davidwhangchoi
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Yakuza 0 Review Thread
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Son of SparDa, you da man for making these!
The levels of detail are completely different. Along with the day/night cycle which Yakuza does not have, characters in Shenmue had places to go and lives to live, as well as being fully voiced (for better or for worse...). And this was years before the first Yakuza game. Yakuza's world is bigger, and you can go into shops and stuff, but items in Shenmue are just items. A bag of chips is just a bag of chips that you can buy if you want to have, they have no purpose in the gameplay.
I don't know, I just think they're really different series and not like eachother barely at all.
I also prefer Yakuza as a series but it feels strange to compare them. I like Virtua Fighter better than both of them?
Hydrargyrus
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Seems like, at least with PS4 games that are what I look for, there's always an absolutely absurd review score...
Son Of Sparda
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I'll be away for a little while, if anyone else wanted me to add the Yakuza tag for them, PM me and I'll do it when I come back.
Alternatively here is the tag for anyone who has the skills to do it him/herself
Hahahahaha I'm so glad I was alone in my house when that happened.
lucebuce12
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SparDa*
davidwhangchoi
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fixed! thanks, didn't even notice the typo =)
bishopcruz
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To be fair, Yakuza has gotten more and more like Shenmue as the series has progressed. Early on there was a lot less stuff to do, and a lot less detail in the world as well. Shenmue still does an amazing job as a world simulator, while Yakuza is a JRPG with crime and real world trappings. They have a lot of similarities, in that both try to sell the environments that they take place in, but the core of the games is different. Yakuza is about combat mainly with a lot of side stuff and little exploration. Shenmue is about exploration and investigation, with bits of combat and a lot of side stuff.
Peroroncino
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Well impressions will have to wait until I get the game on monday, but I'll definitely spread the love.
But thats it. Yakuza manages to takes some of the better ideas of Shenmue and make it into a more interactive game that serves to some kind of gameplay and narrative. I'm not saying that they are the same, but i think that they feel similar to me in their presentation. I like that Yakuza is not afraid of the arcady game, while Shenmue tried to take itself a bit to seriously at times.
I think i get what you said about the characters having a daily life. But Shenmue 2 was a bit more broad and Yakuza like where there is just a crowd. Both are interesting for their different take, but i still think that they share a lot.
Virtua Fighter is alright.
Alternatively here is the tag for anyone who has the skills to do it him/herself
I'll save this. I can help take on requests
When you say 'they both try to sell the environments that they take place in', isn't that true of almost any RPG? I think it's the difference of how far Shenmue goes with it that makes the games' mission statement too unalike to compare them: time is fleeting, you can't just fuck around all the time or you will literally lose the game. Gotta get to bed by 11. I think you know what I mean.
Ultimate, it falls down to this
Shenmue is and will always be the story of Ryo Hazuki. The narrative focus is always centered around him. We know, usually, only what he knows.
Yakuza's star, in the vein of most crime dramas, is the world itself or rather the town of Kamurocho. This is why we're able to see events that our player character has no way of witnessing.
Both games share the base DNA but their focus is wildly different. Ryo is the star of his story whereas the world of Yakuza is a character in itself. When Ryo's story ends, so will Shenmue. When Kiryu hangs his white jacket for good, Kamurcho will always be there and I'm certain we'll revisit it with other protagonists.
he's actually pretty awesome in the sequels too.
I like this.
I do like the cast and the support characters in Yakuza games. They are usually very interesting. Kiryu is also has the biggest heart of gold. he is pretty awesome, and badass.
PepsimanVsJoe
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I'm just pleased to see Yakuza getting more recognition in the West. It's nice when a game that embraces its own national identity is still accessible to people in other countries, and maybe teaches them a thing or two about cultures outside of their own.
Hopefully, this will push up the sales of the game. If any franchise deserved more love saleswise, this is it.
Hopefully, this will push up the sales of the game. If any franchise deserved more love saleswise, this is it.
UnluckyKate
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Becaues Yakuza is the closest thing we have past Shenmue ?
Put aside martial arts and mini games I would say gta is the closest thing
Peroroncino
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Yup, Rymuth is on point. While I'm attached af to Kiryu Kazuma, I can easily see another Yakuza game without him behind the steering wheel, the cast of Yakuza's likeable main and side characters is just so rich that it almost feels limitess, on the flip side, I really can't imagine another Shenmue game after Ryo's story comes to a conclusion.
At best, Yakuza and Shenmue are both adventure games where you can go into shops and arcades. You constantly fight people in Yakuza, and you occasionally fight people in Shenmue.
Beyond that, both series' MO and design are completely different. In my opinion they are more unalike than alike.
Beyond that, both series' MO and design are completely different. In my opinion they are more unalike than alike.
it's the origin so yes.
It's a prequel. Perfect to jump in.
Yup it's the absolute best way to get into the series!
UnluckyKate
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Why ? Barely any shooting in Yakuza, no driving of any sort... These are the pillar of GTA gameplay with open world...
I did not! Guess that's the next task at hand for me.
Peroroncino
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On a side note, I've read that review and I'm honestly surprised at the score, from the text it would seem like it deserved a little bit higher note.
Aenima
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To be honest, anything below 90 metacritic to any of the Yakuza games, is underrating them.
But i seems many of the western reviewers just dont get much into the japanese culture fest that are the Yakuza games. Or they dont get the humour, or dont take time to get good with the fighting system or worst, dont even try the sidequest or minigames that are the tasty gravy of the yakuza games.
But not bad reviews for this title, i was actually expecting worst reviews from the western media.
RedAssedApe
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That EGM review didn't read like a 5/10 game. Writing style seemed a bit tempered so I guess the dislikes came across to me as being a lot more minor than what is reflected in the final score.
lucebuce12
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Go for it. Yakuza 0 is a prequel so it doesn't matter which games you've played before. You don't have to play 4 or 5 if you really don't want to.
Freeman76
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Are you even serious? Damn son!!!
I guess I'm just worried the assumedly better mechanics of 0 will make it harder to ever return to 4 and 5.. but eh!
Thanks for the reply
Edit also it seems like this runs fine on vanilla PS4?
SirClinksAlot
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I have only played a little bit of yakuza 3 and never really got into it but I went ahead and bought this on amazon for release day. Just the shear weirdness of all the mini games has me excited!
BlazingDarkness
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Reviews all look to be pretty excellent aside from the EGM one ;o
lucebuce12
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Y4 and Y5 have the benefit of having 4 different playstyles because of the 4 different characters (5 in the case of Y5 but one of them's not a fighting style) so even if you go back, it won't be such a big readjustment.
1080p/60. The game actually doesn't have a Pro mode so it's the same thing across the board.
Only performance issues are some minor slowdowns in some areas but that's only in adventure mode when FPS doesn't really matter. During actual combat, it's smooth as silk always.