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The Technomancer |OT| Get your ass to Mars!

I think Mad Max is a pretty bad ass game, actually. But opinions of course vary.

I was excited for Mad Max, and played through it all. It didn't do a ton for me, like some others, though, because it was so repetitive and slow. Like Just Cause 2 got in its later stages, it was more about doing random stuff (that we'd done 1000 times before) than anything story-related, in order to progress.

I won't lie about the fact that I got bored and wanted it to end well before it did. It's a shame, too, because it could have been a lot better.
 

thequestion

Member
This game has piqued my interest....but full price... If this game was $40, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

For those who are playing it, how are the choices? Do they have satisfying consequences? Are there romances ala mass effect?
 

Stiler

Member
Finally a little freetime to dive in and I'm already stuck lol.

When doing the rogue training near the start (On pc) it asks me to perform a thrust...and for the button prompt it says []: wtf button is this? I have tried every-single attack button I know of, mouse, space, left control, none of them do it.
 

GavinUK86

Member
It's pretty enjoyable so far. I'm a an hour or so in. Not getting great performance on PC. Regularly below 60FPS with a 970 at 1080p with everything on maximum. Considering how it looks, visually, it's surprising.

Finally a little freetime to dive in and I'm already stuck lol.

When doing the rogue training near the start (On pc) it asks me to perform a thrust...and for the button prompt it says []: wtf button is this? I have tried every-single attack button I know of, mouse, space, left control, none of them do it.

Have you tried remapping the controls?
 

Stiler

Member
It's pretty enjoyable so far. I'm a an hour or so in. Not getting great performance on PC. Regularly below 60FPS with a 970 at 1080p with everything on maximum. Considering how it looks, visually, it's surprising.



Have you tried remapping the controls?

Yes, I remapped the secondary attack to right mouse and moved the dodge from there to space.
 
Is the jank comparable to the eurojank gems of last gen i.e; Risen, Two Worlds, Divinity etc? If so I'm definitely in cause I love me some eurojank RPGs. Even if not still almost certainly in anyway lol.
 

Stiler

Member
I made a performance thread for any PC gamers here.



Did remapping them fix your problem or you still stuck?

I had remapped them before hand. I ended up reseting them to default and it allowed me to pass.

It seems it's a bug that if you remap the controls you can not pass these training events, even though it asks you to do a move, if you do that move while it's re-bound to another key it doesn't register it so you're stuck unless you reset them to default keys, then it recognizes it and allows you to continue.
 

GavinUK86

Member
I had remapped them before hand. I ended up reseting them to default and it allowed me to pass.

It seems it's a bug that if you remap the controls you can not pass these training events, even though it asks you to do a move, if you do that move while it's re-bound to another key it doesn't register it so you're stuck unless you reset them to default keys, then it recognizes it and allows you to continue.

Ohhhh. I've had that happen in other games before. Weird.
 

Orca

Member
I had one concern about the combat from the IGN review...and for those that have played it ...

IGN says no matter how good you are combat never reaches a flow where you get better...that battles seem more luck and random. I love difficult games...but only when with practice and skill I can feel like a bad ass. Witcher 1 on hard was amazing because once you put the time into it you destroyed people, but one mistake could still mess you up. Anyone who has played the game, do you really never reach a point where combat feels natural, or by the end are you still randomly getting killed and finding combat difficult in an unfair way?

I disagree. I found a flow with the staff, which I used through most of the game after experimenting early on with both dagger and shield. It depends on the enemy, but I found I could open with one or two light attacks, then a heavy stun/knockback one, then either a light attack or the AoE sweep if there was the chance to hit multiple targets. After that I'd try one light attack, depending on the enemy state - if they were starting an attack I'd roll away, then start the chain again.

Enemies with rifles and no melee option were a little different. A much bigger focus on avoiding with rolls and trying to get the shock state off a light attack so I could open up.

Edit - should mention that I LOVE the Achievement messages being kind of snarky
 

GavinUK86

Member
I dumped a lot of points into technomancy and powers and the staff and I haven;t really found fights too difficult.
 

Stiler

Member
Am I missing something or is there no way to fight with your fists? There are skills that bring it up, the power tree has an "electric fist" ability and one of the base skills says "Lets you use gloves" however I can't seem to figure out how to actually use them instead of the staff/shield/dagger.

Or is it simply a single attack on a cooldown and not an actual fighting style?

Also regarding combat, I am enjoying it.

It's a lot more involved then most regular rpgs. You actually need to dodge or block attacks and I'm glad to see that the different weapon styles have different dodges and things. From the rogues "roll" (whcih looks absurd to me and always will lol) to the staff's flashy somersault kicks and the shields quick-steps.

If you try to just button mash you're going to get hit and going to lose a lot, you have got to be wary, the enemies have tells when they are going ot attack so you just got to dodge these, block them, or if you're quick enough disrupt them and hit them.
 
Honest to god the ACG review is almost making me ignore the reviews in general. I don't think I've ever seen such an in-depth video review that while being negative still told me enough to make my own decision.

Wish this was cheaper on PS4 so I'll still wait for a sale of some sort before I buy it.
 

Riddler

Member
Is the jank comparable to the eurojank gems of last gen i.e; Risen, Two Worlds, Divinity etc? If so I'm definitely in cause I love me some eurojank RPGs. Even if not still almost certainly in anyway lol.

Oh it's got the eurojank you love. Especially when you goto the slums for the first time. Paid $60 for it and no regrets.
 

Karak

Member
Honest to god the ACG review is almost making me ignore the reviews in general. I don't think I've ever seen such an in-depth video review that while being negative still told me enough to make my own decision.

Wish this was cheaper on PS4 so I'll still wait for a sale of some sort before I buy it.

Thanks man I am glad you liked my review! I may not be for everyone but i try hard to make sure that people understand my reasoning for everything.
 

eloxx

Member
This game has piqued my interest....but full price... If this game was $40, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

For those who are playing it, how are the choices? Do they have satisfying consequences? Are there romances ala mass effect?

There are romances. Not quite sure how to engage in them though (have played about 10 hours).

The consequences so far are also interesting. Its not that the whole world falls apart, but its nice to see that I have impact on the world/characters. Obviously I dont want to spoil anything.

I still really enjoy the game. I started Dragon Age:Inquistion but then switched to this. Its alot more fun.

Also that overlay map feature. So useful! Can't remember that any game besides Diablo 2 and 3 have something like that.
 

DZ_b_EZ

Member
Yeah this wasn't for me. At all. Turned it off after the first hour and got a refund.

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DZ_b_EZ

Member
Also off topic but.........

HOLY SHIT I'M A MEMBER NOW!!!! WOOOOOO!!
Can't wait to get my hands on the game when ever I can.

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Karak

Member
There are romances. Not quite sure how to engage in them though (have played about 10 hours).

The consequences so far are also interesting. Its not that the whole world falls apart, but its nice to see that I have impact on the world/characters. Obviously I dont want to spoil anything.

I still really enjoy the game. I started Dragon Age:Inquistion but then switched to this. Its alot more fun.

Also that overlay map feature. So useful! Can't remember that any game besides Diablo 2 and 3 have something like that.
Ya I discussed this a bit in my review the internal party politics and overall way in whcih you interact and change them is much more in depth than what I ever expected.
 

eloxx

Member
Ya I discussed this a bit in my review the internal party politics and overall way in whcih you interact and change them is much more in depth than what I ever expected.

Gotta check out that review. I hope its spoiler-free.

And I agree. I like how party members can turn against you or just straight out leave.

Also a hint for everyone that just started out: There are Points of no Return. The one that I encountered was not that obvious, so keep that in mind.
 
Thanks man I am glad you liked my review! I may not be for everyone but i try hard to make sure that people understand my reasoning for everything.
Karak, my man, you put together the most well thought, informative, no bullshit reviews I have come across. On top of that, you're witty as hell, so there's that too. You've got a real gift there, keep at it.
 
Kara, my man, you put together the most well thought, informative, no bullshit reviews I have come across. On top of that, you're witty as hell, so there's that too. You've got a real gift there, keep at it.
Let me double down on this. The ign video review of the same title didn't tell me anything besides that the guy didn't like the game so 5/10. Yours was extremely in depth and you went over everything with such detail, both positives and negatives, that I came so informed over it I could make a decision just based on the footage and your comments.

My decision is still to wait on a sale on ps4, following your advice as I was already considering that.
 

bati

Member
Eurojank is one of my favourite RPG sub-genre's also: Divinity DKS, Risen and Two Worlds... hidden gems all day.

Same here. I'm about to dive into Technomancer (LOVED Mars: War Logs btw) and I have two questions - is highest difficulty manageable (I'm pretty comfortable with 3rd person action rpgs such as Witcher, which I played on higest difficulty) and for those of you who have finished - how long is the game? If I remember correctly Mars: War Logs was around 20h and it felt a little short because I was having such a great time.
 

idonteven

Member
Same here. I'm about to dive into Technomancer (LOVED Mars: War Logs btw) and I have two questions - is highest difficulty manageable (I'm pretty comfortable with 3rd person action rpgs such as Witcher, which I played on higest difficulty) and for those of you who have finished - how long is the game? If I remember correctly Mars: War Logs was around 20h and it felt a little short because I was having such a great time.

i had a lot of problems on extreme but after like 4 hours its pretty damn easy

im 20 hours in now and still going strong,i still need to get the trophy for finish chapter 2 and it goes to chapter 4 with the trophies


having a LOT more fun with this game than dragon age inquisition
 

SZips

Member
Played just a couple of hours last night but early impressions are that it's far better than I was expecting. The RPG mechanics are really above and beyond. The skill trees, the talents, the dialogue skill checks (!). It's all so great to see and precisely what I needed.
 

bati

Member
i had a lot of problems on extreme but after like 4 hours its pretty damn easy

im 20 hours in now and still going strong,i still need to get the trophy for finish chapter 2 and it goes to chapter 4 with the trophies


having a LOT more fun with this game than dragon age inquisition

That's great to hear. Any thoughts on the 3 combat specs? I'll probably end up with the shield style but I wouldn't mind hearing about others.
 
I have it but haven't been able to play it yet since I have a few other games to finish but is the the main character customizable? It doesn't really bother me if they're not, I just wanted to know lol. Really hope to start it soon if I can.
 

idonteven

Member
I have it but haven't been able to play it yet since I have a few other games to finish but is the the main character customizable? It doesn't really bother me if they're not, I just wanted to know lol. Really hope to start it soon if I can.

you can but not a lot of choice
 
This is my first Spiders game and while I'm only about six hours in, I'm enjoying it so far. It has a bit of jank (Some of those animations, yuck) for sure and feels like a Bioware Game from last gen, but as a huge fan of those, I'm perfectly content with that.

Combat is okay and I'm really digging the setting and atmosphere. I've been craving a Bioware style RPG and this is doing it for me so far.
 

Karak

Member
Karak, my man, you put together the most well thought, informative, no bullshit reviews I have come across. On top of that, you're witty as hell, so there's that too. You've got a real gift there, keep at it.

My thanks man sincerely I have been trying to offer something a bit different or at least somewhat less familiar to gamers in the reviews.
Let me double down on this. The ign video review of the same title didn't tell me anything besides that the guy didn't like the game so 5/10. Yours was extremely in depth and you went over everything with such detail, both positives and negatives, that I came so informed over it I could make a decision just based on the footage and your comments.

My decision is still to wait on a sale on ps4, following your advice as I was already considering that.
Thanks as well man. Its good to hear that the information is usable to gamers like you that might just want more data but may not be chomping at the bit.

knife and pistole is the way to go ( for me at least ) found the other ones to slow
Knife is great but I went staff, then buffed it with the bounce shield lol. Throwing enemies off.

I have to say this the secondary skills within skills is great. Yes its been done sometimes in the past but here that extra step of detail let me decide if I wanted to change up ALL my battle style with a new skill, or augment something underneath and the fact that something turned out to be wickedly useful later on versus right at the start was awesome.
 

FelipeMGM

Member
Only got my review code today, played ~4 hours and Im kinda enjoying so far, but I just feel like this as every other Spiders game has a lot of unachieved potential IMO.

Combat systems are rich, and higly customizable, but combat gameplay itself is clunky and not really fully polished, the setting is great and the Mancer's background story is interesting, but main characters and the narrative itself so far are dull. Maybe that will change and get better, but its how Im feeling at this moment of the game.

Spiders is an impressive developer tho, when you think this is beeing released only 2 years after Bound By Flame (and 3 after Mars) and seems like a pretty huge game. Maybe all they need to get a critical hit game is bigger budget and more time to develop and polish their project.
 

bati

Member
Is it just me or does the main character sound like Chris Pine?

Also, is there a way to fight with gloves? I saw some talents in the technomancer tree for them.
 

Corpekata

Banned
I think the "gloves" are technically the secondary attack with the staff, the disruption move, even though you're kicking with them more often than punching.
 

Vuze

Member
Only got my review code today, played ~4 hours and Im kinda enjoying so far, but I just feel like this as every other Spiders game has a lot of unachieved potential IMO.

Combat systems are rich, and higly customizable, but combat gameplay itself is clunky and not really fully polished, the setting is great and the Mancer's background story is interesting, but main characters and the narrative itself so far are dull. Maybe that will change and get better, but its how Im feeling at this moment of the game.

Spiders is an impressive developer tho, when you think this is beeing released only 2 years after Bound By Flame (and 3 after Mars) and seems like a pretty huge game. Maybe all they need to get a critical hit game is bigger budget and more time to develop and polish their project.
Yeah, feeling the same. Combat would be ace if it was more fluid, I'm really digging the on-the-fly switching and the classes in general but meh :s
 
About 4 hours in and the game is fine. It has the eurojank but I am finding the combat pretty difficult in that it doesn't flow as well as say mad max or batman games. Side quests are actually decent but the city feels empty
 

Corpekata

Banned
The best thing about helmets is that the transition from a cinematic (where it removes them) to the less directed scenes when you suddenly get your headgear back, especially moments that heavily combine the two.

Not sure what they were thinking there.
 
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