Doug Heffernan
Member
This also means every other Rockstar game from last gen is fair game for BC.
Looking forward to finally finishing Bully.
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Red Dead Reremption is now backwards compatible on Xbox One
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This also means every other Rockstar game from last gen is fair game for BC.
Looking forward to finally finishing Bully.
It's not even officially out yet, and there's no indication of when it will be out outside a chat rep giving tidbits on a Sunday afternoon.
So yes, really. You have to be aware it's a work in progress, and to still feign dissapointment like there's no chance it will be fixed is just unnecessary and an overreaction.
mavericktopgun
Member
Please GTA4!!
Stars in your eyes online!
Stars in your eyes online!
Karak
Member
Its probably best to be clear that its even a bit different than that. It tricks the Xbox One into thinking it has a Xbox 360 inside and does NOT run faster, or do anything else like most emulators without speed limiters. Everything from the memory timing and so on are hardcoded in. Which has actually caused problems like the Kinect issue.
gaming_noob
Member
please ban conduit.
Ashes2Bashers
Member
GTA IV pleaseeeee..
LyleLanley
Banned
I would love this, I never played Bully last gen.
drotahorror
Member
Red Dead Revengeance
this one.
Backfoggen
Banned
No XB1 purchase from you then? Bummer.
does L4D2 even work anymore? I thought I heard it was taken down to not launch.
ODDI
Member
Damn just got some flashbacks there.
Negotiator
Member
Xbone Jaguar 8-core x86 CPU @ 1.75 GHz: 112 Gflops
360 Xenon 3-core CPU @ 3.2 GHz: 115 Gflops
There's a chance that SIMD-intensive code (read: VMX128) brings Jaguar down to its knees. AFAIK, they recompile PPC code to the x86 equivalent.
The Xbone GPU is stronger than the 360 GPU though (1.31 Tflops vs 240 Gflops), so it makes sense that GPU heavy segments (i.e. cutscenes) run at a steady 30fps via V-Sync easily.
Jaguar is not that bad, it's just that it wasn't designed to excel in floating point operations, hence the opcode translation will never be perfect performance-wise. That's why we have GPGPU these days.
It would be really cool if they could convert VMX128 code to GPGPU code. If that's doable, then perhaps PS3 (read: Cell SPU) emulation could be feasible as well.
360 Xenon 3-core CPU @ 3.2 GHz: 115 Gflops
There's a chance that SIMD-intensive code (read: VMX128) brings Jaguar down to its knees. AFAIK, they recompile PPC code to the x86 equivalent.
The Xbone GPU is stronger than the 360 GPU though (1.31 Tflops vs 240 Gflops), so it makes sense that GPU heavy segments (i.e. cutscenes) run at a steady 30fps via V-Sync easily.
Jaguar is not that bad, it's just that it wasn't designed to excel in floating point operations, hence the opcode translation will never be perfect performance-wise. That's why we have GPGPU these days.
It would be really cool if they could convert VMX128 code to GPGPU code. If that's doable, then perhaps PS3 (read: Cell SPU) emulation could be feasible as well.
I can't understand half of that but what I do know is that PS3 emulation is nowhere near feasible.Xbone Jaguar 8-core x86 CPU @ 1.75 GHz: 112 Gflops
360 Xenon 3-core CPU @ 3.2 GHz: 115 Gflops
There's a chance that SIMD-intensive code (read: VMX128) brings Jaguar down to its knees. AFAIK, they recompile PPC code to the x86 equivalent.
The Xbone GPU is stronger than the 360 GPU though (1.31 Tflops vs 240 Gflops), so it makes sense that GPU heavy segments (i.e. cutscenes) run at a steady 30fps via V-Sync easily.
Jaguar is not that bad, it's just that it wasn't designed to excel in floating point operations, hence the opcode translation will never be perfect performance-wise. That's why we have GPGPU these days.
It would be really cool if they could convert VMX128 code to GPGPU code. If that's doable, then perhaps PS3 (read: Cell SPU) emulation could be feasible as well.
Negotiator
Member
It's kinda tricky to emulate the Cell SPUs and the nVidia G70 GPU as well.
OG XBOX also has an nVidia GPU that makes emulation tricky, despite its x86 CPU (Pentium 3).
LyleLanley
Banned
I have been opposed to most remasters this gen but I'd be in for a copy as well.
Art Vandilay
Member
Fortune smiled upon us...
wesleyshark
Banned
Yes.
I thought that issue was more legally difficult than technically difficult.
Fox Mulder
Member
Correct. MS killed these after they leaked out. Hopefully they actually release and just aren't some games tested that still need licensing/publisher approval.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So the BC games do an online check?
Negotiator
Member
There are technical (low-level nVidia GPU code) and legal issues as well. Legal issues don't matter though when we're talking about PC emulators. Has anyone emulated OG XBOX successfully?
Microsoft was really smart to choose AMD as their GPU vendor for their 2nd console...
They killed them via a patch I believe.
arhra
Member
All digital games use online license checks primarily these days (unless you're actually offline/switch the console to offline mode).
wow everyone with an xbox one owns a copy of rdr on their 360? There aren't people that have never played it before? gonna need ur sources to confirm
Xbudz
Member
Oh it's probably because there are two Xbox One's in the house with game sharing.
My Xbox isn't my Xbox according to Microsoft.
I could switch that back or just wait.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Gotcha. Forgot it downloads the game when you put the original disc in. I assume it does a disc check like Xbox One physical games?
Live streaming some more for anyone who wants to see how it runs
https://gaming.youtube.com/user/CDRstrange/live
https://gaming.youtube.com/user/CDRstrange/live
BluePigGanon
Member
I just assumed this would never hit BC, or if it did it'd be unplayable - amazing.
wesleyshark
Banned
Played for several hours last night... It runs so well. Really great move by MS and Rockstar.
visiblemode
Member
Confused at the insane excitement over playing an emulated version of RDR2. Bring me RDR3, then I'll do backflips.
...and no need to question my RDR love, I 100%'ed Red Dead Redemption.
...and no need to question my RDR love, I 100%'ed Red Dead Redemption.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
How would you rank RDR2 versus the original RDR? I've never played that one.
AgentOtaku
Member
Really hope they officially release it soon.... It's not like they have much choice to be honest, everyone knows about it now
I don't think anyone would rank the first above the second - it didn't even review well when it originally released.
-hadouken
Member
I would have thought the same, though Tekken Tag can completely (and consistently) hang the X1 when customising certain characters (Feng for example). These games are in beta.
IcyRhythms
Member
There is probably a much better chance that there will be and RDR remaster in the next year or two than Valve announcing L4D3/HL3. *shrugs*
blue wing viper
Neo Member
Uummm....because maybe just maybe in addition to being able to play red dead redemption from the 360 he can also play next gen games on the Xbox One.
Last I checked you can't play Xbox one games on the Xbox 360. So yes I agree people need to stop trolling and wasting people's time with posts like that. Even worse are people like you trying to defend it.
My guess is you're either a disgruntled ps4 owner because Sony isn't ( or can't)provide BC for PS3 games and you guys can't do anything but troll or you truly need to look up what the definition of backwards compatibility is...
....good lord.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Fuck yes. I need to buy RDR at some point soon.
According to Major Nelson on Reddit:
"Microsoft tests all Xbox 360 games with our emulator to ensure a quality experience across a breadth of titles. Due to an error, some of the games currently in test were accidentally made available. We have since removed access to those games, and apologize for any confusion this may have caused. We will have more information on upcoming releases soon."
"Microsoft tests all Xbox 360 games with our emulator to ensure a quality experience across a breadth of titles. Due to an error, some of the games currently in test were accidentally made available. We have since removed access to those games, and apologize for any confusion this may have caused. We will have more information on upcoming releases soon."