Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I still think its gon be 250. They hitting all the right spots, killed it with switch announcement they cant be too stupid and ruin it with a 300$ tag
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Kimishima: 2 million Switch units shipped by FY's end
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PdotMichael
Banned
It's kind of obvious that they taking some shipments from the next FY to have some good news to provide.
You're trying too hard.
Dark Cloud
Member
Remember when people on here said we wouldn't get any news? Lol
Anyways 2 million sounds like a good number and going by what Kimishima says I think they'll go for $250.
Anyways 2 million sounds like a good number and going by what Kimishima says I think they'll go for $250.
GhostTrick
Banned
No, you're just being overly pessimistic. I wouldn't say it's obvious, although I can see them overestimating it. They're either really confident on their reveal or they're just overshipping it.
Disagreed here. The only right spot nailed with the switch announcement is the name and the message of the video. As for the hardware itself, it looks great. But the software choice was questionnable at best.
The lack of information until 2 months before launch is a silly strategy considering they'll lose some momentum. And there's a lot of things that remains to be seen, like price and battery life. Nintendo insisting on NS being a home console means to me that's a convenient excuse for the last two points.
I think the 24th is when it'll release. Gives em the ability to have a shipment right at the start of the new FY as well.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It sounds like $250 is only happening if they can sell each unit at-cost or make a profit.
Dark Cloud
Member
I guess we'll never know until it's announced. I really hope the Nvidia rumor about Nintendo getting an amazing deal is true.
There's a key "but" to Kimishima's quote that makes me think they will try to move mountains for the price tag, all the same.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Man, I hope so. If they can launch this at $250, I foresee very good things.
Not that $299 would spell disaster or anything.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
It is quite depressing seeing Matt's comments and yours as well as others saying 2 million units for the worldwide launch is being optimistic "lucky if they sell that in March"... being a worldwide launch of hopefully an exciting piece of HW one would expect more... I wonder if they are intentionally capping production, or if they are filling warehouses, or if the console has maybe not even entered final mass production yet.., thinking about t hey could even start in late December and keep manufacturing and assembly going at a moderate if not slow pace and have over 2 million units... unless manufacturing is a problem for some reason.
Herb Alpert
Banned
or they release without joy-con grip, without hdmi, without software, without ac adapter. since the new 3ds and the absence of ac adapter, who knows what they can do.
I think 299 will be the price.
GhostTrick
Banned
Even 250 dollars is expensive. Despite what Nintendo says, it's a handheld. So unless they come up with the most amazing library ever, this won't cut it over 200 dollars.
Well, you have to keep things under perspective:
It's releasing in march and aims to sell as much until March 31st. Basically, the way I see it, they'll have 3 weeks for this.
Dark Cloud
Member
Lmao my sides
OrbitalBeard
Member
Well of course the library's important. This thing's probably dead at $200 if they don't have a great 2017 lineup. I'm going by the assumption that they have learned something from their previous two launches.
Matt's point was people are being stupid with unrealistic expectations. 2 million in like 2 weeks would be fantastic numbers. The PS4 is an aberration in sales numbers at a launch period. Wii sold 1.3 million worldwide its first week roughly.
So if Switch can get to 2 million its doing quite well.
I think 299$ is the defacto price atm given the wording and historical pricing (WiiU withstanding, partially) and "home console" angle at launch. That said, after the 3DS (and Vita) anything over or near 250$ I think scares them to associate with handhelds off the bat anyway.
It's tricky to pin down, but it seems they are aware of the response and price questions/buzz. That and the forecast are positive signs.
Imo if they cant do less than 299 they 'd better bundle something with it. Not talking about AAA stuff, just some mini games compilation like Wii Sports or even Wii Play.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
The software choice was fine what were you looking for? The showed a rpg, nintendo games and sports games. What else they was supposed to show? According to social media people loved it.
They wont lose any momentum either, people said that same junk for pokemon go and it blew up in yall face. Take it nobody care now cause its about how you support the product in the end.
GhostTrick
Banned
I don't think I said something funny, so please enlight me.
I was looking for Not-5yearsoldX360game, Not-3yearsoldMK8port, Not-2yearsoldSplatoonport. I know some people will argue how it's amazing and such. I mean, Wii U unveiled with NSMB Mii, Wii Sports HD.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I agree. If $299 is the price, it probably needs a pack-in game.
Herb Alpert
Banned
you know they can't sell this for 200$.
their marketing will be in full force about the home console side (which if you want you can take on the go), people will accept a 250 (even 299) pricetag, provided the software line up is there.
Bitch Pudding
Member
I hope 2 mil isn't enough to deal with the demand - for Nintendo's sake, not for the sake of skalpers.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
250$ is a good price. Underestimating the potential value my guy
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
This is a different Nintendo they wasnt aiming to create an advertisement that appeal to you. As a Nintendo player you know what you gonna get. I mean they aint even have children in the advertisement.
PdotMichael
Banned
They aren't gonna sell 2 million at this point of the year without holiday effect and with that competition.
At least the chance are pretty high for a world wide release this FY.
No one here knows the exact break-even cost for the Switch.
But given the price of the Shield, and the fact that Nvidia has to have a healthy markup on those to make any money, that point should certainly be lower than $250 for Nintendo.
True. I'd hope for $250 max..$199 if they want it to fly.
Home console gamers are used to paying more ..but only a limited number of handheld consumers will bite at above $200.
Above $250 and you've lost most handheld consumers completely.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
One will be surely mine 😏
GhostTrick
Banned
Why not ? I thought they had an amazing Nvidia deal. The only expensive thing in here is the Tegra SoC, which we suppose they had it for cheaper.
250 dollars is expensive for a handheld. People also though 250 dollars was good for 3DS or Vita.
How is that a different Nintendo ? No, no, as a Nintendo player, I don't know what I'm getting. All I saw was ports of games I own. They're aiming for mainstream audience ? The same audience who likely played Skyrim 5 years ago ?
I'm curious how you own a 64-esc new Mario game.
Herb Alpert
Banned
PdotMichael
Banned
250 would be an excellent price for the hardware we are getting. Based on the hardware I wouldn't be surprised if the final price is closer to 300 than 250.
unknownstranger
Member
Nobody but Nintendo thought $250 for the 3DS was a good idea.
Guess Bethesda should cancel that SE version of Skyrim coming out in a few days. (Not saying it's appealing to you or me, but it is appealing to someone if they're rereleasing the game now)
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Like with PS2, they were selling essentially all they were manufacturing. Their shipment figures for the launch window were about 3.19 Million units.
GhostTrick
Banned
That was the only new thing shown here.
Pachter thought so :")
Even saying it wasn't enough
The difference here, Bethesda isn't trying to sell a new console with SE version of Skyrim.
The 3DS could well have cost more to manufacture in 2011 than the Switch will thanks to how expensive 3D screens were at the time.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
It may need something extra than "Now on the Go" perhaps... else they may risk a Mass Effect 3 kind of situation when the other consoles just released a better looking mod enabled version of the same game months before and is now available for a cheaper price.
PdotMichael
Banned
Skyrim shouldn't be some outstanding title on a possible Switch launch lineup. It's something that should just exist on Switch too. It's like the standard canon of a modern console.
SinCityAssassin
Member
I'm mostly wondering if those third parties already have a game lined up for the Switch by the March release date. Cause I know numerous other developers have revealed themselves as Switch devs while noting they will release games at a tentative 2017 date.
Like it's not hard to expect a DSIII for the Switch by FROM Soft yeah?
Dark Cloud
Member
I wonder if Bethesda is using Skyrim as a test game to see if they should bring more games or are they already planning like a Fallout 4 for the Switch.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
They are marketing and selling it as a hybrid. We literally havent had anything like it before. Everyone I know are comparing this to their ps4 or xbox one in terms of functionality. Its a home console you can take with you. If you are following mainstream news and not neogaf all day you can see these people have a different perspective on what Nintendo is offering.
Like I said, they arent aiming to please you. Im sorry this advertisement didnt appeal to you but only 11 million people bought the Wii U. They can put whatever ports they want in there and the mainstream and handheld only players will rejoice they getting a new mario kart, splatoon, mario, zelda, skyrim and 2k.
I feel like you eternally trapped in a instance of Nintendo should appeal to mainstream to sell but also appeal to me so I can buy it too. Alot of Nintendo fans thinking like that. Suprised you aint bring up an argument on how the hardware will be outdated as soon as it launches.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Yeah but by that time the damage will have already been done and 3rd parties will have bailed. Nintendo isn't in some luxurious position they need this to sell well from the start.
The fact the Wii u launched and catastrophically failed at that price should have been warning enough.