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[Lkr]

If you still rely on optical out then you don't have a "quality 5.1 setup," sorry. It's time to upgrade. It's been time to upgrade since about 2012.

This x 500000
Why are you using lossy audio in 2017? A new AVR with HDMI can be had for cheaper than the switch

 

[koss424]

it matters to me since i still use optical.

That's not Nintendo' fault. It's an old port

 

[NolbertoS]

I'm sad that the Switch doesn'y connect tonmy phonograph either but that hasn't stopped me from embracing new technology. Nintendo is damned if they do and damned if they don't. i can see why the Big N will always be the punching bag for gruntled gamers.

 

[Salex_]

It wasn't on the Wii not on the Wii U. Why would you ever expect it to be supported now? Are you also expecting a Ethernet port?

Hmm....yeah? A console being released with no Ethernet port in 2017 is ridiculous. It's been a standard in Sony & MS consoles for over a decade.

 

[TheAngryMonkey]

It's really easy to use your TV as a switcher. Just connect your receiver/soundbar/whatever to your TV via optical, and connect everything else to the TV with HDMI. That way nothing else needs an optical port and you don't need a receiver with a bunch of ports either.

There are at least half a dozen of us that don't use a TV (monitor instead) so this conversion method won't work

 

[Vital Tundra]

I'm sad that the Switch doesn'y connect tonmy phonograph either but that hasn't stopped me from embracing new technology. Nintendo is damned if they do and damned if they don't. i can see why the Big N will always be the punching bag for gruntled gamers.

Hey guys we future proofed the switch with USB-C, did we do good?

No FUCK YOU where is my floppy drive?!

 

[udivision]

That's not Nintendo' fault. It's an old port

so is skyrim hohoho

 

[doctorcdcs]

That's not Nintendo' fault. It's an old port

which is still used by the current Sony and Microsoft consoles, and as someone else mentioned, gaming headphones.

 

[Schnozberry]

This is correct, doing optical out from tv to receiver sounds like an easy fix, except you wont get 5.1, just two channel stereo, fuck that.

That's not true. You can do 5.1 over bitstream, just not linear PCM. Compressed vs uncompressed.

 

[Azerare]

This x 500000
Why are you using lossy audio in 2017? A new AVR with HDMI can be had for cheaper than the switch

People don't want to admit standards move fast and the sweet setup they got isn't so sweet anymore.

Though if you're still rocking optical audio outs, expect future peripherals/devices to faze out the use of them.

 

[Narroo]

People here really love HDMI, don't they?

Optical is still used fora lot of audio devices. The presence of gaming systems will not change that.

 

[Schnozberry]

People here really love HDMI, don't they?

Optical is still used fora lot of audio devices. The presence of gaming systems will not change that.

You can also buy splitters that will take your HDMI connection and split off the audio to optical for $20. Whether they introduce any noticeable audio lag I'm not sure.

 

[The Omega Man]

LOL what even is this?

It means SONY has an SKU without optical port and one SKU with one. So it gives you the option for those that still have setups with optical receiver.

 

[Lkr]

People here really love HDMI, don't they?

Optical is still used fora lot of audio devices. The presence of gaming systems will not change that.

Please tell me what is using optical these days. Unless you mean some devices still have a legacy port on there.

As for "premium" headsets, quit wasting your money on that shit and get real headphones + dac

 

[OneUh8]

lol optical. No offense but, that shit is old and needs to just go away.

 

[entremet]

HDMI is fine and much better too.

 

[Hypron]

Please tell me what is using optical these days. Unless you mean some devices still have a legacy port on there.

As for "premium" headsets, quit wasting your money on that shit and get real headphones + dac

Yeah but does the switch support USB DACs? Properly (the PS4 inverts channels on some DACs for example, like my ODAC)?

Optical is enough for lossless stereo sound so it's a good alternative for headphones.

 

[Mechazawa]

The standard is shifting towards USB more so. Wouldn't say optical is really a main stay.

Except we have no idea if the Switch supports USB audio either.

 

[Syriel]

As someone who was recently gifted 7.1 turtle beach headphones, this news saddens me.

You do realize that optical does not, and cannot, support 7.1 audio, right?

 

[Izuna]

Dont see this at e problem, every tv has audio out. So just go from tv out to your receiver.

You are aware that there's always a lot of audio lag this way, right?

 

[Jangowuzhere]

I guess most here just assumes that you'll have this system hooked up to a TV.

As someone who games exclusively on a monitor and with headphones, this just makes the Switch far less appealing to me. I had to sacrifice the surround sound for my headphones to play the Wii U, but at least I could actually hear the system through the composite. With the Switch, It's going to be a big headache trying to figure out how much I need to spend and what I'll need to purchase to make my set up work.

 

[mrpeabody]

Is there even a single person for whom optical out will make the difference between buying a Switch and not buying a Switch? The OP is mad, sure, but he's apparently the only person on GAF who gives a shit, and even he isn't willing to cancel his preorder.

Safe to say this is a non-issue.

 

[AllenShrz]

so is skyrim hohoho

Damn!

 

[Mechazawa]

Is there even a single person for whom optical out will make the difference between buying a Switch and not buying a Switch? The OP is mad, sure, but he's apparently the only person on GAF who gives a shit, and even he isn't willing to cancel his preorder.

Safe to say this is a non-issue.

There's a lot of people in this thread who have an issue with it. There is literally someone above you who has an issue with it.

It's a lot easier to be lazy and not read a thread so you can drive-by shitpost, tho.

 

[Diprosalic]

what about PS/2? it surely must have that.

 

[lasrmountedmoai]

HDMI to receiver, receiver to speakers and HDMI out to TV? Problem solved?

I could be wrong but last I checked pass through from tvs output two channel audio only

 

[duckroll]

So the Switch is getting PS3/360 ports, but it doesn't support PS3/360 era standards? Sad!

 

[MrBenchmark]

I could be wrong but last I checked pass through from tvs output two channel audio only

Most TV's will output standard Dolby digital or pcm thru optical. Optical is legacy at this point.

 

[Cday]

I use optical to output from TV to a headphone amp/DAC. I don't need it on the Switch but people are defending Nintendo as if they're protecting people from some antiquated low quality audio when it's common for people to plug headphones straight into awful audio sources like the PS4, XB1, WII U controllers, 3DS and perhaps now, the Switch.

The assumption that optical has no modern uses is complete bullshit.

 

[lasrmountedmoai]

Most TV's will output standard Dolby digital or pcm thru optical. Optical is legacy at this point.

But not passed through from hdmi.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

So the Switch is getting PS3/360 ports, but it doesn't support PS3/360 era standards? Sad!

Sony has the most tremendous, the most beautiful standards!

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Optical audio is an old port. It's like asking why you don't have composite/component/s-video/scart on a brand new console.

HDMI has superceeded it, if you require it, you can buy a convertor.

So you are mad that nintendo supports a superior standard?

That would be considered a legacy port.

Look at all these people who don't know their audio.

So the Switch is getting PS3/360 ports, but it doesn't support PS3/360 era standards? Sad!

You too..?! Immortal??

 

[FrankWza]

Look at all these people who don't know their audio.



You too, immortal!

So true.

Passing through hdmi receivers usually produces input lag too. Also, when all these posts poopooing optical find out they need to replace their receivers to support 4k remember this thread. And comparing optical to component makes no sense. Component is analog.

 

[Horsemama1956]

Wow at everyone shitting on the OP. Optical is still pretty popular since people don't upgrade to newer receiver unless it dies for the most part if they really like how it sounds.

HDMI in receiver has been buggy as fucking hell for a lot of people as well be it they can't get picture, lag or whatever else can happen. Would be nice to see Optical still since it costs fuck all to implement and doesn't take much room.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

So true.

Passing through hdmi receivers usually produces input lag too. Also, when all these posts poopooing optical find out they need to replace their receivers to support 4k remember this thread. And comparing optical to component makes no sense. Component is analog.

Yep. The audio lag in HDMI drives me nuts, once you notice it. Anyone who has gone optical knows this. You literally cannot experience things like sports the same way (delayed sounds of e.g. Puck being hit in hockey), shooters the same way (delayed sounds of someone firing bullet), or games like Rocksmith or Rock Band or Dance Dance Revolution or other music games that heavily relies on sound to be precisely timed.

People complain about video lag, but audio is as important as video.

 

[pswii60]

I'm not lost at all. He is talking about the audio lagging behind the picture.

Well then you are lost, because that isn't what he was talking about.

 

[killatopak]

ehh not too mad about this as optical isn't really used that much anymore.

 

[MrBenchmark]

But not passed through from hdmi.

Depends on the tv. Example the Wii U hooked up to my TV set to pcm audio passes that pcm audio thru to my receiver. My receiver support all modern standards but I'm using all the ports for devices that need the newer standards.

So my Wii U audio goes from hdmi out the tv optical to my receiver and audio output is proper.

Your TV's manual will list what it can output thru it's optical port I know mine did.


People talking about hdmi audio lag you guys need better equipment. Any receive worth its salt can be adjusted for Audio lag or simply doesn't produce it. And if your getting lag thru your receivers hdmi that's actually noticeable than it isn't proper passthru.

 

[duckroll]

So true.

Passing through hdmi receivers usually produces input lag too. Also, when all these posts poopooing optical find out they need to replace their receivers to support 4k remember this thread. And comparing optical to component makes no sense. Component is analog.

I actually use optical on my PS3 for gaming and only switch to HDMI for BD playback. When I changed to a newer Denon receiver a while back I noticed this weirdass audio bug when playing Cold Steel, where voice was dropping out at the start of sentences sometimes. Had to switch to optical and set something on the receiver to fix it. Was weird.

 

[FrankWza]

Yep. The audio lag in HDMI drives me nuts, once you notice it. Anyone who has gone optical knows this. You literally cannot experience things like sports the same way (delayed sounds of e.g. Puck being hit in hockey), shooters the same way (delayed sounds of someone firing bullet), or games like Rocksmith or Rock Band or Dance Dance Revolution or other music games that heavily relies on sound to be precisely timed.

People complain about video lag, but audio is as important as video.

Input lag too. Its an extra step when passing through hdmi. Another reason why pros go straight to monitors

 

[Red Devil]

Never used optical audio out on any console, so yeah.

I saw someone complain in a store that their new Blu-Ray player didn't support composite (or component, whatever) cables to plug into a CRT the other week, so I'm sure there's people around who do.

Some Blu-Ray players had it though not sure if 4K Blu-Ray players have them.

I dont really get the "its old!" posts. I mean, sure, its old, but both PS4 and Xbox One have it. I'm pretty sure that both Xbox Scorpio and PS5 will also have it.

It's one of the arguments used by the people who support phone manufacturers removing headphone jacks.

 

[Toparaman]

Please tell me what is using optical these days. Unless you mean some devices still have a legacy port on there.

As for "premium" headsets, quit wasting your money on that shit and get real headphones + dac

My DAC doesn't take HDMI, only optical.and analog. I imagine a lot of headphone users are in the same boat.

Is the Switch console's headphone jack usable when docked? Otherwise I'll have to buy an HDMI audio extractor.

 

[WadeitOut]

I connect my optical to the tv itself. Done.

 

[Seth Enosh]

Yep. The audio lag in HDMI drives me nuts, once you notice it. Anyone who has gone optical knows this. You literally cannot experience things like sports the same way (delayed sounds of e.g. Puck being hit in hockey), shooters the same way (delayed sounds of someone firing bullet), or games like Rocksmith or Rock Band or Dance Dance Revolution or other music games that heavily relies on sound to be precisely timed.

People complain about video lag, but audio is as important as video.

The lag is from the receiver more than from HDMI I think. If your receiver has the setting allowing turning off processing the lag for gaming is almost unnoticeable (except for music games like Rocksmith that rely on user input). When I switch my receiver off of direct mode I can definitely hear the lag in Rocksmith but it doesn't bother me for other games.

 

[Trogdor1123]

People don't want to admit standards move fast and the sweet setup they got isn't so sweet anymore.

Though if you're still rocking optical audio outs, expect future peripherals/devices to faze out the use of them.

Or they are using a brand new high end headset but whatever.

 

[FrankWza]

Depends on the tv. Example the Wii U hooked up to my TV set to pcm audio passes that pcm audio thru to my receiver. My receiver support all modern standards but I'm using all the ports for devices that need the newer standards.

So my Wii U audio goes from hdmi out the tv optical to my receiver and audio output is proper.

Your TV's manual will list what it can output thru it's optical port I know mine did.


People talking about hdmi audio lag you guys need better equipment. Any receive worth its salt can be adjusted for Audio lag or simply doesn't produce it. And if your getting lag thru your receivers hdmi that's actually noticeable than it isn't proper passthru.

Most tvs pass audio at 2.0. If yours doesn't output right higher it is definitely not proper. Your receiver is just remixing.

 

[JustenP88]

The bolded is exactly why they continue to make these stupid moves.

Exactly. Between this and the lack of a coax port, I don't know how there's not a full-scale boycott of the Switch.

 

[AllenShrz]

Yep. The audio lag in HDMI drives me nuts, once you notice it. Anyone who has gone optical knows this. You literally cannot experience things like sports the same way (delayed sounds of e.g. Puck being hit in hockey), shooters the same way (delayed sounds of someone firing bullet), or games like Rocksmith or Rock Band or Dance Dance Revolution or other music games that heavily relies on sound to be precisely timed.

People complain about video lag, but audio is as important as video.

Yes, that's why I try to avoid as much as possible HDMI passtrough using the receiver and instead use the ARC port, much much faster this way.

 

[geordiemp]

Some headphone amps, such as Astro mix amp, use optical out.

Its fairly common for gaming. At least Pro has it.

And lol to the people who say this set up is bad. Mmm OK.

Astro mix amp + sennheisser game ONE using optical is gaming paradise.

 

[bananas]

I'm glad none of my money is going towards a legacy port.

Except it has a 3.5mm jack and the dock has two USB 2.0 ports.