive should keep me alive longer, but you all doubt it anyway... should have gone with the real thing. Once I punished everyone alive, I'm done and out. This was to disguise the fact that I will at one point leave the game.

I need you to fully paraphrase that flavour text for me.

NO ONE DESCRIBE A ROLEBLOCK BEFORE GORLAK DOES OR ELSE I WILL HUNT YOU

I have no idea how to paraphrase this, something like this:

"red flash of light struck me down
my magic stick flew out of my hand
incapable of performing my action"

(which makes no sense if one recalls that punish shouldn't require my wand but a bloodquill, I blame Salva and Nin)

S? y??h...? g??ss ? g?t St?p?f??d.

There we have our stupefy victim... didn't Crab target you? #another coincidence
 

Gorlak

Banned
The benefit of keeping my lie to surprise you with my disappearing after I punished everyone alive isn't worth it. Sorry I should've been upfront completely.
I only admit to this because I probably won't achieve it anyway. I know this puts me in a bad light, but I don't have any other choice, I didn't expect it to be highlighted right away.
 

Gorlak

Banned
I still have the ring, and I'm attaching still dying on N2.

Why do you still have the ring? What about "I'll help town"? What was your action last night?

Excuse me, everybody.

Would you kindly say here if you are present?

Spill the beans, do you think it's fun to keep everyone waiting? If you have my alignment drop the info. If you have ANYTHING useful HELP us. It's so frustrating to play with you.

What are you waiting for?
 

SalvaPot

Member
I'm Sorian. Exactly like Sorian. The little tweek about having to survive should keep me alive longer, but you all doubt it anyway... should have gone with the real thing. Once I punished everyone alive, I'm done and out. This was to disguise the fact that I will at one point leave the game.



I have no idea how to paraphrase this, something like this:

"red flash of light struck me down
my magic stick flew out of my hand
incapable of performing my action"

(which makes no sense if one recalls that punish shouldn't require my wand but a bloodquill, I blame Salva and Nin)



There we have our stupefy victim... didn't Crab target you? #another coincidence

I am happy to see the thread is now french free.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Anyone here?

TheGoddamn
Blargonaut
Lord of Castamere
TheWorthyEdge

This thread is sleeping right now... People of Hogwarts who do you deem suspicious? I'm neutral and will be talked about today, but scum will easily use this opportunity to hide themselves. I tell you we have to look for scum! Give your oppinion on the current matters!

Who thinks LoC is free of suspicion? Is he cleared because of Crab or does it only confirm he doesn't have a horcrux? What do you think?

TheWorthyEdge didn't give Blarg the ring, even though he pledged to help town and he isn't affected by switchers. So why did you not help TWE?

We are still waiting for information, but this shouldn't hold us from going after people. I for one feel confident on voting L_P, nobody claimed being targeted by Dementors N2, I think it is his passive ability. He does give me a general vibe of scumminess. All he does is summarizing the events of the day without offering much insight. It's exactly like his MGS scum play. Being "helpful" with overviews and keeping the head down.
Now TheGoddamn will tell us about his switching targets, but we have to keep in mind Miracle could have been the last to send the pm. Do you think there is enough evidence?
I may contradict myself here, but look at this:

#2382 - Votes for Hyper
#2400 - Demands everyone to vote Hyper, says there is enough time to change back?!? WTF? - 4 minutes to go, this is bullshit
#2405 - Votes Hyper again, for the new page - clearly to create a feeling of "more and more people switch", totally unnecessary from a town view of point

L_P is a very cautious and calm player, why would he go all-in for a bandwaggon of someone he didn't even think of as scum? I think this was an ultimate bussing concept! Nobody would ever be so eager to get his teammate lynched, right? Tell you what, I think scum realized this opportunity and now it looks like L_P is totally town with going after Hyper so strong.
His style of play is very odd. He adds a nice thought here and there, went hard after TheGoddamn (scum would be pushing to lynch a switcher) and was in favour of lynching TWE over LoC, before bussing Hyper.

And something I noticed while looking through his posts:

Nobody else claim. I have something I want to say first, but I won't have time to type it up until tonight or tomorrow morning (it's 6pm here).

In the meantime, bug Blarg.

He never said anything and nobody called him out on it! Here I am L_P, what was your big post about?

Vote: Lone_Prodigy
 

roytheone

Member
But I don't remember it to be red? (At least in the movies?)

Since i have been watching the movies: it is blue I think. And sometimes orange. And another time there is nothing and a wand just goes flying with a funny "poink" sound effect. It's kind of inconsistent.

Anyway, I do believe Gorlak his re visioned win condition, it is not as insanely impossible as the original. I also believe him that he is currently acting in favor of town. However, I also believe that he has a survivor alternative win condition, and that while he is pro town right now, if switching sides is beneficial for him he will not hesitate to do that. I see no harm in keeping him around for now, especially with crab also potentially dying if Gorlak eats it, but if we are nearing the end of the game and he isn't close to his hand brand win condition, we WILL have to take him out before we get to close to lylo/mylo, since keeping a survivor neutral around in those situations is INCREDIBLY dangerous and INCREDIBLY stupid. Just look at Sorian in NX for an example.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Since i have been watching the movies: it is blue I think. And sometimes orange. And another time there is nothing and a wand just goes flying with a funny "poink" sound effect. It's kind of inconsistent.

Yeah, and I found a pic of the last duell with V where the spell is indeed red:
latest

This could be just to have the cool contrast of red/green, don't know how it was in the books. Or if it was affected by the wand shizzle (Elder Wand being Harry's but used by V). Very much flavour, maybe BSP wants to chime in, since she almost only refers to flavour in her few posts.

Roy since you want to keep me around, how would you utilize my ability? With switching at play, it's hard to approve of a target in public.
 

roytheone

Member
Anyone here?

TheGoddamn
Blargonaut
Lord of Castamere
TheWorthyEdge

This thread is sleeping right now... People of Hogwarts who do you deem suspicious? I'm neutral and will be talked about today, but scum will easily use this opportunity to hide themselves. I tell you we have to look for scum! Give your oppinion on the current matters!

Who thinks LoC is free of suspicion? Is he cleared because of Crab or does it only confirm he doesn't have a horcrux? What do you think?

TheWorthyEdge didn't give Blarg the ring, even though he pledged to help town and he isn't affected by switchers. So why did you not help TWE?

We are still waiting for information, but this shouldn't hold us from going after people. I for one feel confident on voting L_P, nobody claimed being targeted by Dementors N2, I think it is his passive ability. He does give me a general vibe of scumminess. All he does is summarizing the events of the day without offering much insight. It's exactly like his MGS scum play. Being "helpful" with overviews and keeping the head down.
Now TheGoddamn will tell us about his switching targets, but we have to keep in mind Miracle could have been the last to send the pm. Do you think there is enough evidence?
I may contradict myself here, but look at this:

#2382 - Votes for Hyper
#2400 - Demands everyone to vote Hyper, says there is enough time to change back?!? WTF? - 4 minutes to go, this is bullshit
#2405 - Votes Hyper again, for the new page - clearly to create a feeling of "more and more people switch", totally unnecessary from a town view of point

L_P is a very cautious and calm player, why would he go all-in for a bandwaggon of someone he didn't even think of as scum? I think this was an ultimate bussing concept! Nobody would ever be so eager to get his teammate lynched, right? Tell you what, I think scum realized this opportunity and now it looks like L_P is totally town with going after Hyper so strong.
His style of play is very odd. He adds a nice thought here and there, went hard after TheGoddamn (scum would be pushing to lynch a switcher) and was in favour of lynching TWE over LoC, before bussing Hyper.

And something I noticed while looking through his posts:



He never said anything and nobody called him out on it! Here I am L_P, what was your big post about?

Vote: Lone_Prodigy

First of all, no, i don't think LoC is free of suspicion. I am not yet convinced Crab is speaking the truth with his role claim, and even if he does it reads like he himself doesn't fully understands how his role works exactly, so it would be kind of dumb to see LoC as cleared just because of this.

About L_P having dementors as some kind of passive ability: there isn't really any convincing evidence for that IMO. Yeah, you got role blocked by dementors when targeting him, but Rynam claims to also be blocked by dementors N3, and he targeted blarg. I guess it is possible that Goddamn switched Blarg with L_P, the goddamn can probably tell us more about this (but that would probably also caused Goddamn to be blocked by dementors, so it is unlikely).

My top suspicion is still Retroid. Since my last explanation why I suspect him, he said some things about trusting TWE so that's why he was still voting on him, then said he realized TWE no longer wanted to be voted on but still kept his vote on TWE. So I want an explanation for that, why did you kept your vote on TWE even after you realized he no longer wanted that? Did you no longer trusted him? Also, he claimed to have been role blocked during N2 but didn't tell us the flavor text, so that is also something he still has to tell us.

VOTE: Retroid

Roy since you want to keep me around, how would you utilize my ability? With switching at play, it's hard to approve of a target in public.

Hmm, we will have to think about this. With a scum switcher probably in play, it would indeed be kind of dangerous to publicly announce your target, scum could misuse that and our other known PR will be focused on the blarg tank. Probably be best that for now you just target people you think aren't a PR or are scum on your own accord, since it will be pretty easy for us to check if your night actions are pro-town or not.
 
So uh, if anyone was wondering, I was not switched or poisoned. I don't think I should be expecting that stuff anyway considering no Death Eaters see me as a threat probably.
 

Gorlak

Banned
About L_P having dementors as some kind of passive ability: there isn't really any convincing evidence for that IMO. Yeah, you got role blocked by dementors when targeting him, but Rynam claims to also be blocked by dementors N3, and he targeted blarg. I guess it is possible that Goddamn switched Blarg with L_P, the goddamn can probably tell us more about this (but that would probably also caused Goddamn to be blocked by dementors, so it is unlikely).

That is a very good point. Passive block would most likely refer to any action, i.e. even switching? Yeah, don't know how else it should work, but I still would like some more thoughts on this from everyone!
 
I have no idea how to paraphrase this, something like this:

"red flash of light struck me down
my magic stick flew out of my hand
incapable of performing my action"

(which makes no sense if one recalls that punish shouldn't require my wand but a bloodquill, I blame Salva and Nin)

k

Spill the beans, do you think it's fun to keep everyone waiting? If you have my alignment drop the info. If you have ANYTHING useful HELP us. It's so frustrating to play with you.

What are you waiting for?

First light on the fifth Day
 

Gorlak

Banned
Hey, if Dementors are an active ability Blarg is going to be unprotected tonight. Last Night it makes more sense to block Rynam, because of two switchers. Now only TheG is left, he'll be blocked and the tank goes down.

Blarg we need to discuss now!
 
This could be just to have the cool contrast of red/green, don't know how it was in the books. Or if it was affected by the wand shizzle (Elder Wand being Harry's but used by V). Very much flavour, maybe BSP wants to chime in, since she almost only refers to flavour in her few posts.

Aweee look who's all into flavor now ^____^

"Both of them swung their wands above their heads and pointed them at their opponent; Snape cried: "Expelliarmus!" There was a dazzling flash of scarlet light and Lockhart was blasted off his feet..."

Quote from book 2. I guess it confirms that the spell that was used is Expelliarmus! I think KK made a point in his fake RC that E. is HPs "specialty". I would consider the possibility of a town aligned role blocker here.

I will be busy this weekend. Hope to have some time to follow the thread and give my opinion every now and then.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Hey, if Dementors are an active ability Blarg is going to be unprotected tonight. Last Night it makes more sense to block Rynam, because of two switchers. Now only TheG is left, he'll be blocked and the tank goes down.

Blarg we need to discuss now!

I'd say Blarg is safe tonight. Even if TheG is blocked, I don't think someone will target Blarg since Rynam still had another day to report. That is, unless Death Eaters are willing to do a 1 for 1 trade for Blarg.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
So...just one thing that's curious to me...why was Crab targeted by a switch last night? And why did he not get poisoned/killed? As an investigator, I would have thought he'd be a prime scum target.

Only town would have motivation to switch him, to keep him protected. So I'm going to assume town switched him. The question is, who was he switched with? Miracle might make sense for a few reasons:

1) We haven't heard from anyone else being switched other than Crab ("transported" flavour text)
2) Miracle is not a catastrophic loss. TheG can still make his switch at night.
3) Having Miracle killed validates his and TheG's claim.

Any other hypothesis? Have we heard from everyone yet? Perhaps the switchee has yet to come forward.
 
Who thinks LoC is free of suspicion? Is he cleared because of Crab or does it only confirm he doesn't have a horcrux? What do you think?

I think it's extremely likely that Crab's ability is for detecting Horcruxes (both due to the wording of his ability and due to lore), so it definitely does not clear Castamere. I'm willing to consider other suspects for today, considering that we've got new information (in addition to LoC's promised claim), but imo he's definitely still a decent candidate for a lynch.

As for your case on L_P, I'll need to think about it. I'd been getting wary of his frequent summary/explanation posts because they're the main thing that stuck out about him to me thus far, and they seemed like a solid way for a scum player to stay both visible and useful. I also have to admit though, they've been very helpful to me. I agree with Roy that Dementors being a passive ability isn't very likely.
 

roytheone

Member
I missed that too. So would someone please explain that!

Well, I think it really is only Gorlak that seriously brought up the possibility, and his main argument is that he targeted L_P on night one and got roleblocked. He is a bit jumping to conclusions and seeing connections that aren't necessarily there if you ask me.


So...just one thing that's curious to me...why was Crab targeted by a switch last night? And why did he not get poisoned/killed? As an investigator, I would have thought he'd be a prime scum target.

Only town would have motivation to switch him, to keep him protected. So I'm going to assume town switched him. The question is, who was he switched with? Miracle might make sense for a few reasons:

1) We haven't heard from anyone else being switched other than Crab ("transported" flavour text)
2) Miracle is not a catastrophic loss. TheG can still make his switch at night.
3) Having Miracle killed validates his and TheG's claim.

Any other hypothesis? Have we heard from everyone yet? Perhaps the switchee has yet to come forward.

Why would a town switcher switch crab and take the risk of losing Blarg? That is a very, very risky move IMO and I doubt one of the weasley's would risk that. I also seriously doubt we have two town aligned switchers (that can both switch at the same time). That leaves the option of a scum switcher, and I actually disagree only town had the motivation to switch him. I think Blarg still had a lot of suspicion towards Crab, even after his role claim, so if I was scum I would expect Blarg to investigate Crab this night. By switching Crab with one of their own they could frame him if Blarg indeed investigated him, and let us kill Crab ourselves while they could focus on trying to break down the Blarg tank.
 
I voted twice for Hyper because the voting script didn't pick it up the first time (I unvoted the same time and the highlight tags surrounded the entire post).

Didn't Gorlak say he targeted Christina N3 and also got blocked? But didn't Rynam say he was blocked as well?
 
Hey, if Dementors are an active ability Blarg is going to be unprotected tonight. Last Night it makes more sense to block Rynam, because of two switchers. Now only TheG is left, he'll be blocked and the tank goes down.

Blarg we need to discuss now!

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Oh, looks like that Tank unit is stuck...

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A Tank without ammo and fuel is a total paperweight! You'll need an APC unit to help get it back into the fight.

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According to our intel, APCs can resupply adjacent units every turn.

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An APC can also transport 1 Infantry or Mech. unit at a time, but be careful. If a transport is destroyed while carrying a unit, the unit inside the transport is lost too!

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You can build APCs at a Factory for 5000G each.

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And last I heard, you're an active-ability Roleblocker yourself, and not Town-aligned, to boot. Makes me pretty nervous, all else aside.
 
I'd say Blarg is safe tonight. Even if TheG is blocked, I don't think someone will target Blarg since Rynam still had another day to report. That is, unless Death Eaters are willing to do a 1 for 1 trade for Blarg.

Unless Rynam is Roleblocked too

We allegedly got the Roleblocker Dementor, Roleblocker Umbridge and Expelliarmus Red Roleblocker up in this Fog of War. That's a hella anti-Tank setup and I've barely rolled off the assembly line

Frankly, I'm leaning towards getting rid of Gorlak today, being in a cautiously self-preservative mood and all

But I'm still thinking
 
Of course, getting rid of Gorlak would entail losing Crab, allegedly

A tl;dr will be part of the next post.

In the following I deliver the naked truth, no more and no less.

Welcome to a new day in Hogwarts! I'm Dolores Umbridge, aligned with myself. Cops will get "Ministry of Magic" as my alignment. There is no word of a recruitment. I'm a roleblocker. Target Night 1 was Lone_prodigy, I got "distracted", the pm hints hard at Dementors (cold, reliving bad memories, losing joy). Night 2 I targeted roy. Night 3 I went with Christina Mackenzie, I got blocked again. I'm warned about people who might punish me back.
My goal is to survive till the end while punishing everyone. I have to punish every night. The flavour says I'm a bureaucrat, former undersecratary and former short time professor at Hogwarts. By now I only appreciate to keep order anymore. I won't accept bad behaviour, therefore I punish people. A horcrux is not in my possession. There is no word of their existance in my role pm at all. Neither is the existance of Filch mentioned in my role.
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Day 2 was a good day, everything went smoothly, I enjoyed myself and we even managed to get rid of kingkitty. I had the feeling I could achieve my win condition, but no... Stupefy and Crab happened. I suspected him to be scum strongly, because I got crucioed Night 2. This means scum knew my name at the beginning of Day 3. I could not talk about this, because I would've been lynched right away as many pointed out. Actually LoC, L_P and Crab were the candidates who gave themselves away with certain posts (see my read list: #2088). Flame_AC was on the list to inflate my read list (and a former gut feeling). I didn't put Crab on scum suspects because he was keen to jump at any opportunity to stab me. I was weakened, he obviously knew my role and was scum in my eyes (at that time). The general mood was in favour for him, there was no way I could lead a lynch against him. So Crab crashed into the game and swayed every opinion in his favour.

Just a quick reminder: He visited the N1 victim, he claimed being switched without any supporting evidence, put a vote on me without reasoning and nobody cared. He threatened to reveal his PR and actually did just to save 1 townie all the while he could still not be sure about LoC at all as he said. Moreover he "played bad" (his own words) by revealing my name.
All in all he did his best to subtly influence the general views, he basically joined the game yesterday and posted more than anybody (~100posts), the switcher mess was a very thankfull opportunity to make yourself look like town for anybody. He was scum #1 for me, but his claim changed this.

Of course I'm a salty he outed me, because if he is telling the truth, he is clearly in the game to help me, not get me lynched. Anyway, back to my D3 suspects:

LoC (#1580)
He did not mention me once before this post. And the day I got crucioed and stupefied, he draws suspicion towards me before I even show up and reveal my situation. That's why I voted him. He could still be scum, just without any "presence of dark magic" as Crab said aka No power or horcrux?

L_P (#1965)
He offered several of those overviews, but in here he made the important slip! Blarg talked about being tortured Day2, I only talked about being stupefied. The torture clearly refers to the Crucio curse, only scum would knew I experienced the same spells as Blarg.

Crab (#1682)
He calls it "interrogated", which again would rather fit the bill of Crucio than Stupify. Also as I said above, he obviously knew I'm Umbridge, which is why he was the most suspicious one to me. If you look closer at the last day, you'll see various hints from him, that he knows about me, which can be true by his claim. The neutral classification was a subtle hint at my own alignment.

Let's set this aside for the moment and come back to my role. From a flavour perspective BSP can surely provide an overview about how Umbridge is NOT a death eater. She is a very shady and disgusting person, but not a killer. She was always only interested about herself and how she could maintain her position & power. If you want to, look here: Wiki - Umbridge. I'm a true neutral and do not interfere with the win condition of Town or Scum.
Scum had already the task to find "V", it's unlikely they have more people to find. How would this recruiting take place? Tattoo the Dark Mark? Umbridge never had one, Malfoy would fit this far better, but even he wouldn't be scum. If Crab is indeed Argus Filch, why would he know about me if I can become scum? 1:1 tradeoff because start the game with someone knowing scum - is fun? I doubt it. Balancing wise this makes no sense. His role would be to support the neutral to survive himself not to out him...

Some breadcrumbs:

- one post I directly referred to my alignment. Scum already knew my role, so I wanted to signal I'm not their enemy. All was written with the intention to survive the night! How should I make clear I'm neutral and not to be killed without giving away my role for everybody? I intended to show them I can support them indirectly (by blocking town) as a neutral (still Ministry of Magic even with V at charge).
Of course this was a lie, I can only survive by playing for town as we all know! If we find a way to choose a roleblock target, I'll be up for it, but we still have a scum switcher at work.

- Because I'm Umbridge and I have none, I honestly thought there are no such things in the game.

#1234 - No secret win condition because I got no horcrux.



Another hint that I do not have the Locket (I had to pack the info into some kind of fluff speculation, that's why there are more Cruxes named)

1869 - This was Day 3, even though I got blocked Night1. I thought somebody could react to this now! That's why I was keen on TWE and Retroid to talk about roleblock flavour.

#1306 - Ministry of Magic = Neutral

#2428
I'm not recruitable, this was purely speculation by Crab:

As stated above my understanding of good game balancing does not support the idea that one townie knows at the beginning about one scum member.

I knew I would have to come clear rather quickly in the game and did everything I could to survive. On the one hand I tried to signal I'm neutral and have no idea about the horcruxes, so Scum would not kill me. On the other hand I tried to help town as good as I could. I was aggressive and took hard stances to create discussions and find scum. Okay, I have to admit one thing: For the laughs I asked Roy about the spider picture, because I was the only one knowing he spoke the truth about no restrictions on him.

That is all. My faith lies in your hands people of Hogwarts. I'm a true neutral and lynching me will not help you in your chase of the Death Eaters. However my ability to block, can be helpful to your cause! Keep in mind if crab is still alive, he'll die with me according to his claim. Losing two people without getting any closer to scum would be bad for town.
The same goes for scum though, if they kill me, they waste one night to eliminate a neutral survivor.

PS: lol @miracle's theory, it was nice to read how you were not confident about your own thoughts #1774

TL;DR:

I'm Umbridge.
True Neutral (aligned with myself, show up as MoM)
Not recruitable
No horcrux
No mention of Filch

Lynching me will lead to the death of Crab. Killing me will only help the other side (I'm not a part of Hogwarts or Death Eaters, your win conditions both do not count me in)

I find it strange that you state that your Role PM has no mention of Filch/Crab, and yet you seem to be rather confident in that your lynching will simultaneously result in Crab's death.

You state that you're a Roleblocker.

What flavour text did you receive regarding having been Roleblocked during N3?

And did you successfully Punish Lone_Prodigy?
 
Gorlak has a good point about L_P. If Blarg was switched with L_P, then I'd say he's a strong lynch candidate.

Until then, this seems like the best course of action to me. Lynch Gorlak...he is certainly hiding things about his role, and killing him will make it clear whether or not Crab is lying. If Crab doesn't die, we lynch him tomorrow. Worst case scenario: we kill a neutral today. Best case scenario: we kill a neutral today and scum tomorrow. One and done.

Vote: Gorlak

yep
 
Why would a town switcher switch crab and take the risk of losing Blarg? That is a very, very risky move IMO and I doubt one of the weasley's would risk that. I also seriously doubt we have two town aligned switchers (that can both switch at the same time). That leaves the option of a scum switcher, and I actually disagree only town had the motivation to switch him. I think Blarg still had a lot of suspicion towards Crab, even after his role claim, so if I was scum I would expect Blarg to investigate Crab this night. By switching Crab with one of their own they could frame him if Blarg indeed investigated him, and let us kill Crab ourselves while they could focus on trying to break down the Blarg tank.

I didn't investigate Crab last Night
 
I kept it.

I thought Blarg wanted me to be his decoy? Plus, it's gonna be destroyed on the same night if I sold it to him last night. Didn't see the point especially if Blarg had the chance of dying. Then idk what would've happened.
 
Painfully, I agree with you here. At least temporarily, I think we benefit from keeping Gorlak around. For the moment we can threaten to lynch him if he doesn't use his Night Action to obey us. I'd like someone like Blarg to investigate him for us to see if it turns up anything different, but if Gorlak's role is survivor and nin and salva are just really mean, then he can win with us and indeed help us. The longer he's around, the longer I'm around too, which is obviously good because I am town's best player. #TownLeader

VOTE: Gorlak
 
I kept it.

I thought Blarg wanted me to be his decoy? Plus, it's gonna be destroyed on the same night if I sold it to him last night. Didn't see the point especially if Blarg had the chance of dying. Then idk what would've happened.

Remember, as long as you keep it, you're basically immortal
 

Kalor

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I don't know about lynching Gorlak today. We should only lynch him if we don't have another target by the end of the day. We're at a point where we are going to have two night kills from now on now that the poisoner has a buffer of kills set up so I don't know if I want to potentially end up lynching two people today, if Crab is telling the truth.

Remember, as long as you keep it, you're basically immortal

Do you want to expand on this?
 
Retroid?

retroid is weird. I mentioned this yesterday when talking about him- it feels like scum would deliberately avoid some of things he does, it feels almost too obvious, actually makes me think he's more town

ofc, I don't know if it's a good idea to just trust him to be town because he made some weird plays, we should come back to that later. But for now I'm surprised this bandwagon is tied and in the lead with the TWE one, seems rather abrupt

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