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[Yoshi]

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I played a Timesplitters 2 deathmatch with four GameCube controllers on my Wii U yesterday.

Nice that the controller adapter is supported, too bad though that original discs cannot be used (I know that's Nintendo's fault). One thing I would be interested in - other than full GamePad control in Wii mode - is GameCube controller support for everything that supports the Pro Controller.

 

[Eila]

Nice that the controller adapter is supported, too bad though that original discs cannot be used (I know that's Nintendo's fault). One thing I would be interested in - other than full GamePad control in Wii mode - is GameCube controller support for everything that supports the Pro Controller.

I think that's already supported on 5.3.2 hack. I recall someone saying they were playing Super Mario 3D World on a gamecube controller.

 

[Massa]

Huh? Homebrew and Piracy have little to do with it. Retail purchasable cheat programs existed outside of homebrew apps, and had been released for Wii, PS3, and x360 last gen.

Homebrew by and large don't access the system's network, and piracy gives you 1:1 copies.

And it'll only be ruined if Nintendo doesn't have a system for checking and banning mods or cheaters. They didn't for Wii, so if they're so incompetent as to not do something for Wii U, then they almost deserve it.

There are different kinds of cheating programs. You could have a simple one on your router, or you could actually modify a game's data on your console RAM. The latter is enabled by console exploits.

Of course Nintendo has multiple ways to stop cheating. The point is an OS exploit can easily be used to bypass the most effective ones. It depends on how much control is gained by said exploit.

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

If this means anpther billions of cheaters online in Smash and Mario Kart and whatnot I will be fucking furious.

Cheaters in Mario Kart DS were the worst scum of the earth.

 

[Deleted member 126221]

I hope we'll get region free, if only to be able to import dirt cheap european versions of Devil's Third instead of paying $150+ for an american copy!

 

[Edgeward]

I look forward to having full gamepad support for all wii games

 

[Vagabundo]

I would have preferred they waited another year or two until the Wii U was officially abandoned, just because of online cheats for MK and Splatoon.

 

[JamesJoyce1882]

Companies that use region locking get only very limited sympathy from me when their stuff gets jail broken. The more pro-consumer a company is, the less likely people will search for exploits. PS3 only got hacked after they abandoned UNIX support.

 

[mugwhump]

...oops.

My point was, I turned off standby mode/autoupdate.

Pretty sure that doesn't work, you need to block the update URLs through your router or use another method.

I don't have router access, what are the odds Nintendo releases an update to block this before it releases? I wanna splatfest tomorrow

 

[DarkTom]

If they can unlock Gamepad button controls in Wii mode there's already a ton available too. Will be interesting to see if that feature is actually built into the OS or just the rereleased images.

That's all I want from this. If you have access to à modded Wii, you have a lot of possibilities.

 

[captmcblack]

If this is completely blown open like Wii was, I welcome this. The original Wii was the best set top emulation box besides OG Xbox...Wii U with a dev scene like Wii would be great.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

If this means anpther billions of cheaters online in Smash and Mario Kart and whatnot I will be fucking furious.

Cheaters in Mario Kart DS were the worst scum of the earth.

From my experience Smash is unplayable online anyway.

 

[chronic_archaic]

PS3 and 360 suffer from online cheats because of these hacks, which is a problem for everyone. You can say goodbye to Splatoon after this thing is out.

Nothing positive ever comes out of these hacks, it's just people getting excited to pirate some games and trolls excited to ruin everyone's online games. Fuck these hackers.

PS3 users of CFW can hack all they want. Xbox 360? If you want to mod for any amount of time be prepared to pay up. People sell things that allow you to stay connected online and use custom dashes/hacks too. And it doesn't really matter as the only people doing it are on COD and GTA V anyway, both which have communities large enough there's a good chance you'll never run into a hacker.

Wii was only plagued by hackers due to the ease of use. Wii U could be, but there's a good chance if Nintendo learned anything they have anti-cheat measures ready to rock. If not, then, well, I guess I can say hackers did a better job than Nintendo in terms of anti cheat - you can play Mario Kart Wii online now with VERY good anti-cheat both automated and human moderated. If they can do it, Nintendo definitely can.

 

[TLZ]

I want that region free so bad. Like I would do dirty things for it.

That is the one major thing I want from it.

 

[ramparter]

Finally. Proper Wiiware and Wii Virtual Console support for GamePad, here we come.

Playing CastleVania ReBirth and Muscle March in bed, away from the TV, will be so sweet.

If this happens it will be another embarassment for Nintendo, not be able to offer what hackers do...

It will be really bad though for online games as someone else mentioned. I remember before shutting down the Nintendo wifi connection, I entered an online game of Mario Kart Wii and was facing an opponent who was spamming big mushrooms and other items. He was messing with us, he would just allow us to catch him only to then start spamming again.

 

[Joey Ravn]

I've been using an SD card for GC games and a USB stick for Wii games (which is hidden with U-Stealth to prevent the Wii U from formatting it). What should I do if I want to move everything to an external HDD?

I've been surviving with the original 32GB model since I got my Wii U, but between the 10GB download for Xenoblade X and these, I've decided to finally get some more storage. I'd love to be able to have everything in one place, though.

 

[Joey Ravn]

I added some more info on how the exploit will work to the OP.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

5.5.0 is the latest

Thats great news. I think I'm a little more worried with hacking the Wii U, because of the NNID connection (e.g. having it blocked). Although I've gone back to mainly buying physical games, I have quite a few on 3DS and Wii U that I'm afraid of losing.

May wait until Wii U is done and dusted with or its proven that NNIDs are safe. Would love to be able to use a HDD loader like I have for my Wii U. It'll be nice to have games both physically and digitally.

 

[Sami+]

Probably won't happen but Project M 2 would be amazing. Melee with Smash 4 content and graphics mmmff

 

[Cipherr]

wrong thread

 

[GOOCHY]

If it gets full emulation I know what hardware I'm buying in the new year.

 

[Platy]

I am in the second Retroarch is ported to WiiU

Lets see some DS emulation there ... hackers do what nintendon't =P

 

[Trogdor1123]

Would love for this to happen and be easy to do. The Wii was awesome with homebrew. I hope this gets to that point.

 

[Joey Ravn]

Would love for this to happen and be easy to do. The Wii was awesome with homebrew. I hope this gets to that point.

All the signs are pointing at an easy-to-implement hack through the web browser, like the old Browserhax for 3DS. Hopefully it's as easy as putting some files on the SD, opening a webpage and that's that.

This is confirmation of nothing, of course. Just pure speculation on my part based on what the devs have said.

 

[inner-G]

If this is completely blown open like Wii was, I welcome this. The original Wii was the best set top emulation box besides OG Xbox...Wii U with a dev scene like Wii would be great.

My Wii is still my favorite emu box

Love using real SNES controllers via a Mayflash adaptor

Looks far better than original hardware on a HDTV when hooked up via component cables, but image quality is amazing over components to a CRT.

 

[Trogdor1123]

All the signs are pointing at an easy-to-implement hack through the web browser, like the old Browserhax for 3DS. Hopefully it's as easy as putting some files on the SD, opening a webpage and that's that.

This is confirmation of nothing, of course. Just pure speculation on my part based on what the devs have said.

The neat things they enabled were great, DVD player, media etc.

That paired with the second screen would be awesome

 

[Joey Ravn]

Guys, some bad, though expected, news:

So, my intention to release something exactly on Christmas is clearly not going to happen. I already knew it would be quite a stretch to get all the relevant stuff done by tomorrow, whence the warning that it was merely an intention.
Still, I'm steadily working on all that's necessary for a proper release and I will be spending the first month of the next year doing maintenance and giving support related to the exploit.
By the way, this doesn't mean it won't happen at all, I'm just giving an heads up so no one gets their hopes high for a Christmas eve release. Next week or so is a more plausible release date.

Source

Anyone familiar with the homebrew scene is surely familiar with this type of delays. Nothing to worry about if the release date has been moved to next week instead.

 

[Kouriozan]

Was just thinking about it, thanks for the update.

 

[GamingOblivion]

Is this homebrew expected to be on the level of the Wii's homebrew scene? I would love to use the GamePad for all sorts of things. Not to mention Project M 2 and such.

 

[Joey Ravn]

Is this homebrew expected to be on the level of the Wii's homebrew scene? I would love to use the GamePad for all sorts of things. Not to mention Project M 2 and such.

Probably, yes. Controlling the IOSU means controlling the core of the system itself, just like you could with with Wii's IOS (if not more). What will be done, though, remains to be seen. That's up to the developers.

 

[sonto340]

Is this homebrew expected to be on the level of the Wii's homebrew scene? I would love to use the GamePad for all sorts of things. Not to mention Project M 2 and such.

a lot of the scuttlebutt ive seen points to the delay being so there will be USB/SD Loader there along side the exploit, but take it with a pinch of salt of course.
Mods are already possible on the current exploit but its all a bit slapdash without access to the higher level system functions.

this would theoretically blow it wide open, so the sky (or homebrew developer's ambition) is the limit.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Fingers crossed something good happens

 

[Madao]

i have a spare wii u waiting for this whenever it gets to a interesting level (in a few years. wii homebrew took years to become really good)

 

[spons]

Welp, I've lent out my hacked OG Xbox to a buddy of mine and he sold it. Might as well jump on the latest and greatest...

What I'm wondering here is whether the Wii U is or will be a good alternative. Can I just pick up a random Wii U from the nearest store and make it work with homebrew comparable to the OG Xbox? Mostly in terms of old system emulation, but nowadays also HD media playback.

I don't really care about backups unless they're significantly easier to boot up than original games on disc. I remember something about ripping and installing games to the PS3 with Homebrew and something like that would be a great thing, but other than that I'm not interested.

Just some questions before I hurry to the cheapest place to (finally!) get a Wii U.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Welp, I've lent out my hacked OG Xbox to a buddy of mine and he sold it. Might as well jump on the latest and greatest...

What I'm wondering here is whether the Wii U is or will be a good alternative. Can I just pick up a random Wii U from the nearest store and make it work with homebrew comparable to the OG Xbox? Mostly in terms of old system emulation, but nowadays also HD media playback.

I don't really care about backups unless they're significantly easier to boot up than original games on disc. I remember something about ripping and installing games to the PS3 with Homebrew and something like that would be a great thing, but other than that I'm not interested.

Just some questions before I hurry to the cheapest place to (finally!) get a Wii U.

Nice friend... Any ways, I don't think that anyone really knows at this point

 

[sonto340]

latest update from Hykem

o, I've got good news and bad news.
The bad news is that I'm going to postpone the release again. I said this week would be a more realistic release date, but I never confirmed it would happen then. Still, it's not a huge delay and it's definitely not to wait for a new firmware update.
Like I stated before, I have the entire month of January free just to work on this and the exploit will be released and maintained before February (yes, I'm sure of that).
Now the good news, which should explain the additional delay. I need some time to pursue something I found in the MCP module. If I'm correct about this, we should be able to get a boot-time exploit. The reason for that is that the MCP module is responsible for launching "master" titles (like the PPC kernel, for example) and I found a bug that, if it turns out to be exploitable, should allow to hijack execution while MCP is still preparing to launch stuff. This means, early IOSU access and a direct boot into an exploitable environment. Not to mention that MCP is the IOSU user module with most privileges (next to BSP that is) and having access to it alone is more than enough to own the IOSU kernel at any given time.
I believe it's important to look into this because if it works, no one will have to worry about possibly bricking consoles by installing custom titles (homebrew channel, for example) and then attempting to launch them before triggering the exploit again after a fresh boot.

With that said, if this turns out to be nothing, I'll release the exploit right away.

Sucks that it won't be released this week, but this has the potential to be huge.

 

[Kouriozan]

The good news sounds good indeed, hope this will lead to something, I don't mind the delay.

 

[Joey Ravn]

I will always take cold-booting over getting the exploit now. Hykem better take his time to explore that possibility as thoroughly as he can!

Besides, my capacity to follow the scene can reach so much. With everything that's happening on the 3DS side, I can barely keep up with just one exploit!

 

[nullset2]

I can't wait for the "GAF Wii U Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!" thread to come up any time soon next year. It's gonna be awesome!

That thread was the thing of glory and magic. Yes, it was.

 

[Joey Ravn]

Some bad news, some "good" news...

1. @qlutoo posted this on Twitter:

2. Hykem responded on GBATemp:

Sigh...
It's legit and probably works up to 5.5.0. Could be using the same bug I found, could be using another one. Guess my work is moot now. Congratulations @plutoo, @smealum and @naehrwert.
Should be matter of time until the keys are out and the exploit afterwards.
I'm moving on then. See ya.

3. He followed up with:

I'm not rage quitting or anything like that, I'm moving on to something else because they already got there. I'm sure they will release this and keys will be "misteriously" leaked in the following days.
I already put too much time into this and I really don't want to waste it anymore.
Also, by 0days they are likely referring to having their own exploits.
Either way, you will all get what you have always wanted even sooner from respected developers, there's no loss here.

4. And lastly:

You are all misunderstanding here. I stated I was going to stop because I'm reaaally confident that they will release their work before me.
Plus, I had already predicted this would happen a long time ago. I had the feeling that if we would ever get close that some other group would release their stuff.
In my view, the Wii U scene will be in much more capable hands with them.

If they chose not to release, or if the exploit they developed was patched before 5.5.0, I see no reason to not release my work.
However, I strongly doubt that because I had already told naerhwert where to look for the bug I'm using.
Doesn't mean that's the one being used, but only they can confirm that.

So, yeah. Some mild drama, but now Team Smea is working on this, it seems. That's good, I guess. We're going to get a IOSU exploit sooner rather later, from the looks of it.

 

[Hasney]

So it's still gonna be Hykem

Jesus Christ...
You all took my wording out of context and turned this thread into a shitfest... again...
I already clarified things with naerhwert,
their work is not for release and uses a totally different exploit path then mine. This means they will be able to stockpile their exploit while I release mine. Problem solved.

I apologize if my wording was poor and it sounded like resentment or whatever. That was not what I meant.
I was simply stating that I would be moving on because they got there before me and have the means and time to build a great homebrew scene themselves (3DS was good example). Never I mentioned giving up or not releasing

 

[Joey Ravn]

The Nintendo scene is on fucking fire right now. I don't know if that's good or bad...

... well, at least it's something, right?

 

[gingerbeardman]

So it's still gonna be Hykem

Dude needs to keep his head down and Get Things Done.

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Dude needs to keep his head down and Get Things Done.

I don't think he was the one who created a thread about an announcement of an announcement of a hack that wasn't ready yet, though.

 

[GamingOblivion]

So it's still gonna be Hykem

Ehhh I still feel like he was being unclear here.

 

[KojiKnight]

Poor guy... the hacking community really does give people nothing but trouble... wouldn't blame anyone for dropping out when this is how they're treated for doing things for free.

 

[Rich!]

Really excited for custom DS game injection with this.

 

[miserable]

always with these dramas. here's a tip for "hackers": don't announce stuff, just release it when you are ready

 

[Atolm]

What interests me the most is Game Cube games on the Game pad. I wonder if it's possible. Right now you can use it as a display for Nintendont but you can't control the games.

 

[Doczu]

What interests me the most is Game Cube games on the Game pad. I wonder if it's possible. Right now you can use it as a display for Nintendont but you can't control the games.

Could be possible, but with a drawback (that literally makes no difference for about 90% of games): no analog triggers. Other than that - One Nintendo console to play them all.