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[mrmickfran]

He's 18 years old ffs.

He should know that this shit is petty

how are you people defending this

 

[Dmax3901]

This made me feel all warm and fuzzy, but it also made me wanna get into streaming.

 

[EatinOlives]

The video actually makes me happy, since the people who were absolutely shocked at the donations actually stayed happy with the cash instead of fucked over by the asshole trying to prank them.

At the very least the asshole trying to prank them can rest easy that the people he donated to are super happy.

 

[JSoup]

The YouTube FAQ page literally says "Fan Funding voluntary payments are non-refundable"

That literally means nothing. Any channel that says "I've set up my whatever so you can't get your money back" is dreaming. If a bank says "we're denying this charge", you're pretty much SOL unless you really want to sue a bank.

 

[CyanideFuse]

Come on man, the kid is underage and just an internet troll with a lot of money. Let's not exaggerate what he's done.

I assume you did not know he was 18 when posting this?

What he did had a level of thought seeing as he attempted a chargeback so far down the line. I dread to think what he could develop into...

It is odd that some people think 18 isn't old enough to know better and be mature enough. At that age I had a job that held a fair bit of responsibility within an IT department.

Are people these days just younger in their mentality?

 

[charsace]

What a dumb ass. He's gonna need a scholarship to get into college. If his parents don't kill him.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Also it's great to see the "pranks" of today are these horrible "donation pranks" and "swatting" absolutely disgusting.

What ever happened to ding and ditch?

 

[Tarin02543]

He's still eating well, according to his Twitter feed

 

[Bobs Big Boy]

She actually said they're meant to die and then talked about how it's related to genetic disorders not getting caught. That's just a little bit different than saying they deserve to die

Semantics. She can fuck off.

No child deserves or is meant to die.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Serious question, what does your credit score have to be to have a ~50 THOUSAND dollar credit line or possibly more...I think he did this in cash...I dont think he has any debt from this...

The only way this kid/young adult has 50k in credit is across more than a dozen credit cards because I doubt he has good enough credit to do it over a few at his age so Unlikely, or with a centurion card or a black card and let's face it you have to spend a minimum of 250,000 dollars yearly to qualify for one of those, and if he can do that well this is a raindrop in the ocean for him...

I think this guy/younger adult and his family are financially well off to begin with or at least he was...

Yeah. I know some people have ridiculous credit limits but 50k? Unless he is using a business account or something.

 

[gcubed]

He's 18 years old ffs.

He should know that this shit is petty

how are you people defending this

No idea, bunch of excuses for an adult.

 

[mcz117chief]

Also it's great to see the "pranks" of today are these horrible "donation pranks" and "swatting" absolutely disgusting.

Honestly, if all "donation pranks" end up just like this one then all I can say is prank away!

 

[Dennis]

Great prank.

Is his name Ethan Bradberry?

 

[trixx]

He's an idiot but if I was one of the streamers i'd return the money. I just wouldn't feel to good about getting money that way

There's some sort of ethic that I employ in the money I earn

 

[Aselith]

He's an idiot but if I was one of the streamers i'd return the money. I just wouldn't feel to good about getting money that way

There's some sort of ethic that I employ in the money I earn

I would feel great about taking money from an asshole that tried to emotionally wreck me as a prank.

 

[iceatcs]

I would feel great about taking money from an asshole that tried to emotionally wreck me as a prank.

I will sent all to the charity.
Mental health group or something like that.

 

[SprachBrooks]

Lol, dumbass. Free money to the Twitch streamers as well.

Unfortunately because the consequences are not felt as he is so rich, there's no lesson for him here; only a lesson to other would-be trolls.

 

[spwolf]

I assume you did not know he was 18 when posting this?

What he did had a level of thought seeing as he attempted a chargeback so far down the line. I dread to think what he could develop into...

It is odd that some people think 18 isn't old enough to know better and be mature enough. At that age I had a job that held a fair bit of responsibility within an IT department.

Are people these days just younger in their mentality?

he will learn now.

For all the flak that Paypal gets sometimes, they stand behind vendors and they are only cc processor that I know that investigates charge backs, everyone else simply does charge back on request right away. So basically Paypal asked some twitch streamers to provide feedback, they did and hence charge back denied. You can not get charge back because you changed your mind, and they have your IP address logged too so you cant claim fradulent use.

Let him learn the hard way how stupid he is. Hopefully it is a wakeup call for his parents.

 

[LastCupOfSorrow]

Kid looks like an aborted Nick Cave, lol. Glad he had to pay out in the end!

 

[Tigress]

Semantics. She can fuck off.

No child deserves or is meant to die.

No, it's not semantics. You are twisting the words when you say she was saying they deserve to die. She's not saying they should die. She's saying they are fated to die and yes there is a difference. One says you want them to die. The other says it is a fact of life that they are going to die and there isn't an implication on whether you like that fact or not by the statement. You can hate the fact they are going to die and still say they are meant to die and not have he two sentiments conflict.

 

[Tigress]

He's an idiot but if I was one of the streamers i'd return the money. I just wouldn't feel to good about getting money that way

There's some sort of ethic that I employ in the money I earn

I would too. I'd figure he isn't getting all that money back (as I'm sure not everyone will be as nice) and unless he is a complete moron this whole thing will scare him enough to teach him a lesson. So me refunding it won't let him get off scott free. And at that point I'd feel sorry for him honestly (50k would ruin me and I think it's overly harsh for the crime done. Personally if I were to set punishment I'd make him pay all the chargeback fees and do public service on top of that).

 

[thelatestmodel]

He's 18 years old ffs.

He should know that this shit is petty

how are you people defending this

Exactly, he's an adult. Harsh lesson but he has to take responsibility.

 

[Darryl M R]

No, it's not semantics. You are twisting the words when you say she was saying they deserve to die. She's not saying they should die. She's saying they are fated to die and yes there is a difference. One says you want them to die. The other says it is a fact of life that they are going to die and there isn't an implication on whether you like that fact or not by the statement. You can hate the fact they are going to die and still say they are meant to die and not have he two sentiments conflict.

"They are meant to die" is her exact wording. She words it as if it is a 100% fact that all children with cancer will die because of their cancer.

She seems pretty trash, but I don't follow streamers.


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Also if this guy is older than 18 then screw him; but if he is even a day younger than 18 then I would argue that he is still protected as a child. Of course this is an age cut-off based on my American point of view. I'm not sure if Australia considers individuals "adults" at the age of 16. Whether or not he is a dbag.

Edit: Charge backs needs to be funded by banks and then have the costs move over to the card holder if they believe there is any foul play.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Kids lucky he didn't try and chargeback against sony

 

[Falk]

He's an idiot but if I was one of the streamers i'd return the money. I just wouldn't feel to good about getting money that way

There's some sort of ethic that I employ in the money I earn

There has to be some middle ground. Like getting him to stream then tipping his stream back.

$50

Should be good enough.

 

[la_briola]

There has to be some middle ground. Like getting him to stream then tipping his stream back.

$50

Should be good enough.

Nah, a sub will do just fine, hell... a follow is more than enough.

 

[FeelTheKick]

If I'm not mistaken then this guy even donated during charity streams only to charge it back later. Fuck him.

 

[Seik]

Holy shit...wow!

Serves him right though, don't fuck with people like that.

 

[Neverwinter27]

I would just give him back $1

 

[Eidan]

I will sent all to the charity.
Mental health group or something like that.

Pfft. I'd use that money to go on a sweet vacation. Maybe Thailand.

 

[Maxey]

Good.

"Troll" culture needs to fuck off and die.

 

[Joey Ravn]

He's 18 years old ffs.

He should know that this shit is petty

how are you people defending this

It's because the target of this "prank" was a group of popular (for better or worse) Twitch streamers. So inevitably some people will say something in the lines of "I don't like what this dude did, but...".

It always happens when there are some bad news regarding a polarizing figure. I'm really not surprised at all that someone could ever try to justify or at least excuse this type of behavior. It's expected at this point.

 

[TalonJH]

He's an idiot but if I was one of the streamers i'd return the money. I just wouldn't feel to good about getting money that way

There's some sort of ethic that I employ in the money I earn

I would feel great about taking money from an asshole that tried to emotionally wreck me as a prank.

He tried to destroy them and it's more than just emotional. He waited a month in hopes that they would spend it. If the steamer used any of that money, they have to pay that back including fees.

Imagine a school getting donated $10,000 for a new computer lab. They spend the money and a month later the person ask for the money back. The school is now $10,000 in the home not including any money they may have put toward the project.

 

[nkarafo]

Lets look at some things here.

He is 18. I was in Iraq at 18, so don't even try the "he's just a kid" card.

He waited a month to attempt the charge back in hopes that these streamers would have already spent the money and he could fuck them over. Stand up guy there.

He stole a credit card from him parents unless its his. We don't know that part of this.

He puts this on youtube trying to benefit from other people's demise. Again, what a stand up guy and a valuable member of society.

I say fuck him. There are consequences to your actions. His action was to try and ruin other people's lives and to grow his channel in the process. Fuck him, there should be no charge back, he should be $50,000 in debt. The streamers shouldn't have to pay back shit. They did nothing wrong.

If it was his money, i would agree. But thing is that this probably will ruin the life of his parents instead. Unless they are super rich or something.

 

[BobTheFork]

If it was his money, i would agree. But thing is that this probably will ruin the life of his parents instead. Unless they are super rich or something.

It's been pointed out already that there are many, many indicators that this is a drop in the pond to him or his parents. Even if it did ruin his parents, why would that change how someone feels about him?

 

[Sir Abacus]

If it was his money, i would agree. But thing is that this probably will ruin the life of his parents instead. Unless they are super rich or something.

You don't have a $50,000 limit on your credit card by being poor.

 

[Htown]

He's an idiot but if I was one of the streamers i'd return the money. I just wouldn't feel to good about getting money that way

There's some sort of ethic that I employ in the money I earn

So, he's the one who tried to ruin all these people financially, but he's just "an idiot" and the intended victims are the ones who don't have ethics?

You have a really twisted outlook on things.

 

[Nipo]

Oh man. This is glorious. He basically screwed his financial life for good over a prank.

Nah just the next 7 years. PayPal will bill him, he'll default and it will go to debt collection. He'll declare bankruptcy and it will get removed in 7-9 years.

 

[NHarmonic.]

That's a lot of money. He should be able to get it back. Sure he was a dick, but he's a kid.

Hardly a kid at 18.

 

[Haunted]

Schadenfreude, karma, actions have consequences, lesson learned hopefully etc. etc.

 

[-duskdoll-]

He tried to destroy them and it's more than just emotional. He waited a month in hopes that they would spend it. If the steamer used any of that money, they have to pay that back including fees.

Yep, the guy's an asshole.

 

[Velcro Fly]

hard to be upset at this

sometimes things unfold in this world exactly as they should

 

[trixx]

He tried to destroy them and it's more than just emotional. He waited a month in hopes that they would spend it. If the steamer used any of that money, they have to pay that back including fees.

Imagine a school getting donated $10,000 for a new computer lab. They spend the money and a month later the person ask for the money back. The school is now $10,000 in the home not including any money they may have put toward the project.

Oh okay I didn't know this is how he did it. I thought he dontated x amount then a short period thereafter did a chargeback.

I don't understand the thought process of doing that as a joke. There might be some credence to the studies that say most internet trolls are a bit off.
It shouldn't even be possible. There should be a time period for charge-back/refunds or whatever

Also I have no qualms against the streamers spending the money the idiot deserves it. I never blamed the streamers once. If I were in the position of the streamers and I still had the money or part of it I'd return it. That's just me.

 

[chogidogs]

I don't understand the thought process of doing that as a joke. There might be some credence to the studies that say most internet trolls are a bit off.

I'm pretty sure this guy was not doing this as a "joke."

 

[Maximus P]

Reading more into it im amazed by a few things here.

1) This young chap has access to 50k

2) Twitch allow huge donations of this kind despite the ramifications of what has been highlighted in this thread ie. Chargeback fees + trolls

3) Paypal refused the chargeback despite the card not belonging to him (surely his parents could process this if their son spent the money without their knowing?)

4) Twitch streaming can make people rich.

 

[opie211]

This happened back in January. Why are people only now making a big deal out of it? If he did the charge back a month after donating wouldn't we have heard about this back in February?

 

[_Legacy_]

That's a lot of money, glad the streamers got to keep it.

 

[KillerIsJed]

This is good news that people get to keep it. This has happened before and endly differently, fucking over a lot of nice streamers.

 

[oni-link]

I hope that:

a) The streamers get to keep the money

b) The kid is from a family that is well off enough to not have this ruin them forever

c) The kid learns a lesson and stops being the kind of asshole that does things like this, and hopefully does something positive from the back of this

 

[TalonJH]

Reading more into it im amazed by a few things here.

1) This young chap has access to 50k

2) Twitch allow huge donations of this kind despite the ramifications of what has been highlighted in this thread ie. Chargeback fees + trolls

3) Paypal refused the chargeback despite the card not belonging to him (surely his parents could process this if their son spent the money without their knowing?)

4) Twitch streaming can make people rich.

1) His Twitter has him posting pictures of thousands of dollars that he's won in casinos and talks about his frustration with them carding him. He also talks about how he could afford a Ferrari but it's dumb to put money into something that just loses value over time. He has money.

2) Twitch does not handle donation like YouTube Fan Funding does. You take your donations through 3rd party apps that basically just allow you to take PayPal transactionn without giving away all your personal information(there have been times where people have done donations to get the streamers address to send a SWAT team to their house by making prank calls to the streamers local law enforcement) Twitch really isn't involved.

3) His PayPal account is verified meaning the card holder him or maybe his parents went through the verification process(I have a verified account as well)

4) it's very hard to get rich steaming. Some people do make a living doing it but they stream every day and put a lot into it. You can't really just have it as a side thing and do well.