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Blade & Soul |OT| Kiss From A Rose

No. The only thing that happens if you upgrade to a weapon that reset the gem count like the new ones is you're forced to unequip your gems, and you have to buy some more gem hammers to reopen the slot. You can't lose the gems cause you can't upgrade before removing them.

Alright, just got one and have 388 AP right now.

Is there a recommendation for what kind of weapons/accessories I should feed my equipment? Because the prices are kind of high and I'm not sure which ones are best to feed based on cost/return.

I also just have 28K HP. I wonder if there's a good Soul Shield I can get from a valor vendor since that's what I have mostly now (from the one in Hogsstead and a few BSH pieces).
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Put in a little work before work.

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I'm broke again but hey, that's how it goes. =x
 

NeOak

Member
POH6 is part of the daily challenge today

Stock up on Perfumes today if you can. Have seen them go as low as 25 silver each.
bought a few at 40s yesterday to flip them today D:, RIP

Also, let me know if you guys want MTS. I am crafting them now too.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
What set are you using to get 50K HP?

Soul Shield? I managed to get a full Yeti set from the Trove event. I just let that rock when I hit 50 and started fusing some Northern Crit shields into them. At least until I can start making my own shields to fuse (need those Skypetal Feather...)
 
Soul Shield? I managed to get a full Yeti set from the Trove event. I just let that rock when I hit 50 and started fusing some Northern Crit shields into them. At least until I can start making my own shields to fuse (need those Skypetal Feather...)

I wasn't playing during then so I didn't get anything during that time. I do have most of the BSH pieces now which puts me at about 33K.

Not sure which set to go after that.

I managed to get all my infernal accessories and a pirate bracelet to max. For the belt I just have a normal pirate one that can't be upgraded.

I guess now I should work on my weapon since it's still at True Profane and from what I've been reading it seems that the Pirate/Storm Siren/whatever path is better than Oathbreaker.
 

cHinzo

Member
I wasn't playing during then so I didn't get anything during that time. I do have most of the BSH pieces now which puts me at about 33K.

Not sure which set to go after that.

I managed to get all my infernal accessories and a pirate bracelet to max. For the belt I just have a normal pirate one that can't be upgraded.

I guess now I should work on my weapon since it's still at True Profane and from what I've been reading it seems that the Pirate/Storm Siren/whatever path is better than Oathbreaker.

The shields from Naryu Lab are also pretty good, if you can't get the Yeti/Asura shields yet. Lots of crit and a big increase of your HP.
 
I have the feeling people are underestimating the usefulness of the Plog and Brigand Soul Shield.

Brigand are really uncommon though, unless you sit in beastbog for hours farming the slow spawning bosses. Plog is pretty easy to get some pieces I guess and is fairly solid on some slots.

That said, it's still not quite as good as running dungeons and getting up to 3-4soulshield per 15-20mins, considering most soulshields require to roll the right secondary out of 3, and the higher rolls out of 3 to be perfect/near perfect.


On the question of what to feed to upgrade, for accs you can use blue accessories, the 46+ ones, they give good progress for about 40s each or whatever it was. Just search the market for blue only, 46-50, accessories, and buy whatever's the cheapest, generally 1-5s. If you have a ton of warrior tokens you don't need(as in, you already upgraded all your gear past them), you can buy enlightned blue accs from the vendor in mushin tower, they're the same but cheaper to upgrade with, although not sure if they work well past awakened oathbreaker.

For the weapon, the best was elder dragon elements during the trove event, not sure about current prices, probably still that for a little bit. You want to compare the price of those elements versus the price of transmuting(which is basically 5soulstones and 50s). If dragon elements are cheaper, buy those, otherwise transmute. If you don't have enough transmute powders things, just buy white weapons from the vendors in silverfrost, they give like 4 each. Obviously that increases the price of the elements by a few silvers. About 1/10 of the time when transmuting you'll get a dragon element also, which if it's more expensive than a normal element, you can sell for a small profit.
 

yaffi

Member
Brigand are really uncommon though, unless you sit in beastbog for hours farming the slow spawning bosses. Plog is pretty easy to get some pieces I guess and is fairly solid on some slots.

I probably got lucky with stat rolls; will post a screen later maybe.

I don't really know why, but I haven't bothered with the 3 heroic dungeons they added when the lvl 50 patch dropped.

Just did my daily stuff and gathered some Plog and Brigand pieces that way.

edit: http://eu-bns.ncsoft.com/ingame/bs/character/profile?c=Lhima&s=202

1,4,8 Naryu; 2 Plog; 3 Bloodshade; 5,6,7 Brigand.
 
I probably got lucky with stat rolls; will post a screen later maybe.

I don't really know why, but I haven't bothered with the 3 heroic dungeons they added when the lvl 50 patch dropped.

Just did my daily stuff and gathered some Plog and Brigand pieces that way.

Well they're both worse than Naryu(with good/decent rolls), so for most people they ignored these because there wasn't a point to them. Now for people who didn't have Naryu soulshield, they're a decent alternative until you can do the 50 purple dungeons. That said they're also inferior to these, so as soon as you start doing the 50dungeons, it becomes pretty pointless too.

If they were like a guaranteed drop from the boss boxes, I think they'd be a very solid advice for new players. But considering they're not even very common, nor very good, it's more like if you happen to get them while doing daillies, well might as well use them, but not really worth farming for them I think. If you want to spend time farming soulshields, you'd be better off running Naryu.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
I just saw in the acheivements that you can earn Mastery in some skills by doing certain things.

I have a long way to go...lol
 
Ran across this on Reddit.



Wonder how true this is. =x Guess those Chi Master buffs helped!

This is very incorrect. The people who did this werent even geared evenly / properly.. chi fighter is definitely almost or the worse class in terms of dmg. This has not changed when you compare it to other classes with the same gear spec.

Speaing of chi master its probably coming in the next big patch since they said "its coming" in a teasing way on the last stream. I hope so many people dont hype it up cause its flashy like WL then stop playing it in a week cause its not a broken op class. bns has no broken op classes lol but so many people hype up a new class which causes people to have unrealistic expectations of the class' utility -_-
 

NeOak

Member
This is very incorrect. The people who did this werent even geared evenly / properly.. chi fighter is definitely almost or the worse class in terms of dmg. This has not changed when you compare it to other classes with the same gear spec.

Speaing of chi master its probably coming in the next big patch since they said "its coming" in a teasing way on the last stream. I hope so many people dont hype it up cause its flashy like WL then stop playing it in a week cause its not a broken op class. bns has no broken op classes lol but so many people hype up a new class which causes people to have unrealistic expectations of the class' utility -_-

It sure as hell has shitty-to-play classes

*coughBMcoughcough*
 
I decided to try PvPing for the first time as Warlock and it was more fun than I expected. I just went in with my PvE build though so I didn't have any extra stuns or anything. Still my main combo does a surprising amount of damage when it hits. My first round I faced a Warlock and he died before I could finish the whole thing.

I assume that as I go up the ranking this will become more difficult.

And what's this I hear about a 6v6 mode? I can only choose 1v1 and 3v3.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
I decided to try PvPing for the first time as Warlock and it was more fun than I expected. I just went in with my PvE build though so I didn't have any extra stuns or anything. Still my main combo does a surprising amount of damage when it hits. My first round I faced a Warlock and he died before I could finish the whole thing.

I assume that as I go up the ranking this will become more difficult.

And what's this I hear about a 6v6 mode? I can only choose 1v1 and 3v3.

There is a specific place to windstride to for 6v6. Check your map. Should have gotten a letter/quest for it.
 
I don't think I can enter Naryu Lab yet so I'll try that Yeti/Asura stuff.

I'm at 401 AP now.

Naryu Lab is lvl 45 content. It was the last dungeon of the 45 patch, but the soulshield has way more stats than the other soulshields at 45 so it's actually competitive with lvl 50 soulshields pre asura.

If you mean you can't queue for it, you probably need to do BSH once, and then do the automatic quest to talk to the guy at the entrance or whatever.
 
There is a specific place to windstride to for 6v6. Check your map. Should have gotten a letter/quest for it.

Naryu Lab is lvl 45 content. It was the last dungeon of the 45 patch, but the soulshield has way more stats than the other soulshields at 45 so it's actually competitive with lvl 50 soulshields pre asura.

If you mean you can't queue for it, you probably need to do BSH once, and then do the automatic quest to talk to the guy at the entrance or whatever.

Maybe these are tied together since I didn't get a quest for the 6v6? I'll try completing BSH and see if that unlocks both for me.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
It is fun. Doing SSP with it isn't.

It's my main ;-;

Seems SSP with melee is just nightmare fuel. T-T

Edit: So, I tried SSP as my KFM. I'm still pretty lost in the zone but...wow. It's DBZ out there with FMs, SMNs and WLs. lol
 

s10satsu

Banned
Seems SSP with melee is just nightmare fuel. T-T

Edit: So, I tried SSP as my KFM. I'm still pretty lost in the zone but...wow. It's DBZ out there with FMs, SMNs and WLs. lol

It can be pretty rough as melee. You can tell they made the game based off 5-10ms ping and no fps drops. Sucks even worse as Des since I have to stand still for my damage. I basically can't get credit anymore on the boar if key farmers are in full force and I have 540ap and 217% crit dmg. Gonna try speccing to shadow RMB and just holding the button down while using fury lol. Warlock getting geared up slowly but surely though.

EDIT: The really scary thing though was that Hell Island thing in cinderlands they accidentally turned on a while back. Imagine Terrors that do nothing but the spin attack lol.
 
It is fun. Doing SSP with it isn't.

It's my main ;-;

Its the balance of bns =P in pve some classes are punished simply for existing, yet.. in pvp they arent punished at all ^^ fm is good for alot of pve .. but pvp is another story. The class is very viable for pvp, but it takes a very very very huge amount of study & practice lol. fm has no block, and only a few i frames. if you are good at reacting to that ice tab they have, its pretty hard to lose to fm when their ice resource is over come and you close the gap.


There is really no class in bns that can exercise 100% of bns content without being punished in some way. Well.. besides SM. but that is only until we get caught up to kr. once people are better and have lots of game knowledge they will see sm isnt as scary as it seems =V

It can be pretty rough as melee. You can tell they made the game based off 5-10ms ping and no fps drops. Sucks even worse as Des since I have to stand still for my damage. I basically can't get credit anymore on the boar if key farmers are in full force and I have 540ap and 217% crit dmg. Gonna try speccing to shadow RMB and just holding the button down while using fury lol. Warlock getting geared up slowly but surely though.

EDIT: The really scary thing though was that Hell Island thing in cinderlands they accidentally turned on a while back. Imagine Terrors that do nothing but the spin attack lol.


i remember that it was preview of the doom for melee classes it has worse fps than ssp since its so condensed in one area =V
 

cHinzo

Member
Damn Asura's dungeon is pretty fun. At least a bit of teamwork is needed to clear the dungeon, instead of mindlessly doing dps.
 

Sciel

Member
Damn Asura's dungeon is pretty fun. At least a bit of teamwork is needed to clear the dungeon, instead of mindlessly doing dps.

Yes its a good "spike" in difficulty compared to the other dungeons.
Its also one of the dungeons where I feel a summoner is sub-par and stacking them is detrimental (which is a good thing).
-Useless on first boss if doing normal method KD method.
-Unreliable CC during 2nd boss.
-Requires a lot of micromanaging during 4th boss.Our DPS also takes a huge hit since the cat ends up in defensive stance/crouching a lot (to not die/ fuckup the fire balls,etc).
 
Today was NCSOFT as a whole and tomorrow is just the game.

Edit: Where should I be in terms of stats to attempt Cold Storage?

450 should be plenty for cold storage.

On another note

Im so sick of this game's hardon for ranged classes, i have never played a game where the imbalance between ranged and melee is so big. Im at 553 AP meanwhile my buddy with his FM is at 440 AP he gets more fucking prestige then me at SSP, are you fucking kididng me. He has none of the risks but gets all the rewards. Meanwhile i get to fucking take terror aoe's to the face and have to deal with every fucking weapon.
 

Psyfer

Member
So, I stopped playing the game almost a week after it released to the public because of the queue times and the gold bots. How is the game now? Servers still over populated? Gold bots still make it impossible to use chat? Is the warlock fun in PvE?

Also, how is the end game content for PvE minded players? I like PvP, but not enough to keep playing an MMO solely for PvP, specifically when it's just arena queues all day.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
450 should be plenty for cold storage.

On another note

Im so sick of this game's hardon for ranged classes, i have never played a game where the imbalance between ranged and melee is so big. Im at 553 AP meanwhile my buddy with his FM is at 440 AP he gets more fucking prestige then me at SSP, are you fucking kididng me. He has none of the risks but gets all the rewards. Meanwhile i get to fucking take terror aoe's to the face and have to deal with every fucking weapon.

At 444 AP now as I upgraded my bracelet.

As for ranged vs. melee? Welp, I'm lvling a FM. Can't beat em, join em. =x
 

yaffi

Member
It might be time to upgrade those weapons if you're still behind at all. Weapon Path Changes. It looks like our extension on siren and pirate are coming to an end.

I don't know if I really understand that. I'm on Awakened Pirate, so I should still be able to get to True Pirate after the patch I guess? And after that it's Breeze anyway.
 

ShinMaruku

Member
Force Masters scale in a way no other class but Assassins scale. Matter of fact they both have similar scaling and attack speed increase. They are awesome.
 

tatsuki

Member
I don't know if I really understand that. I'm on Awakened Pirate, so I should still be able to get to True Pirate after the patch I guess? And after that it's Breeze anyway.

Yes, You'll be fine. It's mainly the people who are still in siren or profane who will be effected. They'll be forced to go the oathbreaker path which will cost them more.

I'm doing the oathbreaker path on my alt blade dancer right now(true oathbreaker 10). The materials needed are easier but the cost isn't. I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have 4 characters that are able to do all the new content. It lets me make up the cost much quicker and the bright white lycan lynblade is pretty nice.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Yes, You'll be fine. It's mainly the people who are still in siren or profane who will be effected. They'll be forced to go the oathbreaker path which will cost them more.

I'm doing the oathbreaker path on my alt blade dancer right now(true oathbreaker 10). The materials needed are easier but the cost isn't. I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have 4 characters that are able to do all the new content. It lets me make up the cost much quicker and the bright white lycan lynblade is pretty nice.

So, I'm on Awakened Siren Stage 10. Should I just wait it out or try to upgrade to Pirate before this goes through? I honestly don't know at this point. lol
 
So, I'm on Awakened Siren Stage 10. Should I just wait it out or try to upgrade to Pirate before this goes through? I honestly don't know at this point. lol

Yes even with this so called reduction event they have planned pirate will still be much much cheaper. Everyone in my clan who has gone oath path has regretted it so far.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
They dropped a RNG box today. With premium it's 65% off making them pretty cheap. I guess overall community progression is pretty bad with all of these RNG boxes and upcoming event.
 

NeOak

Member
They dropped a RNG box today. With premium it's 65% off making them pretty cheap. I guess overall community progression is pretty bad with all of these RNG boxes and upcoming event.
Yeah, they will have to pretty much make it really easy to upgrade if they want us to catch up with KR.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Yeah, they will have to pretty much make it really easy to upgrade if they want us to catch up with KR.

Yeah but man. The community is so harsh right now. Game has its problems, but RNG boxes, events and other shit aren't one of them. Everyone in chat, on forums, etc are insane right now. If you hate the game so much, stop playing. T-T Trying to enjoy punching people here.

Edit: That said, I can't help but think that NCSoft would get better reaction if they just halved all progression costs until we caught up.
 

cHinzo

Member
Pretty good day today. Got HM Volume 2 dropped at 4 man Necro, tons of stingers during the purple dungeon runs and got a max crit Asura 8 piece. :D

I do wish they lowered the upgrade costs though. Other regions had a lot of time to farm, while NCWest pumps out content so quickly here in the west. Getting moonstones is also shit and u still need a lot of em. :/ Hopefully I can get upgrade to True Breeze next week.
 
Its interesting someone mentioned melee vs ranged. The new class coming to NA Qi Fighter actually has the worse dps of any class. In pve its very underwhelming =V Most of its dmg comes from its melee side despite being half fm(arguably strongest class dps wise) and it doesnt even have good party support. It cant tank due to no threat gen spec, no buffs or anything, just self buffs and a heal that isnt useful when the party is decent to good.

Basically it brings nothing to the table. Any other class can do what QF does but better -.- It just adds to the whole if you are melee you are screwed, even if your class is half fm, because its melee its still bad.

And for added lols the 10th class is rumored to be a gunner class for more ranged favoritism. Its not confirmed but they did confirm the 10th class is not a hybrid at all, it is brand new, and its a class the community has been begging for since launch. Idk about anyone else but 9 times out of 10 I see people asking for a gun wielding class. There was one in alpha trailers of the game, and the flashy soha / master gun school guy stuff is what really pushed people to ask for it.
 

NeOak

Member
welp MTS and STS jumped in price.

In other news, Moonstones are dropping by around 30%, Moonwater Quartz went up around 70% so far.
 

cHinzo

Member
welp MTS and STS jumped in price.

In other news, Moonstones are dropping by around 30%, Moonwater Quartz went up around 70% so far.

Any reason why? Like damn, 17g here on EU for one Silverfrost Transformation Stone. >_> MTS are also back up to almost 7g.
 

tatsuki

Member
FINALLY! After about 50+ runs pirate princess finally dropped during my daily challenge quest today. The bid went up to 13g before the other person passed. Poor quality because gedosato stopped working for me again.
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Sciel

Member
Yeah but man. The community is so harsh right now. Game has its problems, but RNG boxes, events and other shit aren't one of them. Everyone in chat, on forums, etc are insane right now. If you hate the game so much, stop playing. T-T Trying to enjoy punching people here.

Edit: That said, I can't help but think that NCSoft would get better reaction if they just halved all progression costs until we caught up.
It's because NCWest just seem to be run by idiots.

Let me just give an example:

-The community is still very salty about the trove event (which ended one week ago!)
-The community is very annoyed at the maintenance(s) that were performed for two days on the trot.
-The community is told by a CM on forum that there will be no "visible changes" to the game due to the maintenance/patch.

What happens then?

.....They stealth implement a new RNG box. Then put a hairstyle (which should have been available from e-fleet wheel of fortune) and a costume behind this rng box. All thats written in their patch notes is "Routine Server Maintenance".

Don't get me wrong, despite the grind the game is immensely enjoyable. I am a Rank 9 Member (almost Rank 10). However, Between this, and their inability to deal with SSP botters/hackers; Its making it really really difficult to support them.
 
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