So the only attribute you can't change on an existing mon is Nature eh
I wonder if coverage Z moves will prove to be that popular. Toxic wouldn't really fit an offensive Pokemon that well so in a case like this you'd be devoting 1/4th of your moveset to a one time use move. I guess it also comes down to how strong Z moves are. Would a non-STAB Z move be able to take down a bulky fairy like Sylveon?
I meant across the whole team. It would be:
If your Charizard goes Mega, your Pikachu can't use Bloom Doom. If Pikachu uses Bloom Doom, Charizard can't go Mega.
So the only attribute you can't change on an existing mon is Nature eh
On the subject of Mega Rayquaza, anyone have a feeling they'll nerf it by making it need to hold a meteorite or something in order to M-evolve? It seems like a real big oversight on Game Freak's part that should be fixed in Sun/Moon, especially with the ability they gave it.
Many think Dark Void is a problem. Dark Void isn't a problem. If in VGC 2014 and 2015 you used a Dark Void Smeargle, you were laughed at.
It's Dark Void combined with the power of Primals.
Just because competitive players may think it doesn't mean they are right.
I doubt any Pokémon with Mega Evolutions will have Alola Forms
While I don't think they're going anywhere and I don't particularly care if they go away, hailing them as on the level of new Pokemon is such bull. The design alterations pale compared to a change that you would get from an actual evolution, their moveset is literally identical, access is item-dependent, and the form is only available during battle and can't be accessed in any other features. They're a form change, plain and simple, let's not pretend they're anything else to make a point.Contrary to what people argue, Mega Evolutions are new Pokémon in all but number and they're not going anywhere. The concept won't be reworked.
I think they'll mostly keep the same BSTs, maybe some will be slightly higher or lower.Do you guys think they'll keep all the Alola Variants with the same BST as the originals, re-distributed of course, so there's no (in theory) more "powerful" variant?
Also if they're planning to add in Megas in future Gen VII games, like DP-remakes or something, wonder if any will slip through into the code of Sun and Moon. I'd love for them to get around the problem with XY-ORAS connectivity and give all planned Megas placeholders.
Do Z-moves take up a move spot, or is it a separate mechanic?
Do Z-moves take up a move spot, or is it a separate mechanic?
I can't stand dark void personally. But as people have said it's normally because I'm running into Mega Kanga and a Darkrai at the same time. So I have to run my Espeon for the counter to Darkrai and then pray my Raichu encore set stops Kanga. It really does suck that 4 of my six pokes are simply there to counter legends/ubers.
Although I still get a huge smirk any time anyone let's me use my Golduck to take out their (bullshit) Shiny Primal Groudon.
The Abra line is rumoured to be getting an Alolan form and it has a mega.At least we can say the Pokemon with megas aren't getting Alola forms
The Abra line is rumoured to be getting an Alolan form and it has a mega.
They're different subspecies, so it'd probably only work with non-Alolan Alakazam. Which would work fine.How would that work then? Would the Alakazamite work with both?
With everyone talking Megas, I figured I'd throw my wish into the mix (though it's never gonna happen).
Make them permanent alternatives to the form they evolve from. Evolve a Charmeleon? Charizard. Evolve a Charmeleon holding Charizardite X? 'Charizard X'. It basically would be a play on Alolan forms, but with Mega's.. though I sincerely doubt it will happen, as it would also require a lot of stat reworkings.
Do Z-moves take up a move spot, or is it a separate mechanic?
I can't stand dark void personally. But as people have said it's normally because I'm running into Mega Kanga and a Darkrai at the same time. So I have to run my Espeon for the counter to Darkrai and then pray my Raichu encore set stops Kanga. It really does suck that 4 of my six pokes are simply there to counter legends/ubers.
Although I still get a huge smirk any time anyone let's me use my Golduck to take out their (bullshit) Shiny Primal Groudon.
I'd rather see a bigger variety of Pokemon as a spectator.
I think the player has 1 Mega and 1 Z Move a battle. I don't think its exclusive on usage.
waiting for them to introduce a psychiatrist character that helps a Pokemon through its Lonely nature and makes them Jolly.
We don't know for sure either way, but if they did have that restriction, it would help tone down the power creep.
Of course, I don't expect it to happen, because Game Freak has consistently acted as enablers for power creep.
This sounds really broken.I was also thinking something along them lines.
The best way to do away with megas is by making the Megas a permanent evolution with a Dex entry. Evolve Charmander into Charizard then do some side mission to unlock what the Charizard will look like in the far future which is their current Mega evilution. Keep the stats and abilities.
It gives GameFreak a chance to Guage the fan base reactions towards new evolution to old Pokémon.
While I don't think they're going anywhere and I don't particularly care if they go away, hailing them as on the level of new Pokemon is such bull. The design alterations pale compared to a change that you would get from an actual evolution, their moveset is literally identical, access is item-dependent, and the form is only available during battle and can't be accessed in any other features. They're a form change, plain and simple, let's not pretend they're anything else to make a point.
So voltorb to electrode is a new Pokemon but mega Charizard x is a slight design alteration? Movesets still the same...I agree though megas are basically forms but even then what's the problem with that? Only different in function..they still had to design a Pokemon and figure out its stats and ability and everything
This sounds really broken.
If that were true we would still have gems.
Oh, well I guess that makes up for Choice items, Life Orbs, Mega Evolutions, ever-increasing quantities of legendaries, higher and higher offensive stats with each generation, compounding insane Abilities, both regular and Hidden, better boosting moves with better distribution, myriad tutors giving strong coverage moves a large distribution, and now apparently once-per-match insta-nukes.
Gen 5 is the only one with a legendary "issue" and I'm expecting Nerfs regarding Mega Pokemon. Also, a lot of the things you listed are available to the older Pokemon as well lol.Oh, well I guess that makes up for Choice items, Life Orbs, Mega Evolutions, ever-increasing quantities of legendaries, higher and higher offensive stats with each generation, compounding insane Abilities, both regular and Hidden, better boosting moves with better distribution, myriad tutors giving strong coverage moves a large distribution, and now apparently once-per-match insta-nukes.
So your idea of fixing the meta is basically ending the meta? ok lol
Gen 5 is the only one with a legendary "issue" and I'm expecting Nerfs regarding Mega Pokemon. Also, a lot of the things you listed are available to the older Pokemon as well lol.
They're different subspecies, so it'd probably only work with non-Alolan Alakazam. Which would work fine.
Okay 1) Voltorb to Electrode is cherry-picking as fuck. And 2) I don't generally consider new forms to be new Pokemon (I might count the Alola variants as an exception depending on how they turn out, but so far I don't consider any forms as unique Pokemon) especially ones that can only be accessed in battle.
Like, I don't consider Shaymin and Shaymin-Sky different Pokemon and their abilities, moves, stats, and appearances differ from one another, why does putting 'Mega' in front suddenly make people go "Oh yeah but I mean it's totally a completely different Pokemon" when literally the only difference here is that Shaymin-S' stats are redistributed and a Mega gets an extra 100 BST.
Considering them to be whole other Pokemon just seems silly to me. They're not naturally available anywhere and they're not permanent. The devs think they're too OP so for the most part they're just completely absent from the main game. I have been given literally no reason to think of these new forms as new Pokemon.
also i change my mind, one mega should be removed from the game: @gamefreak plz wipe mega charizard x from this world, the world does not deserve this level of gen 1 pandering in the form of such an ugly creature
There's no reason why this is "necessary" other than your own OCD.I disagree that this is okay.
If you're giving Alolan forms to Pokemon that have Megas, then they need to have their own Megas.
If Alolan Alakazam is still Alakazam in species and name, then it looks wrong for Alakazam (A) to not have its own Mega Alakazam (A). I don't like the way it appears, because it kind of breaks with the idea that regional forms are supposed to be the same species as the normal forms.
I think they should avoid giving Alolan forms to Pokemon with Megas anyway, but if they do it then I think it looks off for each one not to have its own distinct mega.
Megas should remain a competitive only thing. They were completely over-powered in the story in both X/Y and ORAS
I disagree that this is okay.
If you're giving Alolan forms to Pokemon that have Megas, then they need to have their own Megas.
If Alolan Alakazam is still Alakazam in species and name, then it looks wrong for Alakazam (A) to not have its own Mega Alakazam (A). I don't like the way it appears, because it kind of breaks with the idea that regional forms are supposed to be the same species as the normal forms.
I think they should avoid giving Alolan forms to Pokemon with Megas anyway, but if they do it then I think it looks off for each one not to have its own distinct mega.
Fan service....then they went and buffed Legendaries and already OU shit like Mewtwo, Salamence, Gengar, and Garchomp. And then, Mega Rayquaza. Why.
People that cry about megas will never get old. I get it you don't really like playing pokemon anymore but still do anyways. Megas are one of the biggest things gamefreak has done to help players stick with their favorites I don't see how someone could be a fan and hate this
There's no reason why this is "necessary" other than your own OCD.
Besides, look at Gallade. He didn't have a Mega Evolution until ORAS, despite being an alternate evolution for Kirlia and despite Gardevoir getting a Mega as early as XY.
But again, moot point, because there's no functional reason why the Alolan forms would need to have Megas like their traditional forms (or vice-versa). They formed differently in different regions and thus may not have the same number of forms (or forms discovered yet).
Mega Evolution is no more innate to a species than A-Exeggutor's Dragon typing is innate to regular Exeggutor.Gallade is a totally different species from Gardevior. That's why it makes sense for it to not get a mega when Gardevoir did. They're totally separate in the way they're identified.
However, Alolan forms are not entirely "new" Pokemon. There's nothing to suggest that Mega evolution has anything to do with how a Pokemon develops. Which Pokemon do and don't get them seems arbitrary and not based on their ecosystem in any way.
Alakazam and Alakazam (A) are the same species, just with different flavors. The Mega evolution "lore" (what of it exists) ties mega evolution to the species kind of, at least how I've interpreted it. Alakazam has the mega evolution capability in it innately by virtue of its species, so it logically follows that all variations of Alakazam should be able to do the same, because they're all Alakazam. But the variations will reflect in the Megas as well.
I don't think that line of logic is the result of OCD. It just makes sense given what we know about Megas.
Mega Evolution is no more innate to a species than A-Exeggutor's Dragon typing is innate to regular Exeggutor.
The Alolan forms are functionally all-new creatures in every way except Pokedex number and name. They have new designs, new typing, new abilities, new moves, new stat distributions, even new animations. They formed differently in different regions and may very well have different potential as a result.
There's no logical requirement that the Alolan forms must have (or lack) Megas based on what their traditional counterparts have (or don't have).
This is really just you wanting things to be nice and symmetrical.
It just doesn't make sense for an Alolan Pokemon, which literally descended from the old ones, to not have the same access to a mega form that the previous iteration has. I'm not saying they'll do it, but according to how the existing mechanics and storytelling work, all new Alola forms share the "Mega" trait with their ancestors. It's logic. The newly discovered form should have a mega that reflects the biological changes of the Pokemon because it's the same species.
Mega is not relatable to anything else, at all, like Exeggutor's type or the evolution method to get from Vulpix to Ninetails.
Alakazam -> Mega Alakazam when holding Alakazite
Alakazam (A) -> Mega Alakazam (A) when holding Alakazite (A)
I meant across the whole team. It would be:
If your Charizard goes Mega, your Pikachu can't use Bloom Doom. If Pikachu uses Bloom Doom, Charizard can't go Mega.
Okay, well
I disagree that Mega Evolution relates to a Pokemon's species in the same way as a type, evolution method, or anything else really. Mega Evolution is, as I said, innate to a species because we have no proof that it's anything to the contrary. Alakazam could mega evolve before people discovered that it can, because it's a trait innate to the Pokemon.
What makes Alolan Sandslash a "Sandslash?" Design elements? Because that's the only discernible thing to me. So if these Alolan forms came from the species that we already know, that means they share some basic biology with them, and I believe mega evolution is part of that (because of how we've been told that's the case more or less).
It just doesn't make sense for an Alolan Pokemon, which literally descended from the old ones, to not have the same access to a mega form that the previous iteration has. I'm not saying they'll do it, but according to how the existing mechanics and storytelling work, all new Alola forms share the "Mega" trait with their ancestors. It's logic. The newly discovered form should have a mega that reflects the biological changes of the Pokemon because it's the same species.
Mega is not relatable to anything else, at all, like Exeggutor's type or the evolution method to get from Vulpix to Ninetails.
Alakazam -> Mega Alakazam when holding Alakazite
Alakazam (A) -> Mega Alakazam (A) when holding Alakazite (A)