It is, but, I don't see it having much effect. Maybe in Arizona because the rate hike is like 110% here, but if Dems don't flip Arizona it doesn't change the election at all.
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Trump will win the election and is more popular than Obama in 2008- AI system finds
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It is, but, I don't see it having much effect. Maybe in Arizona because the rate hike is like 110% here, but if Dems don't flip Arizona it doesn't change the election at all.
Lord Frieza
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I admit as I started reading it, I was like, 'Hmm, might be something to this,' then was immediately shattered by what was afterward. Lol, how dumb.
Best first post in a long time
everyday math
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Well looks like it's gonna be wrong for the first time. Polls show he has no chances.
Lord Frieza
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How did Clinton have a bad week? Did I miss something? The Obamacare thing really doesn't directly hit her, since it's really Obama's thing. Was there something else?
There you go.
Just more emails. Lead story on the news yesterday was the Clinton getting $50 million "part of a complicated mingling of lucrative business deals and charity work of the Clinton Foundation mapped out in a memo released by WikiLeaks on Wednesday."
Obamacare does directly hit her because she supports it. That is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
The continued Wikileaks information, especially as it pertains to the Clinton Foundation, really does not paint them very well.
And she is tied directly to Obamacare, as one of her campaign platforms is to not only keep it but strengthen it.
Lastly, Trump hasn't set his hair on fire on national television so again him mostly sticking to the teleprompter has given his campaign a small boost.
Works out fine for me. I have a bet with someone that he's going to get at least 40% of the national vote... He has almost no chance of winning, but making it a bit closer wins me money. So that's good.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I understand the rationale but the system is only factoring in awareness and engagement - off the charts for Trump for sure - but not taken into account Sentiment, which is very important in this case since it's so negative for a disproportion size of the Engaged audience - it's undercutting the funnel and negatively impacting Conversion (I.e actual votes)
Ziltoidia 9
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It would be interesting to see the melt down if he did win. Too bad we can't respawn after it...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yup. His path is to win the whole damn thing, of course. Didn't you watch Major League?
Lord Frieza
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Something legitimate, or just more manufactured bullshit?
I don't see how she's directly involved with Obamacare.
Um, okay...
Goro Majima
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More people do talk about Trump than they talk about Clinton for sure.
He might be the most discussed candidate of all time. He's positioned himself right at the center of a culture war with his rhetoric.
He might be the most discussed candidate of all time. He's positioned himself right at the center of a culture war with his rhetoric.
I just told you how she is tied to Obamacare. What don't you understand? She supports the initiative and wants to expand it. It's currently quite unpopular.
And yeah, it looks pretty legitimate to me. Why don't you read it?
Yup. His path is to win the whole damn thing, of course. Didn't you watch Major League?
Ha ok. I mean if people want to believe Trump will win at this point, good for them, sure. It's just, at this point it would be very hard to do without buying into conspiracies. But, educated Trump surrogates go on the news everyday and make the case he will and you can tell they are sincere in their belief that he will, so I guess at the very least, you're not alone.
Whether her stances on Obamacare make her directly involved or not with what is happening, you should know the election is a game of perception. Anybody they can blame they will and that makes Clinton a target seeing as how Trump is vowing to do away with it entirely.
But at any rate, I do not believe it effects much of anything with 11 days to go.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Pretty much. Like Google keeps publishing which candidate is being searched more as if the is indicative of anything. Without proper context, it means nothing. People searching for what outrageous thing Trump said that day would mean just that, not support for the candidate.
Lord Frieza
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Sure, but she's openly talking about altering it. I really don't see how the connection is direct enough to really matter. I feel like those who find that a deal breaker, probably just find any universal health care a deal breaker, and would be against anything outside a total destruction of the concept
I've stopped really paying attention to shit about the Clinton Foundation stuff because it is, in my opinion, the most manufactured scandal in recent memory.I mean, if there's something really there about it I'll look into it, though. Do you have a link with a detailed explanation of what issues come from it?
Race may tighten a little, but enough to swing the election? Highly, highly unlikely.
If there was another debate to go or some other major event, maybe. But she knows that she's got this in the bag barring some political catastrophe. That's why she's remained quiet while her surrogates make appearances in key states.
Lord Frieza
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I don't know, I feel like most of the people we're talking about here are people who associate Hillary with literally everything evil and wrong or whatever. I think the majority of people don't see a direct link between her and Obamacare, even if she says she'll support it. She's talking openly about changing and improving it, without necessarily criticizing it. I don't see that as being a huge hit, honestly.
If the Wikileaks stuff about the Foundation is something legit and not just more nonsense nothingness, that could be a hit. Though, like you said, I think it's too late to have an impact, and Trump has pretty much been set as a sexual predator and bum candidate by the majority of the country, so I don't see any of it as being relevant enough to matter. There's also, I think, a real fatigue in the e-mail stuff with Clinton were a lot of people just don't care anymore, unless there's a major red flag. The right really plowed that into the ground, and something that could matter a good deal about it is just glossed over by most anyone who isn't already dedicated to the narrative.
valkillmore
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Into a dumpster no less! !
Netherscourge
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Even if he "loses" he'll hold everything up for a few weeks demanding recounts and investigations and all the other bullshit.
But when he has to pay his OWN money to fund the lawyers and lawsuits, that's when he'll back out and concede.
But when he has to pay his OWN money to fund the lawyers and lawsuits, that's when he'll back out and concede.
Mr. Poolman
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Machines can't understand context.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696
Refers to a recent 11 page leak which you can read directly, if you so choose.
And as for Obamacare- It's no secret that she supports the plan and wants to make some alterations to it. Yes, there is a lot of noise right now so it's hard to separate fact from fiction... But it's not very popular at the moment, and she's being tied to it as we speak. Perception is reality.
DragonSworne
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Where are all these systems that are predicting Clinton winning? Oh yea, the polls which are actually accurate.
you can write them in.
This is as bad as that Octopus that predicted football results.
Already Torn
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The silent majority was YouTube comments all along
I think it's amusing that Trump is more reigned in now all of a sudden. Less angry twitter posting, more policies and even harping on about Obamacare. It's like he just now figured out how to play the game. But that's like bringing in your best pitcher when you are in the 9th and down by 5 runs. All you can do at this point is try and stop it from getting worse. Too little too late.
kavanf1
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Trump has less white men than Romney bozo
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I believe it. The majority of white men votes will make enough of a difference.
DragonSworne
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Trump has the black vote on lockdown. He said so.
Lord Frieza
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Is he really more reigned in though? He's peddling conspiracy theories left and right, with the same kind of racist and sexist rhetoric he's been using, as well as his usual ranting and raving as always. I don't really see much of a difference? He's always had bits and pieces of policies shattered throughout his ravings.
You're paying attention to a single national poll without looking at the broader picture, or electorate polling, which is far more accurate and in-depth than a single national poll. If you want to base something on a single poll, you definitely shouldn't look at the LA Times. You'll have a heart attack.
Lord Frieza
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The Silent Majority will magically begin existing for Trump only. He's truly a miracle worker.
Huh? Where were they when Obama won for two terms? I know you didn't mention it directly, but I see the argument thrown out there that the White Trump supporters are THAT energized and they will turn up in droves like never before. If they didn't in 2008 or 2012 to stop the first Black president, I can't see it happening now. What's the difference? Hillary is just that bad? I don't buy it. On the flip side many people are energized to stop Trump from becoming president.
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