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[Tatsumi Oga]

Are people serious with the doom talking about Nintendo? Yes it sucks incredibly much that it will just be Zelda at E3, but maybe they have good reasons not to unveil the NX there. A event later this year solely based on the NX is not that far fetched. Of course it all remains to be seen if it's something to get excited about or not. I hope to god it is.

 

[Teletraan1]

The PS4 was revealed like 9 months before it went on sale. E3 is 9 months before their March 2017 date. I don't really understand why they aren't revealing this thing at E3. If your new console is going to be overshadowed by an updated console with better specs then it is time to get out of the game. Shows a complete lack of confidence in your product.

 

[JobenNC]

Are they not bringing that weird WiiU Paper Mario game? I was curious about that one.

 

[Calamari41]

How am I obtuse, when you're the one bringing up fights that barely happen in the game?

You're being obtuse because you pointed to dialogue at the opening as the thing that sets Zelda games apart from Souls games, even though every Souls game starts out with a narrated cutscene and is full of dialogue. You're coming at this from a very weird and troll-ish manner.

 

[KingSnake]

This meme needs to stop

Didn't NWC have like 500k viewers or I remember wrongly? Anyhow, it was the Nintendo stream with the biggest audience. No other Nintendo stream outside E3 comes close to that.

 

[JCX]

Holy shit, they have lost it.

 

[Tom Nook]

...

We all win.....

In a bad way.

 

[Turrican3]

Nintendo originally had three booths reserved at E3 2016. The press release mentions booth (in singular):

What - the - hell - happened. :-\

 

[eXistor]

This wouldn't matter as much if we just knew something. I sincerely hope Nintendo has their own event planned for later this year. They need to go all out. Honestly if Zelda is all they have for E3, I'd rather not see it at this point and wait for the NX Zelda reveal.

 

[ironcreed]

The fact that all they are showing is Zelda is one thing, but showing it on a dead console is another thing entirely. I realize that version may be further along, but still. It's just so embarrassing on the whole that this is all they have planned.

I don't care what NX is, I really don't see it reversing their fortunes. Nintendo is just too out of the loop and far behind. They won me back with the Wii U for awhile and I had high interest in NX, but at this point I am just like:

Too much else is releasing from all of the other players. In fact, more than I can handle already. The window of opportunity to sell me on their future plans is slipping away.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

One game.

A single game.

A game they will be advertising as a NX launch title, but let's not talk about the NX.

 

[pringles]

This meme needs to stop

That is so incredibly impressive /sarcasm

If Pewdiepie plays an NX game, that gives Nintendo more exposure than a day at E3 does.

E3 is big. But it's not what it used to be.

 

[GregLombardi]

Are people serious with the doom talking about Nintendo? Yes it sucks incredibly much that it will just be Zelda at E3, but maybe they have good reasons not to unveil the NX there. A event later this year solely based on the NX is not that far fetched. Of course it all remains to be seen if it's something to get excited about or not. I hope to god it is.

Even under the most ideal of circumstances, these decisions make literally 0 sense from a business perspective unless there is something absolutely MONSTROUS going on behind the scenes with EITHER Zelda or NX itself that is a positive for either of the two.

Otherwise, they are just strictly bad decisions under any scenario.

I've been watching Nintendo for enough decades to know that it is rare for Nintendo to have a true master plan in place. I'm pretty sure they are just bad decisions.

 

[Dark Cloud]

The PS4 was revealed like 9 months before it went on sale. E3 is 9 months before their March 2017 date. I don't really understand why they aren't revealing this thing at E3. If your new console is going to be overshadowed by an updated console with better specs then it is time to get out of the game. Shows a complete lack of confidence in your product.

The X1 wasn't revealed until 6 months prior to launch.

How did the Wii U at E3 2012 do? I'm sure it had the most amazing hype? Or maybe it has to do with presentation and what you as a product to show people?

 

[cheesekao]

Didn't NWC have like 500k viewers or I remember wrongly? Anyhow, it was the Nintendo stream with the biggest audience. No other Nintendo stream outside E3 comes close to that.

NWC was part of e3.

 

[GamerJM]

I still think this is kind of a last minute decision and they originally planned to have an NX blowout at E3, so I think they'll show up next year. This doesn't even make any sense. If they were only going to do Zelda they'd reserve a lot less space. Because they don't do a stage show they can just cancel whatever digital events they were going to do anyways.

 

[Dynasty8]

Calling it now. The Nintendo delusional fanboys will argue how Nintendo "won" E3 2016. It's truly sad and embarrassing.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm sure we will get news about new 3DS games soon, it'll just be for a later direct this year. I don't think it's fir to call out Nintendo on that yet.

 

[KingSnake]

NWC was part of e3.

That was my point.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Also for fuck's sake will everyone stop pretending E3 is suddenly not important because of anything Nintendo chooses not to do? It's pretty clearly still a pretty big event that a lot of people watch.

Nintendo, come on. You don't have to talk about NX if it isn't ready but you should probably talk about the Wii U and 3DS games you'll be releasing until then because right now it's hard for me to think about purchasing a Nintendo product until 2017 (because I don't know in what state they exist).

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

Even if Nintendo did not have a single game ready to show, they should have showed up. Do you know anything about partnerships with third parties? How would Nintendo build better relationship with third parties if they don´t have conference to show what games coming to their new hardware? Having a conference at E3 is also about strengthening third party relations, especially when the majority of third party games ignores Nintendo hardware.

What a reductive kind of thinking. First of all, they had problems developing the WiiU because it was an HD console. Secondly, both their handheld and their console should be more powerful than their previous iteration, which mean s larger development teams, larger budgets and larger time to develop games. They were unprepared to deal with HD in 2012, when all western developers went to the same trouble i 2006-2007. It´s not what they have to show me that is ready. It is about showing their vision of the future of their console, handheld and games. Not announcing their console prior to E3 and then showing games for said console at E3 is huge wasted opportunity. Sony and MS did the same thing. Even if Nintendo delayed the launch they should have absolutely done this. Sony did it, and we see how many delays all their games have. It´s about projecting your future vision to the consumer. But please continue to be ignorant about marketing realities, and gauging consumer interest, and of course building better relationship with third parties.

What in the living shit are you talking about? Is this just like some sort of Best Of of random Nintendo related rants? This has literally nothing to do with what you quoted.

Nintendo can only court third parties at E3 right? Multi billion dollar companies can only speak to each other and hash out hundreds of millions of dollars worth of deals backstage at a press event? How does that thing which doesn't happen affect you, as a disappointed E3 viewer who isn't privy to backstage demonstrations?

I'm done with this nonsense. You guys carry on trying to give human attributes to multi billion dollar companies.

 

[cheesekao]

That is so incredibly impressive /sarcasm

If Pewdiepie plays an NX game, that gives Nintendo more exposure than a day at E3 does.

E3 is big. But it's not what it used to be.

Show me the stats and I'll believe you.

That was my point.

Sorry but I'm not sure what your point is. Is it NWC got as many viewers as it did because it was part of the e3 period?

 

[SunBroDave]

That is so incredibly impressive /sarcasm

If Pewdiepie plays an NX game, that gives Nintendo more exposure than a day at E3 does.

E3 is big. But it's not what it used to be.

And with Nintendo's Creators program, streamers have less incentive than ever to play and promote Nintendo games. They need every marketing opportunity they can get. They are not in a position to be selective.

 

[Vena]

Yeah, they "opted" to show nothing. Like they "opted" to delay Zelda from 2016 to 2017 despite being already ready to be shown at E3.

There's not nonsensical, they don't have an NX to show now or in June. That's the true. If it's nonsensical, address that to Nintendo, they did this great planning.

The fuck are you talking about? I stated things as a matter of observation. I was addressing the idea of "having nothing to show" which is illogical to consider in the face of the reality of development cycles. Unless the NX isn't launching until 2018 because they scrapped everything, they have things they can show but they have decided not to for whatever reason they have.

 

[God Dayumm]

Holiday 2017 you mean?

Yes, and let me tell you, NX should have released like yesterday. The longer it takes the more it is going to be overshadowed by the more powerful PS4 and xbone updates.

 

[EatinOlives]

LOL

"since a company as big as NINTENDO is lessening their presence at the big show, obviously that means the big show means less now than ever"

there's no way Nintendo is in the wrong here. right? right?

"No, it is the children who are wrong"

 

[Dark Cloud]

Calling it now. The Nintendo delusional fanboys will argue how Nintendo "won" E3 2016. It's truly sad and embarrassing.

Looks like winning E3 is important to you. I never understood the whole "console fanboy" wars.

 

[-Horizon-]

Are people serious with the doom talking about Nintendo? Yes it sucks incredibly much that it will just be Zelda at E3, but maybe they have good reasons not to unveil the NX there. A event later this year solely based on the NX is not that far fetched. Of course it all remains to be seen if it's something to get excited about or not. I hope to god it is.

Nintendo status: doomed until further notice

 

[Pif]

I just hope that their archaic approach to hardware specs, online and game content changes with NX.

Never seen Nintendo so out of touch, not having anything to show this E3 is exactly what costumers wanted out of their 350€ console.

 

[Loco4Coco]

Jeez, not even pokemon sun/moon news?

 

[M_to_P]

New Nintendo is bad Nintendo

 

[_woLf]

Lol at saying e3 isn't huge anymore.

Game companies spend months trying to get e3 right. It's still just as important as it ever had been.

Nintendo 2016 will go down as the worst showing for any big company at e3 ever. What a disaster...

 

[Piers]

A event later this year solely based on the NX is not that far fetched.

Neither was unveiling it at E3, but here we are.
My bets are they'll show it next year in Spring and proceed to delay the console launch to late summer.

 

[udivision]

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

Words that will inspire generations to come.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Seems as though they originally had planned to possibly reveal the NX, but they hit some sort of development snag that delayed the console. I'm guessing there is more to the March 2017 date than simply that they wanted more games at launch and beyond.

I think there were either manufacturing issues or they went a different direction for something and don't have time to adjust before the holidays.

Hopefully it's nothing too serious because if that's the case, I'd be a little concerned about the console being half baked.

I've seen off-hand comments on a few forums about there being issues, including one here about a mix-up causing a delay in manufacturing. We also had rumors about a staggered launch not long ago. If that was ever true, it was likely due to 14nmFF yields (yes, I'm not giving up on 14nm or Polaris yet) limiting lunch supply and ultimately leading to Nintendo delaying it worldwide to maximize supply. On the other hand, the mix-up might explain a lack of units ready for E3... maybe.

 

[KingSnake]

Sorry but I'm not sure what your point is. Is it NWC got as many viewers as it did because it was part of the e3 period?

Yes. That Nintendo streams during E3 have much bigger audiences than outside E3.

 

[Jebusman]

Nintendo 2016 will go down as the worst showing for any big company at e3 ever. What a disaster...

I'll make sure to hold you to this when it's not.

 

[Ansatz]

How do you plan on justifying this?

For starters, make a MyNintendo account. This service will be central to the NX experience, notice how overly simplified the interface is, how front and centre your Mii and its cute sounds/animations are. I think people are being intentionally blind because the casual/mobile direction is against their wishes. Just take a step back and observe what Nintendo has actually been doing lately: AC Amiibos, AC home decoration spinoff, AC festival. Various experiments with f2p models on 3DS, such as the badge arcade game. Look at the recent 3D Mario with all the rabbit chasing and funny goomba outfits. The freaking theme of Tri Force Heroes is some lady robbed the kingdom of its sense of fashion and her main weapon is an umbrella, we're talking about their most "epic" franchise here. Wake up

 

[Toxi]

Nintendo 2016 will go down as the worst showing for any big company at e3 ever. What a disaster...

I think Konami has that on lock.

 

[Dynasty8]

E3 is big. But it's not what it used to be.

I'm pretty sure it's much bigger now than it's ever been.

 

[Kouriozan]

Are people serious with the doom talking about Nintendo? Yes it sucks incredibly much that it will just be Zelda at E3, but maybe they have good reasons not to unveil the NX there. A event later this year solely based on the NX is not that far fetched. Of course it all remains to be seen if it's something to get excited about or not. I hope to god it is.

I guess the problem is that Nintendo audience is shrinking really fast, and doing a separate event only the fans will watch is not going to help them.

 

[Mortemis]

lmao

Whenever they do announce plans for the NX, it better be an epic blowout.

Spoiler

Doubting tho

 

[Schnozberry]

LOL

"since a company as big as NINTENDO is lessening their presence at the big show, obviously that means the big show means less now than ever"

there's no way Nintendo is in the wrong here. right? right?

It's actually both. Nintendo should have a greater presence at E3 in an ideal world where the NX was ready, which it clearly isn't. But the long term trend is that E3 has been diminishing in importance since it's peak, and that will continue as Video Games more closely emulate the larger entertainment industry with independent events and social marketing.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Guess it's just Sony I'm looking forward to now.

 

[DragonKnight]

Doom!

 

[Menitta]

That is so incredibly impressive /sarcasm

If Pewdiepie plays an NX game, that gives Nintendo more exposure than a day at E3 does.

E3 is big. But it's not what it used to be.

THAT WAS LAST YEAR

 

[Peterc]

I don't see why they need a direct. They will host their own event when the time is right.
Don't see why an announcement should happen almost one year before the release.

Many know what happens showing tbeir games to early. They also want to be sure the idea will not be used by their competitors. I would probably do the same thing. Maybe even not showing zelda. Because it's better they show the nx version.

 

[BlackJace]

Zelda is actually all the games

 

[Finalow]

That is so incredibly impressive /sarcasm

If Pewdiepie plays an NX game, that gives Nintendo more exposure than a day at E3 does.

E3 is big. But it's not what it used to be.

ya, remember E3 in 1996 with those 100 people rounded up in a basement? That's when E3 was at his peak. /sarcasm

and that pewdiepie comment is so ridiculous that I can't even type a proper response, sorry.

 

[cheesekao]

Yes. That Nintendo streams during E3 have much bigger audiences than outside E3.

Okay, that I agree with. Livestreaming has been gaining momentum for the past few years and I'm baffled at how people can say e3 is not as relevant as it was. That's not to mention E3 2015 had its highest attendance ever since 2006.