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Dragon Quest VII and VIII 3DS in the west. What once seemed impossible is now reality

But I liked the regional accent stuff in the NA DQVIII. I thought it had a lot more character than the typical localization.

The games that came after VIII over did it, but VIII struck a fantastic balance. If VIIIr uses the original dub cast and English script I will buy the localization despite being able to understand the JP version just fine.
 
It's always on Nintendo agenda to release such high quality title like Dragon Quest from Japan to the west. Why do you think thry have region lock on first place? So that we don't get crap like thousand years old that looks like a twelve yeats old. Indeed it took a long time but that's the thing with high quality effort localization from Nintendo, it's not like some other company that used doge meme in their localization.

You missed the opportunity to talk about how both should be ported to the NX.

Also the comments DQ83DS is getting are kind of concerning. Not only do most of them show a great deal of misinformation, but also people that roared about unlocalized DQ games are now backpedaling on it. This is, like, the chance for us to show we really want DQ games.
 

Pancake Mix

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Given the outrage that happened the last time Squenix decided to not localize something fully in a DQ game, I doubt that would happen. It would be strange to record a new VA performance for a character, but it's hardly unprecedented and already has some very notable examples, like Persona 4.

You have a point. I bet they're happy that there's already an extremely good base localization though.

You missed the opportunity to talk about how both should be ported to the NX.

Also the comments DQ83DS is getting are kind of concerning. Not only do most of them show a great deal of misinformation, but also people that roared about unlocalized DQ games are now backpedaling on it. This is, like, the chance for us to show we really want DQ games.

Pretty much. It's often considered the best JRPG of the PS2 era and has been greatly enhanced on 3DS, you won't be disappointed. Both are worth your money and your time.
 

Heartfyre

Member
It's so great to get Dragon Quest VII, since that was never released in Europe in any shape or form before now. I've heard such great things about it that I'm definitely diving into it.

I'll probably get the Dragon Quest VIII release as well, but not happily. I love all the gameplay enhancements, but to package that all together with a simplified aesthetic is such a disappointment. To think, a decade on, the best way to play the game would be a graphically inferior version. I'm normally not one to rage on about graphics, but the mix of technology and art was such a huge appealing factor for me in the original release that it still stings. I would love to see the game and all the enhancements in HD someday, but I guess I'll hold my nose for the time being and support these localisations.
 
I'm definitely getting both of these. I had given up hope that these would ever see a western release so it's great to see Nintendo come in to save the day.

The visual downgrade in DQ8 is unfortunate since I absolutely love the look of the PS2 version, but the truth is, I've never actually finished DQ8 because of how slow the battles are compared to the other Dragon Quests. So having no random battles, a battle speedup option and various tweaks/additions will still make the 3DS version the most fun to play.
 

KiTA

Member
Will my DW7 guide work with the 3DS version or are there a lot of changes?

One of the fan translators of the 3DS game said the script is nearly the exact same, although the intro and additional content are revamped. No idea about item placement et all.
 

Pancake Mix

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It's been a few days, but I think folks might be interested in the following: NOA didn't just release RPG info on Twitter today, they held a press conference where they said DQVII is getting a brand new localisation, as expected.

https://youtu.be/jYZjDBBT4Fg

And on twitter they reconfirmed this summer.
 

heringer

Member
I'm curious to see if they will release the mobile version here. If it's Nintendo doing the localization, it ain't happening.
 

Kouriozan

Member
Surprised they are going to re-translate DQ VIII as well.
EDIT : maybe GameXplain meant something else by "top notch localization"

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Ridley327

Member
It's been a few days, but I think folks might be interested in the following: NOA didn't just release RPG info on Twitter today, they held a press conference where they said DQVII is getting a brand new localisation, as expected.

https://youtu.be/jYZjDBBT4Fg

And on twitter they reconfirmed this summer.

No surprise there, since DQ7 was made long before Squenix created the localization standards for the series. It would have been much more surprising if Squenix left things as is outside of whatever new content the game has.
 
Yeah if Nintendos doing the translation I doubt they'd release it on mobile unless square gives a cut to Nintendo.

Given that VII is using an alliterative title I would hazard a guess nintendo are just footing the bill and SE's preferred translators, Plus Alpha Translations are doing it. :/

Err the original PS2 games' localization and voice acting was REALLY good IMO.

Yes, that's what I said? Though I disagree on the actual translation job, but the VA work was indeed good as I said.
 
Err the original PS2 games' localization and voice acting was REALLY good IMO.

Maybe they're getting the original VAs and redoing the lines.

Why do you guys think mentioning "top-notch localisation" means they're doing it all over again? It can quite easily just mean they're using the PS2 one which they think is a top tier job.

Maybe the localization team felt there weren't enough god-awful puns.

They didn't have nearly as much accent stuff in eight compared to their later localisations did they? Been a while since I played it.
 
Still only ever played the original Dragon Warrior as a kid on NES. One of my favorite NES games too.
Dragon quest 8 is pretty much the exact same thing. It's pretty astonishing that even with super high end production values the formula hasn't changed almost at all. Battles play out the same ( of course with a party instead of one dude) you'd probably be delighted at how it tickles your nostalgia itch and overall it's one of the best RPGs ever made
 
Dragon quest 8 is pretty much the exact same thing. It's pretty astonishing that even with super high end production values the formula hasn't changed almost at all. Battles play out the same ( of course with a party instead of one dude) you'd probably be delighted at how it tickles your nostalgia itch and overall it's one of the best RPGs ever made

I think tension/weapon skills adds quite a lot to be fair. It is still surprisingly close almost twenty years later though
 

Ridley327

Member
They didn't have nearly as much accent stuff in eight compared to their later localisations did they? Been a while since I played it.

DQ8 had plenty of differing accents in it. I think it's easier for people to swallow them when they're voice acted, which hasn't been the case for nearly every game that's come out in the west since then.
 

Scrawnton

Member
What are you guys thinking the release dates for these games are? The original announcement said DQ7 was early summer, which made me think a June release around E3 time, but the recent update just says "summer" which sounds like a July release to me.

I don't really expect to see DQ8 releasing until November at the earliest, but that's always a crowded month; so maybe early December (xenoblade x slot) makes the most sense for that game?


Dragon quest 8 is pretty much the exact same thing. It's pretty astonishing that even with super high end production values the formula hasn't changed almost at all. Battles play out the same ( of course with a party instead of one dude) you'd probably be delighted at how it tickles your nostalgia itch and overall it's one of the best RPGs ever made
I didn't play my first Dragon Quest til 2010 (I'm 28 for reference) and it all started with 4. I got to 8 in 2011 and after beating it, it easily became my most favorite game ever. I'd suggest DQ8 to literally anyone who is a fan of RPGs or Nintendo games (because of the charm and polish).
 

Scrawnton

Member
I did not really follow up in the release of DQ8 3ds in Japan, but didn't they add a way for you to reallocate your skills points easily? I like the idea of experimenting with different weapons whenever I want and not being penalized for going down one path and being stuck with it for most of the game.

If I remember right DQ VIII on PS2 already had great localization.
It did have a great localization and the voice acting was fantastic, but from what I remember the actual quality of the voice audio was low and sounded off. Maybe they're rerecording all of the lines for a better sound quality.
 

Scrawnton

Member
Is DQ VII 3D? i know isn't.

What's the best one out of the two? Or which one is more enhanced?
I can't compare the two because I never played 7 at all, but 8 is a simply fantastic game. I'd say 7 is the most enhanced because it has a completely new graphic style and is a true remake. 8 is a port with new features.

I am super excited to own 8 on my 3ds and to play it again, but the game is a known quantity. 7 will be a completely new experience for me so I am more excited for that.

If you never played 8, then if play that one, but there are going to be months in between releases and there's enough time to play both, which all RPG fans should do.
 

Scrawnton

Member
I really hope they keep the original VAs for DQ8 if they completely redo the localization.
They already got the same voice actors for Jessica and Yangus for the NA versions of DQ Heroes, so you'd imagine they're working on this. The Angelo voice actor wasn't memorable to me; outside of those two, the King would need to be the original actor as well to keep the great experience together.
 
They already got the same voice actors for Jessica and Yangus for the NA versions of DQ Heroes, so you'd imagine they're working on this. The Angelo voice actor wasn't memorable to me; outside of those two, the King would need to be the original actor as well to keep the great experience together.

Jessica was a different VA.
 

Meffer

Member
Why do you guys think mentioning "top-notch localisation" means they're doing it all over again? It can quite easily just mean they're using the PS2 one which they think is a top tier job.



They didn't have nearly as much accent stuff in eight compared to their later localisations did they? Been a while since I played it.
I meant recording new dialogue.
 

Meffer

Member
DQ8 had plenty of differing accents in it. I think it's easier for people to swallow them when they're voice acted, which hasn't been the case for nearly every game that's come out in the west since then.
8's accents were more manageable and readable. It was the remakes on the DS that took them too far.
 
I just hope that they get the orchestral soundtrack and British voice acting from the western PS2 version into DQ8 for 3DS.
Fill eventual new lines with voice actors from Xenoblade and everyone will be a happy little camper.
 

Raw64life

Member
I'm buying it no matter what, but DQ8 getting re-localized is worrying and also completely unnecessary IMO. Use that money and manpower to localize the DQM games instead.
 

Arkeband

Banned
They didn't have nearly as much accent stuff in eight compared to their later localisations did they? Been a while since I played it.

The accents were tolerable in 8, but yeah, voice acting probably helped. But I was referring to how they attempt to turn every possible facet of the game into some kind of joke, from changing magic spells that sound like incantations into sounds you'd make when you sneeze ("Kerfloofle!"), to the names of towns (it was not "Swinedimples", a Harry Potter reference, in the Japanese version of 9)

8's humor stemmed more from character interactions than cheap throwaway puns. The most laugh-out-loud moments usually stemmed from people sneaking up on Yangus.
 
The accents were tolerable in 8, but yeah, voice acting probably helped. But I was referring to how they attempt to turn every possible facet of the game into some kind of joke, from changing magic spells that sound like incantations into sounds you'd make when you sneeze ("Kerfloofle!"), to the names of towns (it was not "Swinedimples", a Harry Potter reference, in the Japanese version of 9)

8's humor stemmed more from character interactions than cheap throwaway puns. The most laugh-out-loud moments usually stemmed from people sneaking up on Yangus.

Yeah, the town name stuff where they totally ignored the original names was pretty cringe.
 
Keeping these in my Amazon wish list for a while just in case miraculous Vita versions are announced, and I'll at least be able to get them cheaper later.

Never played DQ7 and always wanted to. DQ games are just so perfect for mobile play, and I'd even say they're awesome for comfy couch TV play too.
 

Pancake Mix

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I'm buying it no matter what, but DQ8 getting re-localized is worrying and also completely unnecessary IMO. Use that money and manpower to localize the DQM games instead.

Sounds to me like they are just saying that the original localisation is top-notch.

Given that VII is using an alliterative title I would hazard a guess nintendo are just footing the bill and SE's preferred translators, Plus Alpha Translations are doing it. :/

SE and Nintendo have a good relationship though. To reply more to the user you yourself replied to; not a chance that new localisation job touches iOS or Android in the West this year, possibly even the next. SE has a very good relationship with Nintendo that makes this even possible. These don't rapidly jump to smartphones.
 
I can't compare the two because I never played 7 at all, but 8 is a simply fantastic game. I'd say 7 is the most enhanced because it has a completely new graphic style and is a true remake. 8 is a port with new features.

I am super excited to own 8 on my 3ds and to play it again, but the game is a known quantity. 7 will be a completely new experience for me so I am more excited for that.

If you never played 8, then if play that one, but there are going to be months in between releases and there's enough time to play both, which all RPG fans should do.
My previous post came out wrong. XD

It should have been: "It's DQ VIII in stereo 3D, because i know DQ VIII port isn't?".

Anyway, for western fans that are into the series they should try to buy both if possible because it increases the chances of a more timely port of DQ XI.

VIII looks more modern at least and with a more adventure type of feel due to the presentation. Absence of stereoscopic 3D is a big deal to me thought.
 

Osahi

Member
Dragon Quest VIII is basicly my favorite PS2-era RPG. Not sure if I'll double dip though.

But as VII never came out in Europe: how does it compare? Is it concidered a good DQ game?
 

Pancake Mix

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My previous post came out wrong. XD

It should have been: "It's DQ VIII in stereo 3D, because i know DQ VIII port isn't?".

Anyway, for western fans that are into the series they should try to buy both if possible because it increases the chances of a more timely port of DQ XI.

VIII looks more modern at least and with a more adventure type of feel due to the presentation. Absence of stereoscopic 3D is a big deal to me thought.

Yeah, I'm disappointed in the lack of 3D in VIII myself, SE stopped doing that for late 3DS games they published. I'll still gladly buy it but I love the 3D effect. Glad VII has it, but VIII looks like an even better game to me.
 
Dragon Quest VIII is basicly my favorite PS2-era RPG. Not sure if I'll double dip though.

But as VII never came out in Europe: how does it compare? Is it concidered a good DQ game?

It's good but it has pacing issues - which are apparently fixed for the 3DS version. I can't think of anything they could do that'd make it as good as VIII though
 

Psxphile

Member
The accents were tolerable in 8, but yeah, voice acting probably helped. But I was referring to how they attempt to turn every possible facet of the game into some kind of joke, from changing magic spells that sound like incantations into sounds you'd make when you sneeze ("Kerfloofle!"), to the names of towns (it was not "Swinedimples", a Harry Potter reference, in the Japanese version of 9)

Thought I read somewhere that those translations actually carry over the intent of the original attack spell names, which were primarily composed of onomatopoeia in Japan.
 

Osahi

Member
It's good but it has pacing issues - which are apparently fixed for the 3DS version. I can't think of anything they could do that'd make it as good as VIII though

I don't expect it too be as good, but I'll probably enjoy it tremendously, like I also did with DQIX.
 
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