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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)

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TheSloth

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Trevelyan

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E3 is the biggest gaming event of the year, and it's getting even bigger. What the hell are these people talking about?

The blue ocean that gobbled up the Wii? They don't watch E3 at all. Us gamers who eat everything up, we'll still buy it regardless if it shows at E3 or not, as long as they have a good line up of games scheduled for it.
 

AGITΩ

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Im still feeling so crushed by all the bad news. I woke up feeling like Christmas that we might get a smidge of an NX reveal but nope.

I can't wait to read the Q&A later tonight. I hope the investors get tough on the board.
You say this but i bet thats why they announced the two mobile games, investors care more about a mobile Nintendo than a hardware Nintendo.
 
That doesn't seem very wise after their lowest-selling home console.

It was the lowest selling home console because it did nothing to appeal to a mainstream audience. This audience is not going to give a shit if they bail on the Wii U because they don't give a shit about the Wii U. The Wii U audience is already small, so we are talking about a small percentage of an already small number who may be upset by this move, and Nintendo should for some reason worry about catering to this relatively small group at the expense of their next platform, which, they are hoping, will potentially reach a much wider audience? On what planet does this make sense?
 

mckmas8808

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Why would anyone make a distinction? Other than the handful of people at e3 (all journalists and 'hardcores') for the most part everyone is watching both shows from their computer.

Because most casual video game players at least heard of E3 and are generally aware of when it is.

Alot of those same people don't know when the random Nintendo directs hit.
 

The_Lump

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AGITΩ;202034805 said:
Im still feeling so crushed by all the bad news. I woke up feeling like Christmas that we might get a smidge of an NX reveal but nope.

Well we got a release month. That's something more than I was expecting tbh.
 

Pinky

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Its a delay of six months, dude.

Yes, I'm aware. However, I was one of those that was so CERTAIN Nintendo would show NX at E3 and launch holiday 2016. So, understandably, I'm a little shocked as many in this thread are. Nintendo always has a way of bringing the unexpected.
 
21 million people tuned in to watch E3 last year via Twitch alone. That's not what I call irrelevant. Musings by one of the most insufferably cynical journalists on the internet doesn't change that number. They don't really show up to other tech events either. Are they all irrelevant too? Please.



Here's your proof. Take a seat:
This includes Nintendo's digital event and treehouse stuff. You do realize this, yes?
 

megalowho

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21 million people tuned in to watch E3 last year via Twitch alone. That's not what I call irrelevant. Musings by one of the most insufferably cynical journalists on the internet doesn't change that number. They don't really show up to other tech events either. Are they all irrelevant too? Please.
The declining relevance of E3 is not just a Nintendo story, it's an ongoing one throughout the industry. Activision and EA have declined to book booths at the event this year as well. There's legitimate discussion to be had on the future role of the expo and its diminished importance in the eyes of publishers when multiple avenues, including direct ones, exist to better shape and control the messaging and exposure of announcements.
 
This feels insane to me, how is Nintendo gonna make money this year, does everything hinge on Sun and Moon now?

The declining relevance of E3 is not just a Nintendo story, it's an ongoing one throughout the industry. Activision and EA have declined to book booths at the event this year as well. There's legitimate discussion to be had on the future role of the expo and its diminished importance in the eyes of publishers when multiple avenues, including direct ones, exist to better shape and control the messaging and exposure of announcements.

the relevance for the Expo but not the date.
 

Nanashrew

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Is it really burning bridges if Nintendo knows most of those people will continue to support them anyway? They will never say it publicly for obvious reasons but I think Nintendo probably feels they can call the bluff of any disgruntled Wii U fan and be alright.

To be honest, I feel most Wii U owners are ready to move on from the Wii U and were just expecting this already. The system hasn't been doing well, It's been dead for a good while with some of the lowest sells imaginable. What bridges are there to burn when most have already decided to move onto their next system?
 
How are people spinning this as bad news in any way shape or form? This delaying can potentialy mean more games, better features out the box, stronger hardware. Not to mean that the console will launch at a time when there will be no other competition from sony or microsoft. All we have to do is wait.an extra 6 months. And before that time we will certainly have details concerning the hardware and concept.

Are we all just uoset because nintendo is skipping e3? They will have their own event for sure. Put money on that.

I guess im content with the wait because i have a ps4 and 3ds. But even if i didnt, the delay is for the greater good.
 

Josh5890

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Ok, lets take bets. Anyone think that March, 2017 is certain or will we see a delay to Holiday 2017? Anyone feel confident to stick with that March date?
 

Splendor

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Honestly I just like that we have some more concrete stuff to work with at this point. A release month as well of knowledge about E3 and Zelda means that we can have less of the rampant speculation that has defined NX up to this point.
 

Anth0ny

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hi everyone

nintendo here

we have a new console coming out in march of 2017. please buy it at that time.


until then, we have... nothing

so



enjoy!
 
This is terrible reasoning. 1) it shows more how Nintendo is out of touch. And 2) Nintendo directs are the definition of preaching to the choir. Gotta get that big stage annoucement so people even know what you have.

Not really.
Nintendo are slowly backing out of E3, we can see that quite easily. They're not the only company to wonder if E3 is really worth it. This doesn't mean that they're going to talk about this thing during a Nintendo Direct. They could easily do a Nintendo World style event that they've done in the past for their other console launches. These events come some time after E3 and all of the press is invited.

Nintendo World could allow them to spend as much time as they want on each announcement. It's not as bad as people think it is.
 

phanphare

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Because most casual video game players at least heard of E3 and are generally aware of when it is.

Alot of those same people don't know when the random Nintendo directs hit.

you don't really have to watch the Direct live to get the news from it. every single Direct has gotten reported on and most trend on social media for a while. for all the out of touch comments Nintendo has actually figured out the internet and adjusted to how information is disseminated in this day and age quite well, especially when compared to other video game publishers.
 

Josh5890

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How are people spinning this as bad news in any way shape or form? This delaying can potentialy mean more games, better features out the box, stronger hardware. Not to mean that the console will launch at a time when there will be no other competition from sony or microsoft. All we have to do is wait.an extra 6 months. And before that time we will certainly have details concerning the hardware and concept.

Are we all just uoset because nintendo is skipping e3? They will have their own event for sure. Put money on that.

I'm more upset that we won't find out anything at E3, which tells me it will be a while before we actually get something. These leaks are getting bad.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I can't stop thinking about the hilarity of the NX launching a full year after VR and whatever gimmick its going to have at its core.

PSVR will have been on the market for half a year at least and Nintendo is going to get up in front of everyone and talk about another "new way to play" that will have to contend with tech that transports you to another goddamned reality. Its unfathomable.
 

Calamari41

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Ok, lets take bets. Anyone think that March, 2017 is certain or will we see a delay to Holiday 2017? Anyone feel confident to stick with that March date?

Holiday 2017 would mean three solid years with only a small handful of games released for home console. There's no way they can do that.
 
I'm always floored by how doom and gloom they are about Nintendo. I mean, they're known as Nintendo fans exclusively.

To be fair I'm not sure what positive news Nintendo fans can take from today. Zelda is delayed yet again, their software lineup for 2016 looks atrocious and like they've entirely abandoned the Wii U, and fans who want new quality Nintendo products have to wait till next year from all appearances.

2016 is a rough year for Nintendo fans for sure.
 

quest

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Because most casual video game players at least heard of E3 and are generally aware of when it is.

Alot of those same people don't know when the random Nintendo directs hit.

Pretty much this they are basically sending the NX to die. Basically they are targeting the WII U audience and not trying to expand it to other gamers. It really is surreal how badly Nintendo messed this up. E3 gets covered by so much media it even ends up on 24 hour news channels.
 

Wolfie5

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Thinking about it a little more:

Delayed Zelda game. - Not surprised. When has a Zelda game not been delayed?
Don´t like that they only mention 2017 as launch, meaning it could miss the launch of NX. Should be a launch title.

Zelda confirmed for NX - Was expecting this and am glad it got confirmed. Don´t need to buy a Wii U.

Launch month and year announced (March 2017) - Suprised they announced the launch date pretty much and not even give name of the console even. I mean launch date is usually the last thing we get to know.

NX not at E3 - This suprised me as well, as I was expecting it to be there. They usually have new hardware at E3 before release and now they won´t.

Not releasing holiday 2016 - Seems the reason is not enough software for launch and I can understand that. You would want a good start for a console launch.
This could also mean, that they were not counting on a lot of third party games for launching in 2016.
 

ironcreed

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Ok, lets take bets. Anyone think that March, 2017 is certain or will we see a delay to Holiday 2017? Anyone feel confident to stick with that March date?

November 2017. But even if it is in March, I likely will not give a shit for awhile. As I will be coming off the holidays and a lot of purchases. They are missing the boat.
 
Because most casual video game players at least heard of E3 and are generally aware of when it is.

Alot of those same people don't know when the random Nintendo directs hit.

Why are we so sure about this? I see it parroted plenty but in 2016 I'm hard pressed to find the average person talking about E3 specifically. They discuss the news.
 

Schnozberry

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Hard to disagree. I think it's truly just a strategic decision to avoid what happened on Wii U and 3DS.

People can say their hype is deflated and that they care less as the console is delayed but if Nintendo comes out with guns blazing upon the NX's official reveal, I'm sure many will jump right back on board.

Could be a case of Nintendo putting all their eggs in a basket but they obviously want to excite people again and are willing to take the initial blow in order to better prepare.

There is something to be said for peaking at the right time.
 
The declining relevance of E3 is not just a Nintendo story, it's an ongoing one throughout the industry. Activision and EA have declined to book booths at the event this year as well. There's legitimate discussion to be had on the future role of the expo and its diminished importance in the eyes of publishers when multiple avenues, including direct ones, exist to better shape and control the messaging and exposure of announcements.
Yeah. E3 has huge numbers, but that's across a bunch of days with a ton of websites across multiple huge events, each of which competes with the others for mindshare. Saying e3 is big does not necessarily mean that an individual company gets more out of it than their own event would give them
 

Plum

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How are people spinning this as bad news in any way shape or form? This delaying can potentialy mean more games, better features out the box, stronger hardware. Not to mean that the console will launch at a time when there will be no other competition from sony or microsoft. All we have to do is wait.an extra 6 months. And before that time we will certainly have details concerning the hardware and concept.

Are we all just uoset because nintendo is skipping e3? They will have their own event for sure. Put money on that.

The majority of rumors are saying that the PS4.5 and maybe (since it's still an unknown) XB1-2 will either be out this Christmas or Q1 2016. Either way Nintendo's going to be competing with them. 3 months isn't exactly long for people to go from one console purchase to another.

I hope you're right about more games, but it's only a delay of 3-4 months. I'm not getting my hopes up until I see the NX and its lineup.
 
I'm always floored by how doom and gloom they are about Nintendo. I mean, they're known as Nintendo fans exclusively.

Really? I don't see much doom and gloom from them, aside from some segments with Josh Thomas who tends to bitch and moan about everything. They're usually pretty much the most nonhyperbolic outlet there is. They're certainly no NVC, who stopped knowing what they were even talking about years ago.
 

MK_768

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I can't stop thinking about the hilarity of the NX launching a full year after VR and whatever gimmick its going to have at its core.

PSVR will have been on the market for half a year at least and Nintendo is going to get up in front of everyone and talk about another "new way to play". Its unfathomable.

I gather that you assume PSVR will sell very well.

And please...lets scoff at the idea of new concepts.
 

Nanashrew

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Not really.
Nintendo are slowly backing out of E3, we can see that quite easily. They're not the only company to wonder if E3 is really worth it. This doesn't mean that they're going to talk about this thing during a Nintendo Direct. They could easily do a Nintendo World style event that they've done in the past for their other console launches. These events come some time after E3 and all of the press is invited.

Nintendo World could allow them to spend as much time as they want on each announcement. It's not as bad as people think it is.

I completely forgot about the Nintendo Store events. Their renovations also allows for bigger space and even allow for small tournaments now with that space.
 
I can't stop thinking about the hilarity of the NX launching a full year after VR and whatever gimmick its going to have at its core.

PSVR will have been on the market for half a year at least and Nintendo is going to get up in front of everyone and talk about another "new way to play" that will have to contend with tech that transports you to another goddamned reality. Its unfathomable.
You are forgetting how unproven and "gimmicky" VR is.
 

AGITΩ

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Well we got a release month. That's something more than I was expecting tbh.
But that news in itself was a disappointment, missing the big holiday shopping season in the states, and if the NX is lucky enough to score multiplatform titles that release in fall, the delay for the NX versions will hurt potential sales for those people with multiple platforms.
 

JTripper

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How are people spinning this as bad news in any way shape or form? This delaying can potentialy mean more games, better features out the box, stronger hardware. Not to mean that the console will launch at a time when there will be no other competition from sony or microsoft. All we have to do is wait.an extra 6 months. And before that time we will certainly have details concerning the hardware and concept.

Are we all just uoset because nintendo is skipping e3?
They will have their own event for sure. Put money on that.

I guess im content with the wait because i have a ps4 and 3ds. But even if i didnt, the delay is for the greater good.

Yes.

Honestly it doesn't really matter cause E3 isn't as important as it once was with so many other events in the industry now.

I think people are just worried that since Nintendo won't have any sort of presence anywhere until they decide to talk about the NX, it'll hurt them. I mean, they have nothing releasing this Fall so there goes the holiday season for them.
 
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