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Harry Potter [Mafia] |OT| “Yer a werewolf, ‘Arry”

Kawl_USC

Member
2 millers, speech restrictions, alternative win conditions(?) in horcruxes...I'm never signing up for something above a 4 again...
 
ANOTHER NIGHT ANOTHER HOGWARTS BRAT DEAD
ANOTHER NIGHT ANOTHER HOGWARTS BRAT DEAD
ANOTHER NIGHT ANOTHER HOGWARTS BRAT DEAD
ANOTHER NIGHT ANOTHER HOGWARTS BRAT DEAD

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Flame_AC

Member
Vote: Lone_Prodigy

I believe Blarg, there is no reason not to.

If L_P is miller then that is just unfortunate, I'll keep my vote on him unless something can without a doubt prove L_P's role. Same argument as I had when Burb was the topic of conversation, either he is lynched and we know more facts, or he sticks around as an oddity in the back of our minds each day.
 
Vote: Lone_Prodigy

I believe Blarg, there is no reason not to.

If L_P is miller then that is just unfortunate, I'll keep my vote on him unless something can without a doubt prove L_P's role. Same argument as I had when Burb was the topic of conversation, either he is lynched and we know more facts, or he sticks around as an oddity in the back of our minds each day.

It seems like you have an obsession with Millers in this game. Are they always inherently suspicious to you? You kept your vote on Burb until he was night-killed (N2 I think?), and lookie there, he was a legit Town Miller. What reasoning do you have for voting L_P the same way?
 
Burb situation is different. That was Day 1 and we had no leads or reads. It's now Day 5 and we have a lot of voting patterns, claims, and flips.

I kind of understand the vote on Lord of Castamere. He is the only evidence we have of a second killer. If you can only kill on alternate nights why would you not kill on Night 1 at the earliest opportunity? And why keep targeting Blarg and the tank? A neutral second killer would shoot randomly. A vigilante would hit the unclaimed.
 
so, uh


huh




well


Remember, pupils: don't ever make a Bad habit of leaving homework for later

UNVOTE: Lord of Castamere

VOTE: Lord of Castamere

▶




yep, I learned that the hard way










brb dying alone in front of my reads list
 
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So is this a Hogwarts, Neutral or Death Eater ability? I don't believe anyone has come up with any theories as to what it does. No one seems interested in pursuing it either. Is it really alright to just leave it be?
 
CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Lone_Prodigy (3)
TheExodu5 .3041
Christina Mackenzie .3063
Blargonaut .3172 .3185
Blargonaut .3185 .3197
TheAwesomePossum .3189 .3198
Flame_AC .3204

Blargonaut (2)
Kawl_USC .3086
Crab .3087

Lord of Castamere (1)
Blargonaut .3197 .3208
Blargonaut .3208

TheAwesomePossum (0)
Blargonaut .3143 .3166
Lone_Prodigy .3165 .3199


No active vote for Day 5:
Bananaspaceprincess
Enker
flatearthpandas
Gorlak
Kalor
Lone_Prodigy (has previously voted)
Lord of Castamere
MagnumBoy20xx
Matt Attack
roytheone
Rynam
TheAwesomePossum (has previously voted)



Day 5 ends:
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Gorlak

Banned
So is this a Hogwarts, Neutral or Death Eater ability? I don't believe anyone has come up with any theories as to what it does. No one seems interested in pursuing it either. Is it really alright to just leave it be?

How about you don't deflect and start answering the questions you were asked?
 

roytheone

Member
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So is this a Hogwarts, Neutral or Death Eater ability? I don't believe anyone has come up with any theories as to what it does. No one seems interested in pursuing it either. Is it really alright to just leave it be?

Well, there was some discussion on day 2 when the tabloid had some things in it that were relevant to the discussion that was going on. But the following day the tabloid seemed less linked with active discussions, and yesterday it even was focused on two characters that I think weren't even mentioned in this game up until that point. We can talk and speculate about it, but I doubt we will get very far. Maybe we can discuss it again today when it pops up if we don't have any other important things to discuss, but it doesn't have a high priority IMO.

Also, I will mirror what Gorlak said and ask you to answer our questions about your "action" at the end of day 4. Was it a real power, or not?
 

Gorlak

Banned
What do we have today?

TWE and TheG dead
Kalor punished (me)
Kawl poisoned
Crab stupified
Rynam blocked (Dementor)
L_P investigated (result: Death Eater)
L_P claims miller

Tonight probably: Rynam dies from poison, LoC gets blocked, Blarg dies. It's starting to look really bad for us.

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History:
Day 1 begins , Night 1 begins
Day 2 begins , Night 2 begins
Day 3 begins , Night 3 begins
Day 4 begins , Night 4 begins
Day 5 begins

Rats Off To Ya D1
Swamped N1
kingkitty D2
Burbeting N2
Hyperactivity D3
Sawneeks N3
Zippedpinhead/Miracle N3
Retroid D4
TheWorthyEdge N4
TheGoddamn N4

N5 Rynam
N6 Kawl_USC

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That leaves us with 16 players considerable:
Claimed:
Blargonaut (Albus)
Crab (Filch)
Gorlak (Umbridge)
Lord of Castamere (Dobby)
Christina Mackenzie (soft claimed Ron/Hermoine, could be ordinary who made up last minute gambit)
TheAwesomePossum (ordinary)
Lone_Prodigy (Sirius, Miller)

No claim:
bananaspaceprincess
Enker
Flame_AC
flatearthpandas
Kalor
MagnumBoy20xx
Matt Attack
roytheone
TheExodu5
 

Gorlak

Banned
1) Daily Prophet
The Daily Prophet shenanigans is simply unimportant at the moment. The person who publishes them is not going to speak up and everyone else has no clue about it. There seems to be no direct involvement to the game.
But what if...? HA! I think I figured it out now. What if their win condition is to get people to speak about it? Get a high circulation? That's anything a journalist would really want, be the hot topic, get high print numbers... The person has to reach x-number of posts with the term Daily Prophet in it! Rita would be MoM aligned and neutral as well. This feels like a plausible explanation.

2) Stupefy
We should be wary of the people who get stupefied now. Scum established it as their power and now we could fall into the trap of thinking anyone who got stupefied is town (wifom material).

3) Christina Mackenzie
You have to state the intention of your decypher post, for me it looks like you wanted to create confusion and get people of Retroid. I had no reason to believe you and some bullshit crazy riddle wasn't convince me to get off of Retroid. Especially if you pull this sutff in the last few minutes! I hate late gambits because people won't have enough time to think logical. So that wasn't exactly very townie, if you had reason to believe Retroid wasn't scum, why didn't you bring up more evidence earlier? The way you and Lone_Prodigy tried to change the bandwaggon struck me as suspicious. And Retroid's flip does in no way liften the suspicion I have on both of you right now. Scum would try to fight for a townie and get Possum lynched if both targets were town to begin with.

4) Horcruxes
Retroid clearly revealed to us, that the secret win condition is secret because it doesn't apply to town! There are certain members (Harry, Albus, probably Ron+Hermoine) who win if the Horcruxes are destroyed.

5) Crab
How does your role action play together with Retroid's reveal? Upon destruction, do you leave the game as well? Filch isn't exactly known as horcrux hunter. Was there any word of another win condition? (maybe I have asked before, but I can't remember)

6) Lone_Prodigy
Well... Miller? And night kill immune if you wish? Sounds like a combination of Rats and Burb. Do you really believe we will buy this? I'm telling everyone you are scum since two days ago and you stumpled a few times but managed to shrug it off. I'll give a detailed post with reasoning later, but for now:

Vote: Lone_Prodigy
 

roytheone

Member
Top town (outside of the blarg tank):

Kawl_usc: He has been very active, trying to push conversation forward and mostly making smart remarks. Him getting poisoned pretty much confirms him being town for me.

Flame_AC: This is mostly because he was very quick to follow sawneeks with her hyper vote. It was a very hectic situation and I doubt a scum would vote for one of their own with the risk of creating a bandwagon out of nowhere. This was also before Sawneeks claimed to have a role power that pointed to Hyper being scum.

MagnumBoy20xx:His activity is a bit on the low side, but when he posts it is mostly good. What pushed me over to thinking he is town was his big post making a case for BSP. If he was scum, I would think he would be OK with the way it was going towards a Retroid lynch, so there wasn't really any reason for him to try and find a better lynch target, especially not for him doing it so out in the open and obvious, if he was scum.

Top scum:

Crab: While he is extremely active, him visiting Swamped N1 is still a coincidence that feels a bit weird to me. Him keep getting switched with a type of flavor that only he has seen is also weird, as is him outing himself to safe LoC. But what really put him in the "scum" category for me is the fact that he claims that Gorlak can (probably) be recruited by scum. That is already weird onto itself since having two recruitable in one game is a bit of a stretch, but if he speaks the truth Gorlak is now probably a full fledged scum that has a role block. That is incredibly dangerous for us yet he doesn't seem to be too concerned with getting rid of Gorlak, even though he is the one that should be the MOST concerned since he "assumes" Gorlak can be recruited.

LoC: Still suspicious of him. Him wanting to lynch Burb even after believing he was speaking the truth, making that mistake with sawneeks being poisoned, bringing up the lynch protection of kitty, Calling Exodu5 obvious scum with no reasoning, that pretyped post, being "saved" by Crab on day 3, and his role claim points to a second killer we literally haven't seen any other hint off.

Lone_prodigy:Really, claiming miller when you get outed by the cop as scum is incredibly scummy to me. If it is the truth he also now made his power completely useless since no scum would ever target him at night. I also think his Christina is Harry potter theory was kind of out of nowhere and a huge jump of logic. He was one of the more active people trying to swing the vote from Retroid to possum in the last minutes, but if both of them turn out to be town that could easily be just a show to try and win towny points for himself, while also creating chaos scum can use to try and incriminate people that didn't switch.

For now I will go:

VOTE: Lord of Castamere

There are a lot of things that make me feel bad about him, and if he does indeed turn out to be scum that will makes me more convinced of Crab also being scum.
 
Hello everyone :)

just finished catching up. You will get a reads list from me later but for now I will comment on what I think is standing out the most right now.

Blarg claims L_P is scum, and L_P claims to be Sirius Black, yet another Miller. How convenient.

"But Burb is a Miller with cool powers."

Yeah, but I'm just Sirius. I can transform into a dog and become immune to all night actions against me, but that's it. It's not infinite. Obviously I didn't use it last night.

Look back at my posts. I went on Hyper early. I tried to save Retroid.

With all the dead people we had so far I think we learned that most roles have more about them than just one use. And now, such a self centered, cowardly-power is supposed to be the power of Sirius Black??? That doesn't make sense to me at all. (If anything, this role power would fit a Peter Pettigrew character much better and I also would say there is more to his role!!)

Yes, Lore-Specialist BSB reports for duty ;)

Before book 3, it was believed that Sirius was in fact a death eater. But he was cleared from book 3 on. Dumbledore also new about Sirius' true alignment so if he knows the true identity of Snape (which he did) I really think he would have seen L_Ps true alignment as well. But in fact Blarg did see him as scum!!!

Additionally L_Ps reasoning seems very weak.
Notice how quickly I voted for TheGoddamn? It's because he claimed Sirius, and I thought I had caught scum in a lie.

I don't really like it when people bread crumb there role in early posts but that would have probably convinced me more than what L_P was trying here. I think a lot of people could argue like that. It's just not really solid and does not convince me at all.

And I also don't know why everybody was backing up so easy after he posted it...

I have no doubt there is actually a Sirius in the game. It was a ballsy role claim by thegoddamn. Two millers though? Lore-wise, it does fit better for Sirius than for Snape

Could you please explain how Sirius makes more sense as a Miller than Snape?? Especially after we already have a confirmed Burb/Snape Miller?

My vote goes to
Vote: Lone_Prodigy
 
Could you please explain how Sirius makes more sense as a Miller than Snape?? Especially after we already have a confirmed Burb/Snape Miller?
My lore for the end of the series is poor because i thought they were bad and never revisited them. But from what I remember everyone except Harry and co. pretty much always trusted Snape. Especially while Dumbledore was alive.

Black was actually convicted as a death eater and was an escaped convict. Almost everyone spent some time suspecting him. Plus, a miller shows scum but the real scum know he isn't one of them. The death eaters knew black was framed and wasn't one of them even while he was in prison. They always thought Snape was one of them even though no one else did. He was a double agent.

Correct my lore if I'm mistaken. Doesn't really pertain to the game. Game-wise, two millers seems dodgy but possible. I'm sure we'll be hearing plenty of miller claims as the days roll on so we have to naturally be suspicious. Burb was right to claim it early imo.
 

Flame_AC

Member
It seems like you have an obsession with Millers in this game. Are they always inherently suspicious to you? You kept your vote on Burb until he was night-killed (N2 I think?), and lookie there, he was a legit Town Miller. What reasoning do you have for voting L_P the same way?

Millers are something which can only serve to hurt town, they serve no benefit to us other than their vote. I wouldn't want to keep around someone who when checked is a Death Eater as that is something that will always be a distraction. I don't believe any claim in the game 100%, certainly not a miller claim after an investigation revealed scum. If L_P isn't scum, then that's too bad and we'll try again tomorrow.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Okay, time to tell you all the truth!

I'm a Miller! In fact I'm Draco Malfoy!

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The boy who made all the wrong choices. Growing up with parents as I have, how could I ever turn out differently? Arrogant and hate-worthy, I even joined the Death Eaters (hence the miller role) , but in the end I wasn't one of them. I couldn't face the horror of killing Dumbledore! Yeah he believed in me, always. Only he will see my true alignment and can confirm I'm still with Hogwarts.

Btw I'm a werewolf as well, you surely have heard the rumours. Every other night I'm night kill immune.

There you have it, another miller claim. Do I have to show any breadcrumbs? Just look at my avatar, you dummies!

/s
 
okay


so


It has been brought to my attention by, uh


re-reading my Role PM my superior deduction skills




That Lone_Prodigy is, in fact, a 100% genuine Miller

He is actually, honestly, totally Sirius Black the x-shot Godmodog and he's telling the truth

for serious


so

If, uh, anyone should choose to vote against him after this point in time, that one shall be hella guilty-by-what's the word incompetence insubordination insubordination



Please direct your angst towards other targets Today.


TY for your cooperation and understanding

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stand by for unprecedented superweapon
 

Gorlak

Banned
Blarg, whatever you just said, I don't understand it.

Meanwhile we have 6 out of 9 required votes for a majority on Lone_Prodigy. We shouldn't turbo until everyone had a chance to state his opinion. Afterwards I'm all in to end the day early, we got nothing out of running the kingkitty day to the end, if I recall it right.
 

Gorlak

Banned
@Rynam: Who did you try to watch last night?

@Blarg: Did you receive the ring last night? It's almost certain you'll die tonight, will you destroy it beforehand? Also would you kindly explain the horcrux stuff to us? You lied about winning with town as we can see from Retroid's post.
 
Hello everyone :)

just finished catching up. You will get a reads list from me later but for now I will comment on what I think is standing out the most right now.

Blarg claims L_P is scum, and L_P claims to be Sirius Black, yet another Miller. How convenient.

Forget about lore for the moment, is there anything about L_P that makes you think he's lying?

You have to admit the speed at which he backed up his claim was very quick.. like it has been planned out. Is there another Sirius Black out there who should role claim?

It's unlikely there are 2 millers in this game but there were 2 armorers in the Star Wars game.
 
@Blarg: Did you receive the ring last night? It's almost certain you'll die tonight, will you destroy it beforehand? Also would you kindly explain the horcrux stuff to us? You lied about winning with town as we can see from Retroid's post.

?

I've already explained the whole Horcrux deal, and no, I haven't lied about anything Horcrux, nor about the attached secondary Win condition. Why would I win separately from Town? I am the Town. Frankly, your theory doesn't make sense, k

REDACTED is on a need-to-know basis, and I've told ya what y'need to know
 
AGAIN—

DO NOT VOTE OUT LONE_PRODIGY.

IF ANY OF YOU AID IN HAMMERING OR TURBOING HIM, YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

HE IS A REAL MILLER.
 
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I've already explained the whole Horcrux deal, and no, I haven't lied about anything Horcrux, nor about the attached secondary Win condition. Why would I win separately from Town? I am the Town. Frankly, your theory doesn't make sense, k

REDACTED is on a need-to-know basis, and I've told ya what y'need to know

Did TheGoddamn switch you last night? Are you sure about Lord of Castamere this time? He claims to have saved you twice. Whether you were switched or not could be telling.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Also, the horcrux win condition is worded in a way that might mean it does not apply to all of town. I do have the regular win condition. I asked for clarification on this from nin last night but haven't received a reply yet.

The win condition says, you also, not hogwarts also...

Retroid was speaking the truth, he had no reason to lie and just wanted to save himself! Blarg, YOU ARE LYING! "Need to know" basis, yeah... you'll win without the rest of town and run away from the remaining death eaters.
What does everyone else think? A non-issue right now? I find it quite interesting you all don't care...

Also I fucking HATE your capslock posts in which you repeat a trillion times the same thing over and over again.

If you want 6 people to change their vote, why don't you offer something concrete? You've shown to be capable of stupid reads, besides your action based kingkitty delivery, you have done nothing all game. Why should anyone trust in your deductions?
 
Did TheGoddamn switch you last night? Are you sure about Lord of Castamere this time? He claims to have saved you twice. Whether you were switched or not could be telling.

? My pms don't tell me who I saved. The only reason I get them is because of the bodyguard mechanic. I targeted Blarg on N2/4 and stopped a kill both times. I've never said that I was told Blarg was explicitly saved, because frankly I don't know. I have no idea where my role stands on the CoC.
 
Did TheGoddamn switch you last night? Are you sure about Lord of Castamere this time? He claims to have saved you twice. Whether you were switched or not could be telling.

I was indeed switched/pranked last Night, and I assume it was TheGoddamn's final action. I may need to rethink my previous flavour attribution too, after reading the flavour text.

I'm still pondering Mr. Castamere. If I recall correctly, both of the Nights he claimed to have protected me from attack, both the PM's stated that I was switched via "feet left feet" prank. Which leads me to believe that he didn't actually protect me from anything. I dunno, still processing it, but my suspicion is growing.
 
Ok, who did you target N1 and N3?

Hyperactivty, and TheWorthyEdge, respectively.

I was indeed switched/pranked last Night, and I assume it was TheGoddamn's final action. I may need to rethink my previous flavour attribution too, after reading the flavour text.

I'm still pondering Mr. Castamere. If I recall correctly, both of the Nights he claimed to have protected me from attack, both the PM's stated that I was switched via "feet left feet" prank. Which leads me to believe that he didn't actually protect me from anything. I dunno, still processing it, but my suspicion is growing.

Again, I think this is just a misunderstanding. I can't see who I saved. I only know who I targeted, and whether it was successful or not.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Blarg, care to explain why he is 100% a Miller? I had my suspicions prior to your investigation, so I'm not willing to drop my vote so easily.

That being said, he defended himself rather quickly and his supporting the evidence seems plausible, so either he is actually a Miller or he already had this claim planned.
 

Kalor

Member
So, I believe L_P as they haven't read as scum to me so far. If you were going to fake claim why would you use the same role name that someone else used to fake a claim earlier in the game.

So that I have a vote

Vote: Lord of Castamere

I need to go reread the posts of some people so I'll likely move my vote at some point. I want to look at the people who haven't claimed anything yet as scum are likely within that group.
 

Gorlak

Banned
So, I believe L_P as they haven't read as scum to me so far. If you were going to fake claim why would you use the same role name that someone else used to fake a claim earlier in the game.

Sirius being the fake claim provided for scum didn't cross your mind? A miller as fake claim to counter an investigation? In this case scum knew TheG was lying, but they happily waited (or even actively tried to "solve" this puzzle) until all town PR claimed back then.
 

Kalor

Member
Sirius being the fake claim provided for scum didn't cross your mind? A miller as fake claim to counter an investigation? In this case scum knew TheG was lying, but they happily waited (or even actively tried to "solve" this puzzle) until all town PR claimed back then.

That's a possibility but I assumed that we would have a Sirius role, although I probably shouldn't be making assumptions like that. I'm happy to believe them for now because their past behaviour hasn't made them suspicious in my eyes.
 
Retroid was speaking the truth, he had no reason to lie and just wanted to save himself! Blarg, YOU ARE LYING! "Need to know" basis, yeah... you'll win without the rest of town and run away from the remaining death eaters.
What does everyone else think? A non-issue right now? I find it quite interesting you all don't care...

Also I fucking HATE your capslock posts in which you repeat a trillion times the same thing over and over again.

If you want 6 people to change their vote, why don't you offer something concrete? You've shown to be capable of stupid reads, besides your action based kingkitty delivery, you have done nothing all game. Why should anyone trust in your deductions?

  1. Are you actually serious? Do you actually believe that Albus Dumbledore, Headmaster of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, 's Win condition is to secretly fuck off his castle in complete solitude after NOT ONLY killing V and destroying the Horcruxes as a secondary, but as a primary instead of winning with Town?
  2. Because it wasn't actually a deduction. You want "concrete"? It was a misunderstanding on my part of the capability of my LEGEREMENS investigation ability, which was rectified (relatively) soon after a quick query to our gracious host(s). I re-read not only my Role PM, but every results and after-action report PM I have received thus far, and I realized that there was a discrepancy between the wording of the results PM I had received when I scouted out kingkitty, and the results PM after scouting Lone_Prodigy. A discrepancy that has led me to this conclusion that EVERYONE SHOULD BACK THE FUCK OFF FROM VOTING OUT LONE_PRODIGY*

    *until further notice
  3. SPITE CAPS
 

Gorlak

Banned
  1. Are you actually serious? Do you actually believe that Albus Dumbledore, Headmaster of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, 's Win condition is to secretly fuck off his castle in complete solitude after NOT ONLY killing V and destroying the Horcruxes as a secondary, but as a primary instead of winning with Town?
  2. Because it wasn't actually a deduction. You want "concrete"? It was a misunderstanding on my part of the capability of my LEGEREMENS investigation ability, which was rectified (relatively) soon after a quick query to our gracious host(s). I re-read not only my Role PM, but every results and after-action report PM I have received thus far, and I realized that there was a discrepancy between the wording of the results PM I had received when I scouted out kingkitty, and the results PM after scouting Lone_Prodigy. A discrepancy that has led me to this conclusion that EVERYONE SHOULD BACK THE FUCK OFF FROM VOTING OUT LONE_PRODIGY*

    *until further notice
  3. SPITE CAPS

1. It's just flavour, so yes I think you have a different win condition which leaves the rest of town on their own.

2. Don't be so secretive! What was different, how can you be convinced? Why would you withhold any of that? Do you believe we will blindly follow you now, when you just showed you didn't understand the results in the first place?
 

roytheone

Member
Blarg, just to get this right: While you would have gotten town back if you investigated Burb, you still got scum back when investigating L_P, right? And there is a part in your role PM that hints at the existence of a Sirius black Miller role and that's why you are thinking L_P is speaking the truth? Also:

Pegasus still GOAT tho

Griffon> Pegasus, there, I have said it!

That's a possibility but I assumed that we would have a Sirius role, although I probably shouldn't be making assumptions like that. I'm happy to believe them for now because their past behaviour hasn't made them suspicious in my eyes.

Yeah, those are pretty dangerous assumptions. Scum probably have fake names to claim which are the kind of roles you expect to be in the game, otherwise those fake names wouldn't really be of any value to them. On the other side, we probably have a couple of roles that are a bit more obscure, to avoid us just lynching everyone with a more obscure role claim and winning that way.
 
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