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Pokémon Sun & Moon | Info and speculation thread

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Deleted member 231381

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So: why is Mega Sharpedo overdesigned? Well, he has about eleventy billion spikes on him. If you removed these spikes, would it significantly change the theme of his design, a play on a shark being a torpedo? No. It would, in fact, improve it, given that neither sharks nor torpedos are known for having spikes.

This is what people mean by overdesigned: it's when details unnecessary to the composition of a design are added. Gen 1 Pokemon often suffer from having boring themes - Golden is literally a goldfish, and that's it. But they're almost never overdesigned - nobody stucks about twenty zillion spikes on Goldeen, or extra frills, tufts, stripes, bands or whatnot. So when they're not being boring, they're rather good. Diglett is clever - ridiculously simple design, but makes a neat visual allusion to the whack-a-mole games; there's something going on there, something to add that extra layer.

Gen 5 Pokemon have the other problem. There's lots of "Digletts", lots of overlapping themes - Swadloon is a larval stage insect, but the leaves form the impression of baby swaddling, as befits a larvae/child. That's great, that's clever. I really like it, it's one of those designs that gets overlooked because it doesn't have the Lucario cool factor or whatever but just has quietly good design you don't notice until it is missing. But, say, Beartic? Why does it have that crotch fuzz? What did that add to the design? Why does Swanna have the earmuffs either side of the head? What did that do?

So I think "overdesign" criticisms are definitely pertinent to Pokemon as a series, and they're something that definitely affects the later generations, especially Gen 5. This isn't to say that Gen 5 doesn't have some great designs - it absolutely does, just when they're not great, the fault is usually overdesign. Conversely "boringness/blandness" criticisms are definitely pertinent to the earlier generations. Again, not to say that Gen 1 doesn't have some great designs, but when they're not great, the problem is that the Pokemon in question is literally just a drawing of X animal with nothing visually distinguishing.

If we're looking at Megalutions specifically... the vast majority of them have waaaay too much going on. Not all - Mega Camerupt is clever, as you can see Camerupt's powering up caused the volcano to erupt, which visually creates a sort of shag that you see in real life bactrian camels. But sadly, that's a minority of Megas. Most can be summed up as "added an extra spike or three" - even Mega Charizard Y fits into this category.
 

AetherZX

Member
For the most part, Mega Sharpedo's nose spikes aren't even visible during gameplay and just ends up looking like a more scarred version of the normal form as a result.
 

brinstar

Member
So: why is Mega Sharpedo overdesigned? Well, he has about eleventy billion spikes on him. If you removed these spikes, would it significantly change the theme of his design, a play on a shark being a torpedo? No. It would, in fact, improve it, given that neither sharks nor torpedos are known for having spikes.

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meet the japanese sawshark
 

Clefargle

Member
So: why is Mega Sharpedo overdesigned? Well, he has about eleventy billion spikes on him. If you removed these spikes, would it significantly change the theme of his design, a play on a shark being a torpedo? No. It would, in fact, improve it, given that neither sharks nor torpedos are known for having spikes.

This is what people mean by overdesigned: it's when details unnecessary to the composition of a design are added. Gen 1 Pokemon often suffer from having boring themes - Golden is literally a goldfish, and that's it. But they're almost never overdesigned - nobody stucks about twenty zillion spikes on Goldeen, or extra frills, tufts, stripes, bands or whatnot. So when they're not being boring, they're rather good. Diglett is clever - ridiculously simple design, but makes a neat visual allusion to the whack-a-mole games; there's something going on there, something to add that extra layer.

Gen 5 Pokemon have the other problem. There's lots of "Digletts", lots of overlapping themes - Swadloon is a larval stage insect, but the leaves form the impression of baby swaddling, as befits a larvae/child. That's great, that's clever. I really like it, it's one of those designs that gets overlooked because it doesn't have the Lucario cool factor or whatever but just has quietly good design you don't notice until it is missing. But, say, Beartic? Why does it have that crotch fuzz? What did that add to the design? Why does Swanna have the earmuffs either side of the head? What did that do?

So I think "overdesign" criticisms are definitely pertinent to Pokemon as a series, and they're something that definitely affects the later generations, especially Gen 5. This isn't to say that Gen 5 doesn't have some great designs - it absolutely does, just when they're not great, the fault is usually overdesign. Conversely "boringness/blandness" criticisms are definitely pertinent to the earlier generations. Again, not to say that Gen 1 doesn't have some great designs, but when they're not great, the problem is that the Pokemon in question is literally just a drawing of X animal with nothing visually distinguishing.

If we're looking at Megalutions specifically... the vast majority of them have waaaay too much going on. Not all - Mega Camerupt is clever, as you can see Camerupt's powering up caused the volcano to erupt, which visually creates a sort of shag that you see in real life bactrian camels. But sadly, that's a minority of Megas. Most can be summed up as "added an extra spike or three" - even Mega Charizard Y fits into this category.

There you go! Much better!
 

Macka

Member
I used a Sharpedo on my team in Alpha Sapphire, and never saw the spikes come out at all. Must be status moves or something that triggers the animation, which is really silly.

But he looks better without them, so I guess it works.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I agree and get you euphemism. It is fine not to like a design, it is when they try to reason out why, tey sometimes aren't careful and they end up assuming their stance is objective and they end up digging a deeper hole.

Hmm... still no Mimikkyu and mascotbear's English names huh.
 

GoldStarz

Member
I agree and get you euphemism. It is fine not to like a design, it is when they try to reason out why, tey sometimes aren't careful and they end up assuming their stance is objective and they end up digging a deeper hole.

Hmm... still no Mimikkyu and mascotbear's English names huh.

Not that weird, it took like how many weeks for Rockruff and Komala's names to be revealed?
 
It kinda looks like they're compensating Coro Coro for not giving them any major gameplay reveals by giving them a longer period of exclusivity for the information that they do get.

I'd expect to hear about Mimichu and Kiteruguma in a week or two, when they next upload a video with new Pokémon and gameplay details.
 

Neiteio

Member
It kinda looks like they're compensating Coro Coro for not giving them any major gameplay reveals by giving them a longer period of exclusivity for the information that they do get.

I'd expect to hear about Mimichu and Kiteruguma in a week or two, when they next upload a video with new Pokémon and gameplay details.
I don't think it has to do with the size of the reveal. But I think you're right that the delay is just to give value to the exclusive in general.

With any luck, maybe the English update with throw in an extra Pokemon, too.
 

Azuran

Banned
And no, people really do not conserve Mawile that much. Mawile is not tanky enough in base form to take enough hits for you to switch in and out to build up Intimidate, that's absolute bullshit and makes me doubt you actually do play competitive Pokemon at any kind of reasonable level. Mawile is like the definition of press Mega and go.

Yeah man, let's doubt my competitive credentendials because I said something you don't agree with. I can show you the battle points I amounted at various local events but I guess that wouldn't be good enough for you.

Newsflash, Mawile can easily spam intimidate in Doubles where she has access to Protect and doesn't have the same kind of pressure to attack as soon as she hits the field. I have seen enough official tournaments and play Battle Spot at 1800+ rating enough to call it a common tactic. Even Smogon, the so called bible of competitive Pokemon recommends using the tactic:


Maybe you should become aware of a Pokenon role in other formats before you start calling people out.

I don't care about singles when I talk about Megas because they weren't balanced at all with that format in mind. There's a huge reason why Mega Rayquaza is a broken POS on Smogon while you never see him in VGC.
 

The Adder

Banned
I agree and get you euphemism. It is fine not to like a design, it is when they try to reason out why, tey sometimes aren't careful and they end up assuming their stance is objective and they end up digging a deeper hole.

I'm still annoyed certain folks felt the need to say shit when I gave my thoughts on Druddigon, completely ignoring the post almost immediately after wherein I elaborated, and then didn't even have the spine to either apologize or argue when I elaborated even further.

Certain people don't like negative comments about Pokemon and feel the need to go off half-cocked no matter how reasoned the opinion.
 

Clefargle

Member
I'm still annoyed certain folks felt the need to say shit when I gave my thoughts on Druddigon, completely ignoring the post almost immediately after wherein I elaborated, and then didn't even have the spine to either apologize or argue when I elaborated even further.

Certain people don't like negative comments about Pokemon and feel the need to go off half-cocked no matter how reasoned the opinion.

I didn't quote you. Don't care if you don't like certain designs. Just would like to see a little more intellectual rigor around here in general. Wasn't calling out anyone intentionally and I don't walk around with game freaks dick in my mouth. I don't think any of us are of the opinion that every critique of their designs is wrong, just like the inverse is true.

Not every critique is valid, especially when they neglect to actually specify what their issues are. Their opinion may be valid, as are all opinions. But it is possible to be wrong about design criticism. For example, I saw people complaining about Brexish and Cutifly, talking out their asses saying that "GF must be running out of ideas" or "that fish looks so uninspired", while not knowing that they were in fact based on the Triggerfish and the Toratsuri abu fly respectively. In this case, the following opinion is correct:

I don't like that design

While the below criticism is objectively WRONG

That design is uninspired

That's the difference, and what I was saying I dislike in general. If you weren't doing that, then I have no qualms with you. I'm not the biggest Druddigon fan either. To be specific, I think his coloring looks a bit too plastic-ish and his wings look like cacti. But it doesn't rustle my jimmies that others do.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm still annoyed certain folks felt the need to say shit when I gave my thoughts on Druddigon, completely ignoring the post almost immediately after wherein I elaborated, and then didn't even have the spine to either apologize or argue when I elaborated even further.

Certain people don't like negative comments about Pokemon and feel the need to go off half-cocked no matter how reasoned the opinion.

I'm talking mostly about people who pretty much go into tangent about gen design due to some dislikes on few mons.
 
I'm still annoyed certain folks felt the need to say shit when I gave my thoughts on Druddigon, completely ignoring the post almost immediately after wherein I elaborated, and then didn't even have the spine to either apologize or argue when I elaborated even further.

Certain people don't like negative comments about Pokemon and feel the need to go off half-cocked no matter how reasoned the opinion.
I'll agree to this. No body has to give a full on explanation when they say "hey this Pokemon looks cool" but as soon as you don't like one...phew Betta Fitch the thread. Said bruxfish was ugly to me and boom crucified on a poke cross
 

Macka

Member
More news coming in just under three hours? I hope we get to see some new Mega Evolutions to put an end to the 'omg they're getting removed' theory.
 

Kyzer

Banned
I agree and get you euphemism. It is fine not to like a design, it is when they try to reason out why, tey sometimes aren't careful and they end up assuming their stance is objective and they end up digging a deeper hole.

Hmm... still no Mimikkyu and mascotbear's English names huh.

That's probably the news today.
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And just to stir the pot ya damn right druddigon looks like a digimon. Everyone who feels the need to go into an art theory lecture in defense about why it technically doesn't is being a little bit dense


I love Pokemon to death and I agree there are certain people that will defend absolutely anything about the franchise and do so in a way that goes out of their way to ignore the obvious points someone's making.


Like are you guys really gonna look and mega sharpedo and act like you dont know what hes saying when he says it's over designed has too many spikes? Obviously it's a damn opinion you know what the guy is saying lol
 
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Deleted member 231381

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wow, the Japanese sawshark is so overdesigned, why did nature put so many spikes on it

With respect, I was actually aware of the sawshark, and if that's the design they were trying to evoke with Mega-Sharpedo, they definitely missed the mark. Mega-Sharpedo does not look like he has a "saw" and the spikes don't look like teeth, they look like... spikes.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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I don't care about singles when I talk about Megas because they weren't balanced at all with that format in mind. There's a huge reason why Mega Rayquaza is a broken POS on Smogon while you never see him in VGC.

That's fair, actually - I didn't consider VGC; I have very little patience for Doubles. However, I do actually think using Doubles as a defence of Megas is itself not a great defence, because Doubles' position as the "official" competitive format is hugely problematic in and of itself. 95% of the trainer battles in the single-player campaign are in Singles format. 95% of additional franchise merchandising (i.e., the anime, the manga) features Singles battles, not Doubles. Doubles is hidden away in the games, to the point that casual players probably barely consider it - certainly, they're not going to know the multiplicity of differences between it and single-player (the dangers of EQ, for example). But then... Nintendo goes and makes it the main official format.

To me, that seems like a genuine and cynical choice to try and restrict the appeal of competitive Pokemon, the same way that Sakurai did re: the Smash series. I often feel like Nintendo doesn't actually want competitive iterations of their games. If this isn't the case, and Nintendo genuinely feels Doubles is a better format, then it should actually become the mainstay of the single-player campaign and the media franchising, because right now, it's just *another* barrier to participation in the competitive community. After players are effectively taught from all their exposure to the series that the main part of Pokemon is 1v1 battles, why, at the last minute, does Nintendo suddenly say "actually lel jokes on you Doubles is the important one"?
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's probably the news today.
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And just to stir the pot ya damn right druddigon looks like a digimon. Everyone who feels the need to go into an art theory lecture in defense about why it technically doesn't is being a little bit dense


I love Pokemon to death and I agree there are certain people that will defend absolutely anything about the franchise and do so in a way that goes out of their way to ignore the obvious points someone's making.


Like are you guys really gonna look and mega sharpedo and act like you dont know what hes saying when he says it's over designed has too many spikes? Obviously it's a damn opinion you know what the guy is saying lol

as a digimon fan I find it offensive though

like apparently something is lesser because "it looks like a Digimon"

man fuck America and forcing this Digimon Pokemon comparison

and no, it's not about defending, I mean if someone has a right to express their opinion, then someone else has a right to express theirs towards that, you can't just go "it's just an opinion man"
 

brinstar

Member
Like are you guys really gonna look and mega sharpedo and act like you dont know what hes saying when he says it's over designed has too many spikes? Obviously it's a damn opinion you know what the guy is saying lol

It's got six spikes that aren't even visible during gameplay until it attacks. It's literally just a more heavily scarred Sharpedo. I'm fine with critiquing a design but a lot of the critiques just feel so exaggerated a lot of the time.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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as a digimon fan I find it offensive though

like apparently something is lesser because "it looks like a Digimon"

man fuck America and forcing this Digimon Pokemon comparison

and no, it's not about defending, I mean if someone has a right to express their opinion, then someone else has a right to express theirs towards that, you can't just go "it's just an opinion man"

I don't think that looking like a Digimon is in itself an insult. It's more, people appreciate aesthetic consistency, so if something looks like a Digimon (and not a Pokemon) it is visually inconsistent with the rest of the series and therefore bad.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I don't think that looking like a Digimon is in itself an insult. It's more, people appreciate aesthetic consistency, so if something looks like a Digimon (and not a Pokemon) it is visually inconsistent with the rest of the series and therefore bad.

but then their lack of knowledge of digimon shows that even as a digimon Druddigon won't fit in
 
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Deleted member 231381

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but then their lack of knowledge of digimon shows that even as a digimon Druddigon won't fit in

No, I agree, actually. I don't think Druddigon looks like a Digimon much. It's still a rather poor design regardless, one of my least liked Pokemon.
 

Tidalwave

Member
as a digimon fan I find it offensive though

like apparently something is lesser because "it looks like a Digimon"

man fuck America and forcing this Digimon Pokemon comparison

and no, it's not about defending, I mean if someone has a right to express their opinion, then someone else has a right to express theirs towards that, you can't just go "it's just an opinion man"
This so much. Just because a design is bad doesn't make it a digimon. If it were a digimon it would probably end up looking 200% better anyways.
 

Kyzer

Banned
as a digimon fan I find it offensive though

like apparently something is lesser because "it looks like a Digimon"

man fuck America and forcing this Digimon Pokemon comparison

and no, it's not about defending, I mean if someone has a right to express their opinion, then someone else has a right to express theirs towards that, you can't just go "it's just an opinion man"

Boss doggie no offense but this America nonsense is ridiculous there's nothing exclusively American about comparing two popular monster franchises and even if you grew up in Japan on the Japanese internet with Japanese friends you still can't say you know people in Japan don't compare Pokemon and Digimon.

Also I'm a digimon fan too and I don't understand what's wrong with looking like a digimon.

You guys are being so defensive we said something that's not even negative (I like digimon) and you're presuming that it's a complaint for not liking a design. There's nothing wrong with being reminded of another set of designs. There are plenty of designs I don't like and whether or not they remind me of digimon has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's your own assumption that all the people who harken to digimon are shitting on the design.

It's got six spikes that aren't even visible during gameplay until it attacks. It's literally just a more heavily scarred Sharpedo. I'm fine with critiquing a design but a lot of the critiques just feel so exaggerated a lot of the time.

Lets not pretend Mega Sharpedo is not spiky. Lol

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I think people just need to be more mindful and discerning of the fact that critiques are not always attacks or even negative. I probably side with you guys on almost everything Im just saying trying to understand what people are talking about is critical, theres a lot of misunderstandings in the pokemon fandom because we really ARE so used to those drive by shitposters.
 

The Adder

Banned
as a digimon fan I find it offensive though

like apparently something is lesser because "it looks like a Digimon"

man fuck America and forcing this Digimon Pokemon comparison

and no, it's not about defending, I mean if someone has a right to express their opinion, then someone else has a right to express theirs towards that, you can't just go "it's just an opinion man"

My points about Druddigon

Nah. It's got the same kind of proportions Dramon type digimon are often drawn with. Plus all the hard edges. All it really needs is tattered wings and it'd be there.

Further elaborating this point (because I'm now annoyed)

Look at every single Dragon type Pokemon.

Their limbs are almost all fairly even, or their legs are emphasized over their tiny little arms.

The only exceptions to this I can think of (not counting the Dragons with no legs, who still tend to have some stubby arms) are Kyurem Black and Druddigon.

Dramon type Digimon tend to have eiher fairly even limbs, or they have long arms, legs that are stocky and short (or just illustrated in a crouched looking stance). There are far more exceptions to this aesthetic for digimon than the reverse in Pokemon, but it's still the clear majority in Dramon design aesthetic.

You know who else has stocky/crouched legs and long arms?

Druddigon.

Which is why he's the only Pokemon who has looked like a Digimon to me.

(I don't know why Kyurem black doesn't do the same for me, it might be the crystalline structure of its hard edges)

In general, actually, Digimon tend to have big hands/ams whereas Pokemon tend to de-emphasize hands/arms
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Boss doggie no offense but this America nonsense is ridiculous there's nothing exclusively American about comparing two popular monster franchises and even if you grew up in Japan on the Japanese internet with Japanese friends you still can't say you know people in Japan don't compare Pokemon and Digimon.

Also I'm a digimon fan too and I don't understand what's wrong with looking like a digimon.

You guys are being so defensive we said something that's not even negative (I like digimon) and you're presuming that it's a complaint for not liking a design. There's nothing wrong with being reminded of another set of designs. There are plenty of designs I don't like and whether or not they remind me of digimon has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's your own assumption that all the people who harken to digimon are shitting on the design.

Lets not pretend Mega Sharpedo is not spiky. Lol

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I think people just need to be more mindful and discerning of the fact that critiques are not always attacks or even negative. I probably side with you guys on almost everything Im just saying trying to understand what people are talking about is critical, theres a lot of misunderstandings in the pokemon fandom because we really ARE so used to those drive by shitposters.

Because there really isn't any comparison to them. Mons are pretty common in Japan that they aren't really "compared" so much as they know multiples of them exist.

And you're right, it's not just American - it's overseas in general that tried to market Digimon as something related to Pokemon.

And there is something wrong because it tries to apply definite aesthetics to different franchises. If you've been a fan long enough, you'd realize certain innate qualities to design that remains constant.

My points about Druddigon

In general, actually, Digimon tend to have big hands/ams whereas Pokemon tend to de-emphasize hands/arms

I dunno, if we classify Druddigon as a Digimon it would look shit. Yeah Digimon emphasizes on arms, but at the same time they also give emphasis to musculature, like you'll see veins and tendons and biceps, etc. Druddy doesn't have that. Same with the dramon lines - they tend to have a more "imposing dragon" look that gives them an organic feel to their fleshy bits.
 

The Adder

Banned
I dunno, if we classify Druddigon as a Digimon it would look shit. Yeah Digimon emphasizes on arms, but at the same time they also give emphasis to musculature, like you'll see veins and tendons and biceps, etc. Druddy doesn't have that. Same with the dramon lines - they tend to have a more "imposing dragon" look that gives them an organic feel to their fleshy bits.

I think that's a matter of artstyle more than design though.

If you drew Charizard the way you draw a Digimon, with the shading and lines that emphasize musculature, it still wouldn't look like a Digimon. It'd look like a weirdly drawn Pokemon. As I'm sure you know from first hand experience.

Druddigon, I've always felt (and I'm not saying I'm 100% correct, just that I do have an ACTUAL REASON the damn thing has always looked like a Digimon to me) is an art shift away from being right at home there. It's built like Digimon are often built, it carries itself like Digimon often carry themselves
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I think that's a matter of artstyle more than design though.

If you drew Charizard the way you draw a Digimon, with the shading and lines that emphasize musculature, it still wouldn't look like a Digimon. It'd look like a weirdly drawn Pokemon. As I'm sure you know from first hand experience.

Druddigon, I've always felt (and I'm not saying I'm 100% correct, just that I do have an ACTUAL REASON the damn thing has always looked like a Digimon to me) is an art shift away from being right at home there. It's built like Digimon are often built, it carries itself like Digimon often carry themselves

I dunno, maybe just change Charizard's face a bit, and if we apply Digimon musculature, he'd fit right in.

And I still fail to see it, the closest I can attribute it is to maybe along the lines of Drimogemon or Tyrannomon and even then I feel like it's more due to the pose than the actual physique. I honestly think it looks more like a scribble than a digimon.
 

The Adder

Banned
I dunno, maybe just change Charizard's face a bit, and if we apply Digimon musculature, he'd fit right in.

And I still fail to see it, the closest I can attribute it is to maybe along the lines of Drimogemon or Tyrannomon and even then I feel like it's more due to the pose than the actual physique. I honestly think it looks more like a scribble than a digimon.

Machinedramon is always who my mind jumps to first.

Anyways, not important. I was just expressing my annoyance with certain people throwing a fit and then not backing that shit up. You're not one of them.

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There's something about Mudsdale's color scheme I really don't care for.

Mimikyu's stats are going to be awful. Disguise is a great ability and Ghost/Fairy is a great typing. If it's good it'll be too good.

EDIT: GAH! That avatar is not right on you...
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I dunno, I thought they gave the ground color perfect, I think a bit too perfect. With that said I think it should be a bit more brown.

also ritsu is best kon
 

Durden77

Member
Will this suck on the 2DS? Wanna buy me and my girlfriend 2Des for this game but I remember X & Y running a little weird on my 3DSXL.
 

Pokemaniac

Member
Will this suck on the 2DS? Wanna buy me and my girlfriend 2Des for this game but I remember X & Y running a little weird on my 3DSXL.

It's probably not going to run significantly smoother than X and Y on Old 3DS.

New 3DS, on the other hand, has some potential for improvement.
 
As if Gamefreak cares about balancing their games.

They actually do, they just handle it in questionable ways.

For gen 6, they made a lot of good balance adjustments to the game IMO, such as buffing some preexisting Pokémon's base stats, introducing the fairy type, nerfing steel type resistances, nerfing the gen 5 dominating weather effects, giving grass types powder move immunities, adjusting some move damages and accuracy, and giving some underused species a shot in the arm with mega evolutions.

Even now, they are introducting new pokemon and abilities in Sun Moon that are clearly made to equalize competitive Pokémon, like Salandit's new ability to induce poison to steel types, and Bruxish's new ability that makes it immune to priority attacks.
 
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Deleted member 231381

Unconfirmed Member
What is stopping game freak from doing hard stat changes?

Nothing, they actually did it for gen 6. A number of Pokemon got minor stat increases, although I don't think they went anywhere near far enough.
 

R0ckman

Member
Was thinking about how Blaziken is treated, did GF really like that Pokemon? It seems like several times they tried to market it even with its first appearance in the anime (having it defeat Ash's Charizard, one of the most popular Pokemon worldwide). But it seems to have failed unlike Greninja.

I noticed that competetively once Inerfnape was on the scene it was basically pointless to choose Blaziken over Infernape, then with the dream moves they give Blaze speed boost which never made any sense to me since that typically applies to Pokemon that are clearly in constant movement like Ninjask and Yanma.

Next it was one of the first Pokemon introduced to have a Mega evo, and we were given a Torchic with XY I beleive? Also appeared in the beggining of the XY anime arc, and while I did not watch the episodes religiously, I dont think the mysterious Blaziken and his trainer appeared much and may have been dropped altogether. All of a sudden a trainer with an unstoppable Charizard X comes on the scene and has a rivalry with Ash's Greninja who is given a new form currently show exclusive. Blaziken canned again.

I'm I the only one who noticed this? Is there any actual statements or info on how GF feels about Blaziken? It seems like its the only Pokemon they continually try and fail at popularizing to major levels.
 
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