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Woman Admits Testimony In The Murder of Emmet Till Was Made Up

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SeanC

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I'm glad she's finally admitting to this and time was taken to get it on record...

...now hurry up and die, you old cunt.
 
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R0ckman

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No apology? Huh, her only hope is that there is nothing on the other side, she's at the age where the die is about to be cast.
 
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Skilletor

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dave is ok said:
I never said she didn't do a bad thing, I said she might not have the foresight to know what would happen as a result of her bad thing - which I don't think is very controversial and we have no way of asking her. All we have is second hand information from interviews.

She is dead.
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Sure, she didn't. But she knew it was okay to lie because it was just a black boy. Who cares if she lies on a little black kid. Who cares what happens? That's what I saw in your statement.

Defense against a person and a culture that didn't give a fuck what happened to black bodies. She might not have known how horrible it would have been, but she would have known it would have been bad and she had no reason to lie about it.
 
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Nepenthe said:
What is your fucking point? Seriously dude.
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That I don't. Because I don't know if she knew what would happen.

That's literally the only opinion I have expressed in this thread and I'm being treated like it's a ridiculous monstrous opinion. It's not because she's white, I would give anyone the same legal consideration.

I understand this is an emotional place, rightfully so. So I'm leaving the thread. This isn't about not caring about anyone, it's just about the culpability of a murderer compared to a liar.
 
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Enzom21

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dave is ok said:
So you consider her just as guilty as the two men who committed the murder?
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She fucking lied about him flirting with her and grabbing her.
Do you think there was malicious intent in her lie?

dave is ok said:
That I don't. Because I don't know if she knew what would happen.

That's literally the only opinion I have expressed in this thread and I'm being treated like it's a ridiculous monstrous opinion. It's not because she's white, I would give anyone the same legal consideration.

I understand this is an emotional place, rightfully so. So I'm leaving the thread. This isn't about not caring about anyone, it's just about the culpability of a murderer compared to a liar.
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"Too much scrutiny, better duck out before I trip up."
 
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v0yce

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dave is ok said:
That I don't. Because I don't know if she knew what would happen.

That's literally the only opinion I have expressed in this thread and I'm being treated like it's a ridiculous monstrous opinion. It's not because she's white, I would give anyone the same legal consideration.
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Yeah, cut this poor old lady some slack guys.

She probably thought he would be killed in a more humane way.
 
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AGoodODST

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dave is ok said:
That I don't. Because I don't know if she knew what would happen.

That's literally the only opinion I have expressed in this thread and I'm being treated like it's a ridiculous monstrous opinion. It's not because she's white, I would give anyone the same legal consideration.
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It is ridiculous. You think it isn't because you have no idea what you are talking about, which has been shown by several posters correcting you on your lack of historical knowledge (which incedentily you choose to ignore and not reply to - surprise!).

Edit: I see they bailed. Says it all really.
 
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PHOENIXZERO

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A grown ass white woman in the South during 1950s not knowing what would happen to a black male/kid for flirting with or making moves or even looking at a white woman for too long.

Yeah, okay.
 
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Nepenthe

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dave is ok said:
That I don't. Because I don't know if she knew what would happen.

That's literally the only opinion I have expressed in this thread and I'm being treated like it's a ridiculous monstrous opinion. It's not because she's white, I would give anyone the same legal consideration.

I understand this is an emotional place, rightfully so. So I'm leaving the thread. This isn't about not caring about anyone, it's just about the culpability of a murderer compared to a liar.
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If she didn't know what would happen, she had decades to admit genuine remorse but never did. Stop caping for her because you seem so confused by an open-and-shut case of a failure of humanity.
 
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eggandI

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Wow in every single one of these type of threads there is always at least one poster trying to make up hypotheticals to play devils advocate

Not even something as obviously evil as the emmet till case is spared from these people lol
 
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Slayven

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dave is ok said:
That I don't. Because I don't know if she knew what would happen.

That's literally the only opinion I have expressed in this thread and I'm being treated like it's a ridiculous monstrous opinion. It's not because she's white, I would give anyone the same legal consideration.

I understand this is an emotional place, rightfully so. So I'm leaving the thread. This isn't about not caring about anyone, it's just about the culpability of a murderer compared to a liar.
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Always martyrdom, which just shows you knew your opinion was crap to begin with. 1950s Mississippi when you can not only be a member of the KKK openly but it was a way to get ahead. There were still children of confederate soldiers running around. Too say she might not have been aware of accusing a black man of talking to a white woman wasn't death sentice. Is either dangerous ignorance of the last 400 years of American history or being dangerously disingenuous. Either way don't get mad when folks call you out on it.

Yes and motherfuckers are mad because the same mentality that let these men go free is still alive and well today.

eggandI said:
Wow in every single one of these type of threads there is always at least one poster trying to make up hypotheticals to play devils advocate

Not even something as obviously evil as the emmet till case is spared from these people lol
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It is his shtick
 
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Nepenthe

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eggandI said:
Wow in every single one of these type of threads there is always at least one poster trying to make up hypotheticals to play devils advocate

Not even something as obviously evil as the emmet till case is spared from these people lol
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Gonna Godwin this and say that dave wouldn't be on this point if we were discussing a hypothetical story where a Nazi officer lied on or double-crossed someone to get them thrown in a concentration camp just because.

Black people, even our children, are truly not worth a damn thing to some people.
 
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Pau

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Ah yes, I'm sure white women in the south lived in a bubble where they knew nothing about the shit done to black boys and men in their name.

PHOENIXZERO said:
A grown ass white woman in the South during 1950s not knowing what would happen to a black male/kid for flirting with or making moves or even looking at a white woman for too long.

Yeah, okay.
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For real.
 
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dave is ok

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Again. I have no sympathy for this woman. Her story led to one of the most unimaginable awful murders in US history, I am not defending her.

If I'm being too even handed, I apologize.
 
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Enzom21

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dave is ok said:
Again. I have no sympathy for this woman. Her story led to one of the most unimaginable awful murders in US history, I am not defending her.
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Welcome back! We know, you're just asking for a little nuance in regards to the responsibility she has for the murder, correct?
 
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Coffee Dog

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dave is ok said:
Again. I have no sympathy for this woman. Her story led to one of the most unimaginable awful murders in US history, I am not defending her.
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Dave: Asking for nuance is defense.

Your line of reasoning lessened her culpability. It's a roundabout way to clear the woman.
 
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Coffee Dog said:
Dave: Asking for nuance is defense.

Your line of reasoning lessened her culpability. It's a roundabout way to clear the woman.
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Thank you for the actual conversation instead of calling me a "fucking loser" or turning my posts into memes. I do agree with whoever said she had decades to apologize or come clean and didn't.

The actual murder was so horrific that it's almost impossible to talk about without getting emotional.
 
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Wolfe

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PHOENIXZERO said:
A grown ass white woman in the South during 1950s not knowing what would happen to a black male/kid for flirting with or making moves or even looking at a white woman for too long.

Yeah, okay.
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But man, you don't know if she knew, she could have been born that day as a fully grown adult!

dave is ok said:
Thank you for the actual conversation instead of calling me a "fucking loser" or turning my posts into memes. I do agree with whoever said she had decades to apologize or come clean and didn't
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Man get outta here, you're being willfully obtuse.
 
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andthebeatgoeson

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In 'Ain't this some bullshit' News:

Tyson's book, to be published next week, was preceded by the definitive study of the case, Devery S. Anderson's masterful Emmett Till: The Murder That Shocked the World and Propelled the Civil Rights Movement, which was published in 2015 by the University Press of Mississippi. (Last week, John Edgar Wideman's meditation on Till, Writing to Save a Life, was named a finalist for a National Book Critics Circle Award.) Still, no author save Tyson has ever interviewed Carolyn Bryant Donham. (Her ex-husband and brother-in-law are both dead.) ”That case went a long way toward ruining her life," Tyson contends, explaining that she could never escape its notoriety. His compelling book is suffused with information that Donham, over coffee and pound cake, shared with him in what he calls a ”confessional" spirit.

Carolyn, in fact, had approached Tyson because she was writing her memoirs. (Her manuscript is in the Southern Historical Collection at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill library archives and will not be available for public view until 2036, according to Tyson.) Her daughter had admired Tyson's earlier book, Blood Does Sign My Name, about another racism-inspired murder committed by someone known to Tyson's family. And Tyson himself, a Southern preacher's son, says that when he sat down with Carolyn, she ”could have fit in at a Tyson family reunion"—even at its local church. Clearly, he observed, she had been altered by the social and legal advances that had overtaken the South in the intervening half century. ”She was glad things had changed [and she] thought the old system of white supremacy was wrong, though she had more or less taken it as normal at the time." She didn't officially repent; she was not the type to join any racial reconciliation groups or to make an appearance at the new Emmett Till Interpretive Center, which attempts to promote understanding of the past and point a way forward.
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I just don't really have the time or patience about this lady unless it involves full conviction for conspiracy to murder. They'll hunt Nazis until they die but this lady hiding out in this country. A college student can find her but she gets to live in freedom. I'll be okay if they drag her carcass into jail even for a week. Let her know freedom stolen. One of the most repugnant humans you'll ever read about. It's been hard for her?
 
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Nepenthe

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dave is ok said:
The actual murder was so horrific that it's almost impossible to talk about without getting emotional.
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Why are you trying to discuss a case where a child got lynched in an unproductively detached manner in a thread where the accuser admitted she lied?

Seriously, what the hell is your M.O.?
 
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AlfonzoPalutena

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I'm really glad she said something. Its way way way too late, and everyone always acknowledged that it was totally possible Till did nothing anyway, but his name is finally completely free of any lies. That's kinda nice.
 
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Enzom21

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dave is ok said:
Thank you for the actual conversation instead of calling me a "fucking loser" or turning my posts into memes. I do agree with whoever said she had decades to apologize or come clean and didn't.

The actual murder was so horrific that it's almost impossible to talk about without getting emotional.
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Hey can you post a link that says she died in 2014?
 
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