Hmm, interesting, launch aligned, the XB1 shipments have fallen behind the PS3 shipments. I know we don't have an accurate estimation of the XB1 shipments, but it is very unlikely to be below 18 million. I personally predict it to be 19.5 million. So, it seems the XB1 will also fall behind the 360 in shipments soon. The PS4 will also eventually fall behind the PS2.I wonder why no one likes doing graphs anymore. I don't keep a record myself so I made a small amendment to Zhuge's shipments graph, so do note it's not a good comparison since it's only sell-in.
New data point for PS4 is sell through at 36.9 million
New data point for XB1 is minimum shipment of 17.7 million.
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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users
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They were both around 80 million a few years back. Maybe around 85 million now? I'm not sure since sales greatly fell off after 2013 and many stopped giving news/info on 360/PS3 sales since then.
That's just speculation, of course, but i bet both (PS3,360) are very close to 90 million.
I also believe is not impossible break this result, even if seem unlucky now, since they are almost death.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Splatoon over 4 million? What is this based on? It's sold 1m in Japan, sure, but 3m for the rest of the world? Joke post, surely.
The last update for Blooborne is also September. So 2 million vs 2.24 million. They're in the same range.
I'm torn between sad or hilarious.
The Artisan
Member
that was really upsetting for me. I'm a big fan of LBP and MM, and I loved LBP2 so much, it was such a good time and a great party game and I was so underwhelmed with LBP3. Not only was it a disappointment and I know MM have their own plans, but I truly hope one day they return to the LBP franchise for an LBP4, to give it the true 3D leap that the game deserves to evolve into.
I have been one saying the XBO is doing fine...but this puts things in a lil more perspective..
Damn.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Bloodborne LTD will be around 3-4 million the way I see it.
Splatoon LTD could be 4 million+ in the end.
Splatoon LTD could be 4 million+ in the end.
Dreams is essentially that. An evolution of LBP.
So the "age of Sony" isn't done. The market just naturally changed and became more open. 2 very different things from that Amir post you're going off of.
The Artisan
Member
Just because it's a 3D play create share platformer doesn't mean it's an evolution of LBP. It's its own new original idea.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
MM describe Dreams as an evolution of LBP.
Outrun
Member
Salt and also the need to piss on the other guys due to Sony's deserved successes...
The Artisan
Member
source?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Spot on. The PS4's dominance is, to me, not much different than its predecessors. In fact, he didn't want to talk numbers, but without them, the perspective is totally lost. The PS4 may not end up being the most successful in the family (PS2 will keep that spot), but I'd say it's a certainly that it will top the PS1.
This idea that "that age of Sony is done" is silly. The disc skipped a beat with the PS3 and now, they're back to dominance (something I feel they may always have by default, barring their own screw-ups like a PS3). The plus side now, they took that loss last gen, which made them a more focused, profit driven company who, for all intents and purposes, is back to dominating market-share, as well.
It's 35.9 million now & sold 17 million in 2015 it will hit 50 million at the end of this year.
ethomaz
Banned
17.7m minimum? Sources?I wonder why no one likes doing graphs anymore. I don't keep a record myself so I made a small amendment to Zhuge's shipments graph, so do note it's not a good comparison since it's only sell-in.
New data point for PS4 is sell through at 36.9 million
New data point for XB1 is minimum shipment of 17.7 million.
sacrificengineer
Member
Sony is getting the job done, son.
ethomaz
Banned
Record holiday MAU across Xbox One and Xbox 360.
That the last reliable number shared by MS.
Ghost Slayer
Member
I may miss something in sale threads. What does MAU stand for?
nycgamer4ever
Member
Every PS console has been a trojan horse. I doubt any of them were seen as side projects
PS1-CD
PS2-DVD
PS3-Bluray
PS4-VR/4K
The PS4 can output at 4K? News to me!
The Artisan
Member
vr is still a video game focused thing, though. 4K is a resolution. If you're talking about 4K movies or whatever, Ps4 definitely isn't pushing for that like sony pushed blu ray with Ps3
Microsoft have said XB1 is still outpacing 360 in the same timeframe. 2005-2007, 360 had sold through 17.7m units. XB1 is at a minimum of 17.7m shipped. Not concrete, but it tells us more than just MAU's (Monthly Active Users @ Ghost).
360 @ 17.7m sold http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/worldwide-360-sales-hit-177m
XB1 outpacing 360 as of 1/04/16 https://news.xbox.com/2016/01/04/greatest-games-extends-to-2016/
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yeah VR for games but i expect it to be use for more than that .
Makes no sense to leaven money on table with the other stuff it can do .
The Artisan
Member
maybe it'll be used for more than games but it's not being complemented with Ps4 the same way blu ray or DVD was for Ps3/2 respectively. Those features came built into the hardware/infrastructure of the consoles which means there was no extra cost to the consumer, and it was at launch.
Vr is coming almost two and a half years after Ps4 launched and no Ps4 owners are being forced to have it.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Even PS3 outputs 2160p still-images.
http://helpguide.sony.net/apps_pj/playmemories_4k_edition/v1/ww_us/en_view.html
Don't think it requires a later (revised HDMI) model PS3 either.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I'm not going to go through all the recent videos to try and find the two or three times they've said this, it would take forever. Just use Youtube and check the vids out.
Melchiah
Member
CD players were common already in the early 90's though. I got my first in 1991-92.
Several people at MM referred to it as a spiritual successor to LBP.
I mean I don't even know why you'd want an "official confirmation", it's blatantly obvious.
Is this on the bingo card? It should be.
Primethius
Banned
That is the bingo card.
I think that post covered 5 on its own.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That post hit for the cycle on the bingo card. BINGO
The Artisan
Member
Fine. I'm not doubting that they paraphrased dreams as a successor IP to LBP, but it is still not LBP. And I myself have explained numerous times in numerous threads how and why I feel this way.
i don't want "official confirmation" I want LBP4. But with the way dreams is being touted by the makers themselves, seems likely to me that the LBP series ends with the third installment.
Does UI fall under OS updates or should I've made it into its own slot?
FF Seraphim
Member
Nah it totally covers OS updates, can't change the UI without an update right?
/dead
Omnistalgic
Member
Well would u be satisfied if they showed Sackboy in the campaign? Because that hasn't been revealed yet.
The Artisan
Member
no man, I won't be satisfied period. Let this game be its own game. I am interested in it because I'm a fan of MM but I still want LBP4. It's not just about the whole "play create share" shit for me. LBP2 was imo one of the best PS3 games, and it gave me a "Mario party" feeling with my friends that I'm not feeling from dreams.
astroturfing
Member
doesn't really say much about a console how much it sells though.. but good job i guess.
i'm still pretty disappointed Sony went for a cheaper, not so powerful console. also it's too noisy, controller has seriously pathetic battery life (constant annoyance), lacking features even the PS3 had etc. definitely not the best console ever in my experience. i hope they try harder next time.
i'm still pretty disappointed Sony went for a cheaper, not so powerful console. also it's too noisy, controller has seriously pathetic battery life (constant annoyance), lacking features even the PS3 had etc. definitely not the best console ever in my experience. i hope they try harder next time.