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The 73rd Annual Golden Globes |OT| Episode MMXVI: Return of the Ricky

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The Revenant was excellent. Deserves all the rewards it can get and hopefully Leo wins an oscar for it. Hardy should win the best supporting actor as well

Edit: Did everyone really want Mad Max to win?? THAT movie?! Really? Pacific Rim all over again

Hey now, I think Pacific Rim is great but Mad Max is a far different movie and a much better one too

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Ho. ly. shit.
 

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I avoid nitpicking in general though. Like here's an example: I hated American Hustle, and went into Joy expecting a throughly mediocre film. I actually really liked it; one of J-Law's best performances and the overall story arc and themes it touched were quite fascinating.

It's just that I'm not really that public on my hate of O. Russell because I haven't seen a lot of his work, and he actually does work for me sometimes. Unlike Inarritu, who really hasn't impressed me at all (with the exception of delivering great performances from Keaton and Norton in Birdman).

"Hasn't impressed" is quite a different take from what you're saying about him earlier.

In any case, I'll expect a thorough "Wow! What a good movie! I'll eat that crow now!" or "Saw it, wasn't impressed. Inarritu is an ass!" review on The Revenant.

But it won't really be what you think of the movie. Because you want to prove everyone wrong by swaying on either direction or attempt to even bridge the gap, when you've probably picked the movie apart, but don't want to say what you really feel, because then it'll probably come off as nitpicking instead.

Bonne chance, mon ami!
 

Jonm1010

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I really enjoyed Mad Max, saw it several times actually, but I strongly disagree. It is no where near the level of those other films you mentioned. Mad Max is excellent, but very one dimensional. It doesn't have nearly the depth, the layers, the intellect, charisma, character development or the plot that those other films have, and to me, those things are essential ingredients in making a truly classic, all time great movie. The immense set pieces, beautiful cinematography, action, pacing, effects etc, those things alone simply aren't enough to propel a movie in to that upper echelon of cinema. Though they're certainly enough to make it highly entertaining.


Neither does Star Wars or Alien. We still consider them to be some of the greatest films in their respective decades.
 
I really feel like I'm missing something here...I saw the revenant yesterday and really didn't like it. It was beautifully shot but could've tossed about an hours worth of grunting from Leo. I thought the bear scene looked just off enough to take me out of it and the Indian language speech not matching up with the mouth moments was terrible. I did not buy the relationship with the son at all and those hallucination scenes seemed lame too. It had a bunch of ingredients I like ( Leo dicaprio, early west exploration) and love (Tom Hardy, Rocky Mountain scenery, Inarritu) but it really didn't come together for me but I feel like everyone else is super hot on it and I just don't get it?
not trying to come in any way rude but have you seen the native language being spoken? there aren't many mouth/lip movements from the IRL footage I've seen.
example

I don't agree with that at all and I really douibt that with the length's Inarritu and Co went to pull this shoot off that they would get amateurs to play the Native americans.
 

TheFlow

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I really enjoyed Mad Max, saw it several times actually, but I strongly disagree. It is no where near the level of those other films you mentioned. Mad Max is excellent, but very one dimensional. It doesn't have nearly the depth, the layers, the intellect, charisma, character development or the plot that those other films have, and to me, those things are essential ingredients in making a truly classic, all time great movie. The immense set pieces, beautiful cinematography, action, pacing, effects etc, those things alone simply aren't enough to propel a movie in to that upper echelon of cinema. Though they're certainly enough to make it highly entertaining.
I mostly agree with you But like the Dark Knight the movie is a modern classic. will it be surpassed? most likely but it will definitely be remembered.
 

Gobias

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Mad Max being nominated is surprising enough. It's like the Avengers movie, no matter how well it's received critically it will never be an award winner for movie of the year.

Comparing Mad Max to The Avengers is probably a huge disservice to Mad Max.
 
I love mad max and have seen it three times and I'll be happy if it pulls a grand Budapest and just absolutely destroy everyone else in the secondary awards. I just a want a "winner of multiple Academy awards" in the box set
 

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From earlier in the thread

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hamchan

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this thread is a perfect example, people get carried away by it and expect it to beat everything out.

Wanting it to beat everything and expecting it are two different things. I think most reasonable people who know what these awards like to go for know it has a very low chance.
 

Blader

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what? amores perros is the only good movie he's made pre-Birdman. the only reason why Birdman worked was because it was Inarritu acknowledging, so it seemed, his overwhelming fraudulence and hackery that was obvious to literally everyone except for him. but as the revenant shows, he has learned absolutely nothing (other than chivo being a god)

There's more self-importance in this paragraph than in any of Inarittu's films.
 

nib95

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Neither does Star Wars or Alien. We still consider them to be some of the greatest films in their respective decades.

Alien for me personally isn't up there with the others you previously mentioned, though I certainly enjoy the movie a hell of a lot. It might for example make it to my top 50, maybe. But Star Wars, I don't know how those same criticisms could ever be levelled at it. It is bursting with charisma, classic characters, a genre defining narrative and everything else. It is definitely a bit campy and dry in areas, and a massive amount of suspension of disbelief is required when watching it today, but I think that's mostly a sign of it's age, coupled with the superficial nature of it all.
 

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Wouldn't have won as a drama

Drama was stacked this year. But I think The Martian should've been slotted in anyway. Let it fend for itself.

Ridley Scott probably appreciates the award, but even he found it stupid being in the Comedy/Musical section. If it had won as a Drama, so be it. If not, at least it would've competed against other movies within its genre.

Not sure if it's new, but Wikipedia's listing The Martian as a comedy-drama. lol
 

LionPride

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Wanting it to beat everything and expecting it are two different things. I think most reasonable people who know what these awards like to go for know it has a very low chance.
Obviously people aren't reasonable, lotta people not underatanding that Mad Max ain't what gets voted for.

Also yet again, it has one black person, I mean we exist in Austraila
 

ajcacio

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not trying to come in any way rude but have you seen the native language being spoken? there aren't many mouth/lip movements from the IRL footage I've seen.
example

I don't agree with that at all and I really douibt that with the length's Inarritu and Co went to pull this shoot off that they would get amateurs to play the Native americans.

Not rude at all...haven't seen much of it spoken but that video kinda shows it. It's like of the video and audio were a split second off but I guess that's how it looks. Interesting
 
I really enjoyed Mad Max, saw it several times actually, but I strongly disagree. It is no where near the level of those other films you mentioned. Mad Max is excellent, but very one dimensional. It doesn't have nearly the depth, the layers, the intellect, charisma, character development or the plot that those other films have, and to me, those things are essential ingredients in making a truly classic, all time great movie. The immense set pieces, beautiful cinematography, action, pacing, effects etc, those things alone simply aren't enough to propel a movie in to that upper echelon of cinema. Though they're certainly enough to make it highly entertaining.

Why can't a work of great kineticism as a means of storytelling (calling back to silent film, and in turn, animation), incredible editing, incredible stunt work, with an incredible score be a classic movie? You're dismissing entire genres and styles of film making. Fury Road doesn't need the layers, intellect, and plot in the same way those other movies do because it's speaking a different language, and has different goals.
 

JTripper

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Did anyone make a gif of Leo's face when Gaga won and put her hand on his chair?

Shit was classic but extremely brief. I hope it exists.
 

MaulerX

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Saw The Revenant today with the wife and teens. Fucking intense and pretty graphic to boot. Movie deserves alot of awards and Leo definitely deserves an Oscar Imo.
 

TheFlow

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Wanting it to beat everything and expecting it are two different things. I think most reasonable people who know what these awards like to go for know it has a very low chance.
this is GAF we are talking about though. Just look at Toothless and some others here. Reason won't really be applied
 

amaretto

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Anyway, enough about Mad Max/Revenant. The real fucking crime was Kirsten Dunst turning in one of the finest television performances of the decade and losing to Lady Gaga for that wooden, amateur mess of a performance.
 
Saw The Revenant today with the wife and teens. Fucking intense and pretty graphic to boot. Movie deserves alot of awards and Leo definitely deserves an Oscar Imo.
I was definitely surprised at how gory it was. I mean, I expected it to be brutal, but it still shocked me a little.
 

MaulerX

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lol

From eww to evil eyes in a single second


I see some places making a big deal about that. It looked like he honestly didn't see her coming when he had his elbow sticking out and just had a funny "Whoops!" type reaction when he realized his elbow brushed on her vigina.
 

Jonm1010

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Alien for me personally isn't up there with the others, though I certainly enjoy the movie a hell of a lot. It might for example make it to my top 50, maybe. But Star Wars, I don't know how those same criticisms could ever be levelled at it. It is bursting with charisma, classic characters, a genre defining narrative and everything else.

Im not really speaking about personally though, more what trajectory it is looking like Mad Max is going to take historically. And thus why it getting snubbed will possibly look like when those films got snubbed or ignored altogether.

It is hitting this incredible run of garnering insane acclaim from genre fans, major critical circles(it is cleaning up on critics lists), those highly respected in the industry and gaining a rabid cult following amongst amateur film buffs. Not unlike a film like Pulp Fiction did. It looks poised to continue to grow in acclaim over time, not diminish.

I don't feel like getting into an in depth discussion on this but the complexity of Star Wars plot and character is arguably more shallow then Mad Max. My only point was to show that there are classic movies that aren't these complex, layered, character studies that have grown into classics in their respected decade. Raiders of the Lost Ark, Die Hard or Terminator would be some more examples.
 
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