R_thanatos
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Gust unleached on PS4 would be too much for me in term of character models ... but i want it ASAP.
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Tales of Berseria trailer #2
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Cross game ( PS3 / PS4 )
Google is failing me, for obvious reasons. Are they some sort of modelling contractor?
I agree with Paltheos on almost everything regarding Zestiria.
The only things really in dire need of improvement in that game are the UI and the battle camera.
I'm playing FF13-2 right now on PC, and it's ridiculous how the character models in that Atelier shot on PS3 clearly have significantly higher polygonal definition on e.g. the hands than the ones in such an "AAA" game.
The only things really in dire need of improvement in that game are the UI and the battle camera.
I think part of it is great art, but one part is also simply allocating a higher polygon budget to the character models.
I'm playing FF13-2 right now on PC, and it's ridiculous how the character models in that Atelier shot on PS3 clearly have significantly higher polygonal definition on e.g. the hands than the ones in such an "AAA" game.
That's not true - as you say, the proof is in the pudding
OK, that looked great.
Did anyone else notice she was able to switch her target in mid air to continue her chain? That was awesome.
Oh and hello little guy, thanks for the zap..
The kid's attacks look like Cheria's now that I think about it.
Why is being like SO not good?
BTW I always think Tales has smoother free run battle systems than SO. I'm curious as to whether I'll enjoy SO5 more this time though.
What changes in SO5 make it seem like Tales? Besides the mystic arte looking mechanic.
So just to clear up some facts, there was a reason why there was that awkward transition for battles in Zestiria. If you actually check the size of the character models during and before/after the model, it's different. The game did the awkward jump backwards because it was to show a minimized character model to therefore accommodate the combat arenas being centered on the actual world. If they didn't do this then actual areas would be much smaller to fight in.
Agree!
They also added some manual guard controls.
They're not 1:1 or anything of course, it just seems like little things have been added/changed that make interacting with the games feel a bit more familiar compared to the even larger gaps with SO3 vs. Symphonia or SO4 vs. Vesperia.
Huh. That's pretty surprising and interesting.
Did this come up somewhere or you just happened to notice it?
I'm not really feeling this. The protagonist design is ugly as sin and I'm tired of the "realistic" style they keep chasing since Xillia 1.
Maye it's just that the last Tales of games made me lose faith in the developer team, it feels like they have no clue on what they are doing.
Maye it's just that the last Tales of games made me lose faith in the developer team, it feels like they have no clue on what they are doing.
Pancake Mix
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Velvet's character design and outfit is fantastic.
Interesting, Durante himself! Hang on a second, maybe I got what it was wrong exactly but there was some technical reason for it running at 30 FPS, you would know that better than anyone when you modded the game. I think it was the animations, but you found a way around it technically.
This time the game isn't just being designed for the PS3 so there's no difficulty.
That's not true - as you say, the proof is in the pudding
Interesting, Durante himself! Hang on a second, maybe I got what it was wrong exactly but there was some technical reason for it running at 30 FPS, you would know that better than anyone when you modded the game. I think it was the animations, but you found a way around it technically.
This time the game isn't just being designed for the PS3 so there's no difficulty.
Noticed it.
I didn't find a way around it actually, someone else did. And I certainly don't know better than anyone! However, I did write an article which goes into some detail about it if you'd like to know more.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
"This looks like a PS2 game" is the king of hyperbole posts. It looks nothing like one.
I am interested, thank you for the link!
Edit: Yeah it did indeed take some effort to up the frame rate and it didn't work perfectly at first.
I was just happy to be able to play it on PS4 personally.
Zestiria felt like the team was experimenting with a bunch of new ideas and only a handful worked. They tried to do open world, which was an improvement on what we got with the Xillias, but they either didn't have the budget/time for putting anything interesting in the open world, or just didn't bother. The Skill system is interesting, but the game does a halfass job at explaining it, and you're going to have to grind your ass off to get any good equipment. The combat is fun, even if it's a step down from Graces, which I assume was the inspiration for the combat. The introduction of the arts, casting arts, normal attack triangle was actually pretty good, well once you set your party to quit attacking casters with art attacks. This also helped balance Armatization so that it wasn't completely overpowered, since casters would just obliterate you since you have no normal attacks in Armatization mode. The limit of skits to just inns and resting points was odd, and the steady removal of cooking is just stupid. Xillia 1&2 only had snacks you could buy at stores, and food can only be bought at inns. Who in management decided that cooking should be removed from the games? It's so stupid.
The story is fine from what I've played, though some choices the writers made really hurt it. Side quests really love killing off kids, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. Characters are fine, which a majority of the cast being fun. The only ones I didn't like were Alisha for being boring as hell and Rose for story reasons. Doesn't help that certain reveals towards the end fall flat since it relates to a character that's barely in the game.
Could write more, but at the end of the day, Zestiria tried a bunch of new things, but it ended up hurting the game in the long run for me. So, if Namco takes everything they learned from Zestiria to make this game better, we could have a really great Tales of game. Just please be good.
The story is fine from what I've played, though some choices the writers made really hurt it. Side quests really love killing off kids, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. Characters are fine, which a majority of the cast being fun. The only ones I didn't like were Alisha for being boring as hell and Rose for story reasons. Doesn't help that certain reveals towards the end fall flat since it relates to a character that's barely in the game.
Could write more, but at the end of the day, Zestiria tried a bunch of new things, but it ended up hurting the game in the long run for me. So, if Namco takes everything they learned from Zestiria to make this game better, we could have a really great Tales of game. Just please be good.
NinjaCoachZ
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The writer of Symphonia and The Abyss is apparently working on a Tales game... but it's mobile. :|
I played Escha & Logy and I seriously doubt that it's the power of the PS3 and Vita that it's holding this games back.
CielTynave
Member
So I'm just getting up now, and it doesn't look like there was anything worthwhile that happened during their live stream? Definitely glad I didn't stay up for it lol.
Zxrophantom
Member
Pretty awesome! So far that combat is looking really nice. Hopefully close to the greatness of Graces f.
Later upgraded to Ancient Nova. Maelstrom is pretty good too.
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JuanLatino
Member
man why can't they just take the graphical direction of this game....or Vesperia !
it can't be the budget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xnz4cPf1UA
it can't be the budget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xnz4cPf1UA
Its obviously a low budget effort. Let's not pretend they are going to make a visual jump just because they moved to ps4 only
Right, Gust uses FlightUnit for the character models (oldest game I can find is Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia from 2006). Bandai Namco also used FlightUnit for at least the God Eater series before.
While Zestiria's character models are all outsourced with FlightUnit having a significant involvement, they don't have Jonathan Stern credited for shader programming (something he is for all of their other newer games I'm aware of, and that typical cell shading is what FlightUnit models excel at). I guess Bandai Namco really wants to keep that Xillia 1 look (while having character modelling outsourced not only to FlightUnit alone), even though the dark scenes at the start of the new trailer have totally cheap looking light and shadow shading on the models as a direct result of that decision.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Lol I remembered that you were super excited about Zestiria, that you had Sorey as part of your avatar for a long time. What happen?
Rising_Hei
Member
People that decide they love a game and become fanboy of it before actually playing it, hate it easier than the rest -0-
Seriously, it looks nothing like a ps2 game. It looks more like early ps3 games.
Any info on this new character or still just some teases? Zestiria kinda ended on a open note so a sequel is very possible.
Each iteration graphically gets better and better so idk what ya'll talking about.
Ultimadrago
Member
Yeah, I'll make a judgement once it releases. Sure looks like a Tales...game?
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah, I'm loving what they're showing of Velvet so far.
Yeah, they'd look so good
johndoe11235
Member
There is also the part in the trailer where a guy on his knees transforms into a werewolf which has the same effects as hellion transformation. Not sure if that is just reusing asset or actual hellion transformation.
Dragon Age: Inquisition ran surprisingly good for being a Bioware game on console. Still 30fps but very stable. Talking bout the PS4 version
It's also their best looking 3d game by far, not just technically but art-wise game is colorful and it just looks nice. Nothing like Dragon Age 1 and 2 or the Mass Effect trilogy. Those games just had a drab and shitty look to them. DA:I had some bugs, but that's to be expected from Bioware.
ScriptedReality
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alot of the models look familiar but im okay with this
It really doesn't animate that well BUT ITS SO DAM PRETTY AND FUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xin9GHbfeps
I wouldn't call it crap. Shallie and sophie comparision.
Check sophie out its dam prettty here too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md6HUa6lc_Y
So Zestiria sequel confirmed or the anime will partially cover Berseria since the anime is called "Tales of 20th Anniversary Animation" instead of "Tales of Zestiria the Animation".
If it's getting a sequel, I find it funny they aren't calling it Zestiria 2.
Zestiria 2 would come with all the bad baggage Zestiria came with. Even though they were working on this game long before Zestiria launched most likley
