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Amiibo Wolf Link to unlock a new dungeon in Twilight Princess HD ?

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Stone Ocean

Member
Malyse said:
You still aren't getting it.

If you want the dungeon, suck it up, deal with the "stupid method" and get the amiibo. It's still that simple.
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Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and pay around 40~50 dollars for a dungeon because that's how much a new amiibo costs over here.

That's not utterly insane or abusive at all. Really, it's my fault for not living somewhere where amiibos are plenty, I'm gonna go ahead and fuck myself out of this discussion.
 
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OrbitalBeard

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Yukinari said:
Twilight Princess, a game with enough dungeons gets more content while Wind Waker HD didnt get anything new aside from quality of life enhancements to the gameplay.

What the fuck.
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Amiibo wasn't a thing in 2013.

According to a few posters in this thread though, this new dungeon would still exist without Amiibo, which is why we got that awesome new stage in TWW HD.
 
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Yukinari

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
Amiibo wasn't a thing in 2013.

According to a few posters in this thread though, this new dungeon would still exist without Amiibo, which is why we got that awesome new stage in TWW HD.
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Wii U games that didnt support amiibo got updated to do so like Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors.
 
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GoldStarz

Member
Okay, but does this even like have supporting evidence outside of the one Amazon.fr page? Because it's not like Amazon doesn't make dumb goof ups about games all the time and arguing over it is kinda moot if it doesn't actually exist.
 
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ErrorMacro

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Great for anyone who lives outside NA, Europe and Japan, and has to pay exorbitant prices for a toy to unlock on disk content for an already expensive game. I hope this is either unlockable without the damn amiibo, or at least available at a reasonable price in the e-shop.
 
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spindashing

Banned
I understand the frustration of the people against the idea. I'd rather the extra dungeon be available as downloadable DLC so that everyone could get it easily and instantly. It's more convenient, especially in areas that cannot easily access amiibos.
 
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also

Banned
papo said:
The only physical version of the game available that I've seen is the version that comes with the figure. That version is at the same reduced 'Remaster' cost that Nintendo usually does. I really don't get the outrage here. Just get the game that comes with the figure standard, scan it then throw it away.

You just want to be outraged, if not why accuse them of hiding day 1 DLC. And yes I forgot about the digital version because the amiibo is not digital. Even so stop reaching conlcusion and stupid outrage over one unexplained sentence about an extra dungeon. There will most likely be other ways to get it.
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Amazon.de
Amazon.jp
The point is the Amiibo doesn't come standard with the game like you claimed it does.

No, I what I want is for Nintendo to stop locking DLC behind plastic crap. I'm just calling it exactly as it is; day 1 on-disc DLC but the unlock key is disguised as an Amiibo instead of a paper slip or a listing on the eShop. And it seems to be working perfectly as people are really eager to defend this BS.
 
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Kouriozan

Member
GoldStarz said:
Okay, but does this even like have supporting evidence outside of the one Amazon.fr page? Because it's not like Amazon doesn't make dumb goof ups about games all the time and arguing over it is kinda moot if it doesn't actually exist.
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They wouldn't put that randomly without notice from publishers too, it's pretty much confirmed.

EDIT : you can always buy the Amiibo separately.

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OrbitalBeard

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Atmej said:
Amazon.de
Amazon.jp
The point is the Amiibo doesn't come standard with the game like you claimed it does.

No, I what I want is for Nintendo to stop locking DLC behind plastic crap. I'm just calling it exactly as it is; day 1 on-disc DLC but the unlock key is disguised as an Amiibo instead of a paper slip or a listing on the eShop. And it seems to be working perfectly as people are really eager to defend this BS.
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They aren't going to stop, at least not for awhile. The Nintendo community has embraced Amiibo. If it bothers you, I'd move on. Otherwise, you're about to get a lot more angry over the next couple years.
 
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papo

Member
People it's one sentence and no official announcement on it and you guys are already reaching epic levels of conclusion.

If you want it day 1 just knowing the info we have now suck it up and buy the package that comes with the figure at no extra cost. If you by digital or don't want the figure or couldn't get it then wait for an official response to this because you know this will be addressed at some point.

The bundle has been coming on and off through the past weeks. I feel even though it is limited it's not going to be that rare since the physical package has it included.
 
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Sami+

Member
Amiibo are such fucking bullshit. Really hate what Nintendo's become these days.

JoeM86 said:
The content that is locked behind amiibo is almost always content that would not exist if not for the amiibo. It's a fallacy that people say they're locking stuff behind it.



They mean Zelda Wii U. Nintendo confirmed this in the last Direct.
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Hahaha are you serious? There's no way you actually believe some cheap plastic is serving as anything but an excuse to jack up the price on what would otherwise be free or cheap on disc DLC.
 
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papo

Member
Atmej said:
Amazon.de
Amazon.jp
The point is the Amiibo doesn't come standard with the game like you claimed it does.

No, I what I want is for Nintendo to stop locking DLC behind plastic crap. I'm just calling it exactly as it is; day 1 on-disc DLC but the unlock key is disguised as an Amiibo instead of a paper slip or a listing on the eShop. And it seems to be working perfectly as people are really eager to defend this BS.
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Ok didn't know that in other territories it was like that, even then it is plastic crap only to you and some other because they have sold really well.

You are getting to mad about stuff that is really not true for everyone. People are eager to defend it because they like Amiibos, they like that they are kind of cheap and that on top of being cool looking figures they give free content in other games. Content that will most likely be available in other ways.

The point is stop making a bid deal about a one sentence leaked announcement that we have no official answer on. it seem you hate Amiibo and are using this incomplete info to rage about them some more.
 
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OrbitalBeard

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Cool Guy Sami said:
Hahaha are you serious? There's no way you actually believe some cheap plastic is serving as anything but an excuse to jack up the price on what would otherwise be free or cheap on disc DLC.
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His point is that a lot of Amiibo content wouldn't exist without the figures. And I agree.

Nintendo wouldn't have created a Pac-Man and Mega Man costume for Mario Kart 8. They wouldn't have created Fire Emblem content for Code Name STEAM. And based on TWW HD, they wouldn't have created this little bonus dungeon for TP HD.

You can hate Amiibo all you want and I actually can understand why some aren't into the whole idea, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the DLC aspect. I don't believe for a second Nintendo is creating content that would have otherwise existed without Amiibo and then choosing to lock it behind the figures after the fact.
 
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Serenitynow

Member
I think it's great! Finally an actual use for an amiibo! And as many people have said before, the game is complete without it.

Amiibo are here to stay - I personally would like them to do more than just give me costumes or restore my hearts in games. Nintendo may not nail every single usage, but they have to start making the amiibo benefits more significant. But we should wait and see what this dungeon is.
 
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Haganeren

Member
What the fuck ?
That's horrible ! When you make a remaster like that and you add no content, it's already quite shitty in my opinion... But having a budget and only make your add on available for those who buy a toy ? That's plain horrible !

Absolutly disgusting, i can't believe so much people don't care about that.
 
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Steve Youngblood

Member
TheMoon said:
A figurine that comes bundled with the game... for regular price and that will be widely available by itself.

I wish people would decide finally if they want amiibo to be more useful in a game or not. It's getting annoying, this constant back and forth.
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Well, I don't know who the "people" are that you refer to, but I feel like I've always been pretty consistent. My position is that I want Amiibos to die in a fire and if I'm buying this game, I'll probably go digital like I do with all my other games. So, no, I wasn't going to get the figure bundled for free.
 
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joelseph

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Serenitynow said:
I think it's great! Finally an actual use for an amiibo! And as many peoe have said before, the game is complete without it.

Amiibo are here to stay - I personally would like them to do more than just give me costumes or restore my hearts in games. Nintendo may not nail every single usage, but they have to start making the amiibo benefits more significant. But we should wait and see what this dungeon is.
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Splatoon. Greatest game, greatest Amiibo unlocks.
 
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Evil's Bane

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
His point is that a lot of Amiibo content wouldn't exist without the figures. And I agree.

Nintendo wouldn't have created a Pac-Man and Mega Man costume for Mario Kart 8. They wouldn't have created Fire Emblem content for Code Name STEAM. And based on TWW HD, they wouldn't have created this little bonus dungeon for TP HD.

You can hate Amiibo all you want and I actually can understand why some aren't into the whole idea, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the DLC aspect. I don't believe for a second Nintendo is creating content that would have otherwise existed without Amiibo and then choosing to lock it behind the figures after the fact.
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If tthe only way Nintendo could be assed to create new content people have been asking for is to lock it behind cheap plastic toys then that says a lot about the company, none of it being good.
 
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KingSnake

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Atmej said:
ITT you learn that the USA =/= world; the Amiibo bundle is a limited edition in EU and Japan and the standard edition comes with the game only.
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You can still order both the limited edition and the amiibo on any amazon. You can bet the amiibo will be largely available since it will be used also for the new Zelda.

So you can relax with this one complain.
 
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davidwhangchoi

Member
i got the bundle pre-order prior but hearing nintendo going down this road is not a good sign.

what's next? samus can't morph without a Chozo amiibo?
 
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JoeM86

Member
Atmej said:
No, I what I want is for Nintendo to stop locking DLC behind plastic crap. I'm just calling it exactly as it is; day 1 on-disc DLC but the unlock key is disguised as an Amiibo instead of a paper slip or a listing on the eShop. And it seems to be working perfectly as people are really eager to defend this BS.
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Is it locking DLC when the content was created specifically for amiibo?

Evil's Bane said:
Nintendo really has been basically getting away with on disc DLC with this amiibo thing. It's just been minor shit before now so I didn't care. This and Co op in Shovel Knight are inexcusable though
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Be fair, Shovel Knight isn't Nintendo.
 
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Sami+

Member
ghst said:
I wish I could go back a few years and take this post me.

"this is how nintendo fans will react to an additional zelda dungeon on the disc being locked behind a paywall in 2016"
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I used to be active on some really Nintendo centric forums (Sonic stuff) so I vividly remember all the Wii fans snarking about how Nintendo's so pro-consumer and "above that" when Capcom was pulling bullshit like this, only not even as bad as Nintendo is now. Of fucking course the ship has done a whole 180 now.

Dr. Black Jack said:
That's what people get for being a dumbass and buying digital then.

Not to mention that this isn't even an official announcement so we don't have any details for it yet. Digital buyers could have the dungeon included for all we know.
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Fucking wow at this post
 
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Stone Ocean

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
His point is that a lot of Amiibo content wouldn't exist without the figures. And I agree.

Nintendo wouldn't have created a Pac-Man and Mega Man costume for Mario Kart 8. They wouldn't have created Fire Emblem content for Code Name STEAM. And based on TWW HD, they wouldn't have created this little bonus dungeon for TP HD.

You can hate Amiibo all you want and I actually can understand why some aren't into the whole idea, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the DLC aspect. I don't believe for a second Nintendo is creating content that would have otherwise existed without Amiibo and then choosing to lock it behind the figures after the fact.
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Oh please , do you honestly think that if Amiibos weren't a thing Nintendo couldn't just make the same content but sell it as digital DLC like any other company?
 
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Faustek

Member
siiigh, well I already have my ordered and paid but still.

And no the "Remaster" isn't complete without the amiibo. My gamecube release is complete, my Wii edition is gimmicky. Fuck Nintendo, fuck everyone thinking this is great and fuck old apple pie.
 
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Yukinari

Member
joelseph said:
Splatoon. Greatest game, greatest Amiibo unlocks.
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Splatoon really does have the most significant amiibo content out of any game. But at the same time im pretty sure only the US has the 3 pack and not every country has a plentiful supply of the Squid amiibo.
 
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Evil's Bane

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
If you feel that way, stop buying their products.
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Except they still make games that I like, and they're definitely not going to change for the better if all they have to listen to are the fans that kiss their ass and defend everything they do.

So, yeah I'm going to continue to voice my displeasure and I hope others do the same.
 
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Griss

Member
Steve Youngblood said:
Well, I don't know who the "people" are that you refer to, but I feel like I've always been pretty consistent. My position is that I want Amiibos to die in a fire and if I'm buying this game, I'll probably go digital like I do with all my other games. So, no, I wasn't going to get the figure bundled for free.
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I've never had a problem with Amiibo because despite hating plastic tat they've always been relatively useless but 'neat' or cosmetic bonus features and therefore I don't feel like I'm missing out.

If they change that and start locking real content behind them then my opinion will swiftly change to become like yours.
 
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RK128

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Evil's Bane said:
If tthe only way Nintendo could be assed to create new content people have been asking for is to lock it behind cheap plastic toys then that says a lot about the company, none of it being good.
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They have to sell the amiibo somehow man :l. If it means generating new content, then so be it.

I don't like it being tied to significant content too (playable characters from FE in Code Named STEAM, this dungeon in TP HD, extra SP missions in Splatoon, ect) but simple unlocks like costumes and skins? Cool :), non intrusive and a nice little unlock.

Nintendo is backwards on a lot of things, so them making new content only for the amiibo and not offering the options to get it via DLC is a dumb move. But Nintendo is going to Nintendo, and if you don't like it, don't support them.

I only got the third party amiibo only to have it be a nice figurines on my TV, not for any game-related means (don't own New 3DS or Wii U) and I plan on getting the Cloud, Ryu and Shovel Knight amiibo in the future.
 
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Chopper

Member
Stone Ocean said:
Oh please , do you honestly think that if Amiibos weren't a thing Nintendo couldn't just make the same content but sell it as digital DLC like any other company?
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They could, but they chose not to. They chose to attach the bonuses to toys that are compatible across multiple games.

Don't like it? Don't buy into it. You're not missing much. None of the content ever attached to amiibos has ever been essential in any way. It is simply a bonus for those who support the movement.
 
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OrbitalBeard

Member
Stone Ocean said:
Oh please , do you honestly think that if Amiibos weren't a thing Nintendo couldn't just make the same content but sell it as digital DLC like any other company?
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Oh, they absolutely could. I don't think they would though. I'm not seeing the point of a Mega Man costume in Mario Kart 8 if Amiibo doesn't exist.

Evil's Bane said:
Except they still make games that I like, and they're definitely not going to change for the better if all they have to listen to are the fans that kiss their ass and defend everything they do.

So, yeah I'm going to continue to voice my displeasure and I hope others do the same.
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That's fine. Just know that voicing your displeasure while continuing to buy a company's products does almost nothing to incite any real change.

If I were as outraged about Amiibo as some here, I'd gladly stop supporting any game that utilized the functionality.
 
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Lunar15

Member
Nah, it's a bad practice if true. I'm not sure why people are defending it.

The "if true" part is important, though. I'm not sure we fully know what this is yet.
 
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balladofwindfishes

Member
Stone Ocean said:
Oh please , do you honestly think that if Amiibos weren't a thing Nintendo couldn't just make the same content but sell it as digital DLC like any other company?
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Mario Kart 8 wouldn't have had Mii costumes without amiibo.

But especially not ones of Mega Man, Sonic and Pac Man.


Mario Maker probably would have had less costumes as well, and not ones of Pokemon or third parties. Or some of the oddball Smash characters like Dark Pit.
 
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Yasumi

Banned
Cool Guy Sami said:
Hahaha are you serious? There's no way you actually believe some cheap plastic is serving as anything but an excuse to jack up the price on what would otherwise be free or cheap on disc DLC.
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Didn't you know? It's literally impossible for Nintendo to include additional content without locking it behind a simple NFC scan.

Costumes, characters, and levels? Don't act so entitled to such things, there's no way you could possibly make them unlockable through gameplay (please ignore Mario Maker though). They're also a bargain, since you can use them in multiple games (except when you can't).
 
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phanphare

Banned
ehhhhhhh, this worries me a bit. I haven't really felt any sort of way about amiibo but this implementation might be overstepping the bounds. I'll hold off judgement until all the details are out there and we know what the dungeon will be.
 
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Stone Ocean

Member
Chopper said:
They could, but they chose not to. They chose to attach the bonuses to toys that are compatible across multiple games.

Don't like it? Don't buy into it. You're not missing much. None of the content ever attached to amiibos has ever been essential in any way. It is simply a bonus for those who support the movement.
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"Movement"? What?

It's not a "bonus", it's why these toys exist in the first place. The whole point of amiibos is to be scanned.
OrbitalBeard said:
Oh, they absolutely could. I don't think they would though.
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Why wouldn't they? They're already doing DLC. But now they wouldn't be able to charge 15 bucks for a costume attached to a happy meal toy, now would they?

To think people used to clamor Nintendo "does DLC right" after MK8
 
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HotHamBoy

Member
Hmm. On one hand, it's good to give amiibo owners a reason to own the amiibos. On the other hand, people who don't care about amiibos either have to miss out or spend an absurd amount of money for a small extra.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, especially if amiibo bonuses start becoming more substantial. Perhaps amiibos should only unlock things in games where amiibos are at the center.
 
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Insaniac

Member
Begin wild speculation about stuff locked behind amiibo and "amiibo dlc"!!!!

Don't care until things are officially revealed
 
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Omegasquash

Member
Stone Ocean said:
Oh please , do you honestly think that if Amiibos weren't a thing Nintendo couldn't just make the same content but sell it as digital DLC like any other company?
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Devil's advocate, but don't some Amiibo work across multiple games? You could argue that Amiibo are offering additional value than just a one-off DLC package. In that way, they're a much more consumer friendly way to sell DLC.

That said, this sounds very much like what they said they weren't going to do, which was lock content behind Amiibo. I need to learn more about the dungeon before I make a decision either way, but I've got the CE on order already anyway.
 
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