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Various eShop software download sizes for Nintendo Switch games

Rootbeer

Banned
Could be worse. Could be a LOT worse. Switch could use its own proprietary memory cards. :)

I love cartridges so I'm fine. Still buying a 128GB card just to be safe.

Hope you have deep pockets if you want to go all-digital and plan on picking up most of the big releases. You're going to need it.
 
I think Nintendo games themselves will be compressed well. And DQH, like I said, is an outlier right now simply because the damn thing is two games in one. As for other third party games, that's up in the air. I really hope Nintendo assists with compression in some format, expanded memory or no.
 
I can't believe people don't want more storage and are willing to defend stupidity.

There's nothing stupid about Nintendo's storage decision. The only thing I'd like to see added in the future is the ability to use an external HDD when the system is docked.
 
I'm glad as hell some of you don't work in the video game industry and call the shots. Some stupid ass decisions would have been made.

HD rumble is amazing, tried it out this weekend. And y'all and cheap as fuck if you can't afford a $24 128gb micro sd card.
 

Ninja Dom

Member
This is no longer a discussion. Sorry, but Nintendo has labeled it a console (well, a hybrid, but still). The product stands with console like features, and thus, it acts as one when you dock it. If you want to play cute and say "oh it's only a tablet or whatever", that still doesn't undermine my overall point which is that some consumers might not like this because it costs them more.

This isn't even a discussion about what I was originally stating. Nor is it concern trolling. But I'll leave you both to play semantics or whatever in the corner. Have fun!

You're ignoring the teardown thread and just what Nintendo have packed into the unit. You're ignoring Tekken Harada's comments when he couldn't believe that Nintendo packed that amount of tech into the unit for that "low" price.

You're caught up on the tablet/handheld/console description. Irrelevant, it's a games system, and one we really can't expect to have more storage from the information that's been given to us - without it impacting more on the price.
 

Madao

Member
What, really?

to my understanding, it's because the Blu-Ray drive is too slow to load the games. they'd be full of load times everywhere and would need data packs to help, so they decided to just make the whole thing require an install and call it a day.
 

Terrell

Member
Find me one 500GB game from either of those systems. Hell, find me two games that take up 500GB and force me to buy more memory. I'll wait!

You mean 2 games, right? DQH1+2 is 2 games in a single package.

Absolutely nothing about that port seems palatable right now, right down to its eShop file size.
 

Atheerios

Member
Storage gives me more games, zero fucks given about a vibrator gimmick.



It's Nintendo, expect defense for anything and everything.

Then buy an SD card. And if you don't like that, then go and buy a PS4. It's not like Nintendo really cares about a type of consumer like you, that's not what the Switch is geared towards.
 
Uhh actually it's the "gimmick" that has been giving us more games. No one is forcing you to go digital.

The gimmick isn't giving anything, and when Nintendo left my country they basically did the latter.

Then buy an SD card. And if you don't like that, then go and buy a PS4. It's not like Nintendo really cares about a type of consumer like you, that's not what the Switch is geared towards.

That sure worked fine for the Nintendo Wii U. And guess what? I actually bought another PS4 after the Switch reveal and subsequent weeks.

Nintendo already proved that they give no shit after they left the country so you're right about that.
 
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See, I get why you posted this now, my mind just automatically connected the word size with space in the console even though that isn't how it works.
Made for a good laugh regardless.
 
Internal memory being larger than 32GB without making the system $400+ is extremely unrealistic. Like it or not, if you're going all-digital, you're gonna need a microSD card. Patch sizes are likely also going to be mandated to be massively cut down from what we see on other systems, though "modern patches" are obscenely bloated beyond any level remotely necessary, so this is a good thing, really.

Though, honestly, I don't know why you'd want to go all-digital with this thing, physical cards are leagues faster in terms of load times than discs and far more convenient, especially if you have a carrying case to keep them in.


Have we confirmed that the retail game cards don't require any installs whatsoever?

Read-only game cards being an order of magnitude faster than HDDs is pretty much a given at this point.
 
Storage gives me more games, zero fucks given about a vibrator gimmick.

no console this gen gives you anywhere close to what you need to go full digital even the ps4 pro 1TB of space is a joke even my 2TB in my pro is constantly filling thank god for external hdd support coming to ps4.
 
Not everyone wants to do that, nor should they have to spend more money on a SD card if they want to go digital.

Like I said, DQH is two games in one, so fair play, but it remains to be seen if other games can fit without needing to buy another card.



I don't think I ever downloaded a game that took up too much room on the card provided, to be honest. Not even Smash or BD.

If they went bigger on internal storage it'd throw off the price. Imagine them trying to sell a system for +-350$ in the current marketplace. It'd crash hard.

SD cards are cheap and they are only getting cheaper. I quadrupled my storage for the switch for 30 dollars yesterday. I'd much rather have this be the case.
 

Ninja Dom

Member
The gimmick isn't giving anything, and when Nintendo left my country they basically did the latter.



That sure worked fine for Nintendo Wii U. And guess what? I actually bought another PS4 after the Switch reveal and subsequent weeks.

Sounds like you're not in the market for a Switch anyway. If you're not planning to get one then don't worry so much. This doesn't affect you.
 

Meffer

Member
I bought a 200GB microSD for the Switch and it came in today. I find complaints here weird, people applauded Sony that they put in a patch to support external memory for PS4. And some people here are complaining that the Switch uses a universal form of external memory which doesn't break the bank at all.
 

RRockman

Banned
Storage gives me more games, zero fucks given about a vibrator gimmick.



It's Nintendo, expect defense for anything and everything.


Oh no, the dreaded Nintendo defense force claim. There's no possible way a consumer would prefer having physical games after getting burned on a digital deal. If they don't agree with me they are stupid and therefore are apart of the defense force hive mind right?
 
You're ignoring the teardown thread and just what Nintendo have packed into the unit. You're ignoring Tekken Harada's comments when he couldn't believe that Nintendo packed that amount of tech into the unit for that "low" price.

You're caught up on the tablet/handheld/console description. Irrelevant, it's a games system, and one we really can't expect to have more storage from the information that's been given to us - without it impacting more on the price.

Again, that's fine and well, but as a consumer, I still have to go buy an extra thing. They cut costs on what they feel is important, and that's fine. It could have been much more out of the gate. I'll probably be saving 30 bucks total than if it was 350 going by amazon right now, and that's under the assumption that it'd be so low to manufacture. That doesn't mean Nintendo gets out of criticism for that choice, because I, the consumer, am still impacted.

You can understand a decision that a company makes and still be annoyed with it.
 

Air

Banned
Game sizes are about what I expect, but I won't be going digital for most of my purchases. I like having a physical library
 

madmackem

Member
Course they can, but the reactions at a $400/ $500 SKU for 128/256 GB internal memory surely would have been pretty awful (considering the complaints we already got for the $300 price point).

I'll just dump my $20 128GB microSD in it and be happy.
You've just contradicted yourself there how would having say 128gig in the switch raised the by $200 when you've just said you got one for $20?, you do know that card would've cost Nintendo even less than what you paid right, there's no excuse for the ridiculous 32gig internal when people keep screaming how cheap these cards are they'd be even cheaper to Nintendo bulk buying ffs,
 

jwillenn

Member
There's nothing stupid about Nintendo's storage decision. The only thing I'd like to see added in the future is the ability to use an external HDD when the system is docked.

exactly

I believe that will happen soon. In the meantime, I'll take that 64GB card from Amazon for $15. Only the "currently playing" game will occupy the space. Once the HDD support is ready, I'll have the entire library there (as I do for my Wii U).

It would be dope if Nintendo allowed us to use the same HDD in use for our Wii U games without reformatting.
 

Vitacat

Member
Or i can go full digital and and when i take my switch to a friends house i dont have to carry game cases when we play party games. plus game cases take up way to much space when you buy as many games as i do im full digital on 3ds, wii u, ps4, and xb1 and outside of what i buy at launch most of my switch games will be digital.
The pdp switch cases have 14 cart slots built in. Fourteen. No need for extra cases or whatever. And Switch game carts are teeny tiny.

You can rationalize digital if you wish, but IMO it's a mistake especially on Nintendo systems.

As a related aside, using the recent Bestbuy promo sale this past weekend, I was able to preorder 10 Switch games for between $24 and $36 each. Basically about $350 for all of them. Digitally the same 10 games would cost you nearly $600. And you'll have zero rights to sell, trade or lend them. And you'll definitely need to buy a big, expensive sd card to hold them, assuming they all fit on that card.
 
Here's one thing that comes to mind, do people necessarily need that many games downloaded at a time on a usual basis?
Many of us complain about our backlogs (I.e. many of us do not even play games we buy), and averages Joe's tend to purchase a lot less games.

I'm not saying this isn't an issue for people, I never would, but I'm also saying for some, maybe it isn't as big a problem.
 
So why are people here comparing the portable Switch with the stationary PS4 and XB1 that both carry spinning harddrives that alone would take half of the volume of the Switch itself?

Because they are ignorant to the fact that flash storage gets exponentially grows more expensive after you get above 32 gigs.
 
Honestly at this point the damn thing should come with a 64 gig memory card.

Not a deal breaker but people are right to complain about less than 32 gigs of internal memory given that the OS takes space.
 

Hattori

Banned
You've just contradicted yourself there how would having say 128gig in the switch raised the by $200 when you've just said you got one for $20?, you do know that card would've cost Nintendo even less than what you paid right, there's no excuse for the ridiculous 32gig internal when people keep screaming how cheap these cards are they'd be even cheaper to Nintendo bulk buying ffs,
because embedded memory is more expensive than SD cards
 
I'm probably buying an SD card during Black Friday. I only plan on getting Zelda on cartridge and so far only Mario Kart, Splatoon and PuyoPuyo interest me.
 

Terrell

Member
Have we confirmed that the retail game cards don't require any installs whatsoever?

Yes.

I bought a 200GB microSD for the Switch and it came in today. I find complaints here weird, people applauded Sony that they put in a patch to support external memory for PS4. And some people here are complaining that the Switch uses a universal form of external memory which doesn't break the bank at all.

People want Switch to do everything their hearts desire... for under $300. There's no reconciling reality with people like that. Either that, or they want its primary conceit, its hybrid nature, to be sacrificed to give them what they want. But if that's the case, when we all know that it IS a hybrid, then all that ends up being is whining that the device isn't what they wanted it to be. There's absolutely nothing to be gained by engaging in a discussion with such people, if every Switch thread is anything to go by.
 
Course they can, but the reactions at a $400/ $500 SKU for 128/256 GB internal memory surely would have been pretty awful (considering the complaints we already got for the $300 price point).

I'll just dump my $20 128GB microSD in it and be happy.

You do realize that however much that SD card costs you, it would cost Nintendo a fraction of that amount? Not that Nintendo should or would bundle a cheap SD card, but bumping the internal NAND to, say, 64GB wouldn't bump their costs by $50. Nowhere close.
 

Matt

Member
I've heard some explanation that the blu-ray drives are too slow but running from disc worked perfectly on WiiU, which also used some kind of blu-ray drive, so why was the installs mandatory on PS4 and XB1?
PS4 and XBO need to pull more information more quickly than a BD drive can provide.
 
Here's one thing that comes to mind, do people necessarily need that many games downloaded at a time on a usual basis?
Many of us complain about our backlogs (I.e. many of us do not even play games we buy), and averages Joe's tend to purchase a lot less games.

I'm not saying this isn't an issue for people, I never would, but I'm also saying for some, maybe it isn't as big a problem.

I have my entire library inside my N3DS. All of it, more than half of my 128GB microSD filled.
 

D.Lo

Member
I buy my games physically whenever possible. I buy indies etc on downloads. My Wii U still has 4GB free.

I'm very glad I'm not paying more for more installed storage I will not need. I would be happy if all consoles came with no storage (apart from some core storage for OS) so it's up to the user to decide how much they need, and can buy accordingly.

Maybe Nintendo should have made the internal storage 16GB and chucked in a cheap 64GB SD card just to shut up the haters, so now it 'comes with 80GB' - even though that's actually a worse situation IMO.
 

madmackem

Member
I bought a 200GB microSD for the Switch and it came in today. I find complaints here weird, people applauded Sony that they put in a patch to support external memory for PS4. And some people here are complaining that the Switch uses a universal form of external memory which doesn't break the bank at all.
I got a 1tb hdd included in the cost of my ps4 I'm getting 32gigs in my switch included in the price, if you can't see the difference then I don't know what to say.
 

EctoPrime

Member
I expected Square to try and cram Dragon Quest Heroes 1+2 into a 16GB card by having hours of video files in 540p. The video must be higher resolution than that,possibly 900p.
 
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