I'm not saying give us it all in embedded memory put an sd card in there, I really don't get people defending this at all.
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Various eShop software download sizes for Nintendo Switch games
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Fredrik
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The games were smaller on Vita though. A 64GB SDXC card cost like $15-20 but how many Switch games do you fit on it? I guess some games are Vita sized but we already have a launch title at 32GB and they'll likely get bigger over time. 200-256GB is probably what you want to have, which is a bit more expensive.
Because I'd expect Nintendo to upgrade the internal storage and not just throw a microSD card my way.
LinkSlayer64
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Look, I literally said "I'm not saying this isn't an issue for people" I was just stating that for some it probably isn't as big an issue, and explaining why. I did not say it wasn't an issue for everyone.
Can't be unreasonable about demands when you were never interested in buying the console in the first place.
Seriously though. It's a portable console. It's not a Xbox One or PS4 so expecting a portable to do everything they do is just absurd.
I'm still hoping that they patch in HDD support for the Dock. I'm not sure it's something I'll use despite going all digital, but I'm sure it's a feature many people would love to have instead of having to buy extra or bigger mSD cards or deal with having to delete and redownload games. Having a cheap storage solution that maybe you could even play from could be a welcome feature for some.
End of the day there realy wasn't any other choice in the matter. 64gb would definitely have been better, but it really wouldn't have changed things much and still might have increased the system price. More than likely it would have eaten into Nintendo's profits. Beyond that is just completely unfeasible though. 128gb would have been way too expensive, let alone 256gb which is the largest available right now.
I expect a lot of people will being going physical for a lot of their games, especially the larger ones. I expect BotW will be my only physical game, but we'll see. I have a 200gb mSD card and that should hopefully last me a long while. I don't expect many games being 32 like DQ. Even something like Xenoblade 2 probably won't be much larger than the size of XCX which was at ~22gb.
End of the day there realy wasn't any other choice in the matter. 64gb would definitely have been better, but it really wouldn't have changed things much and still might have increased the system price. More than likely it would have eaten into Nintendo's profits. Beyond that is just completely unfeasible though. 128gb would have been way too expensive, let alone 256gb which is the largest available right now.
I expect a lot of people will being going physical for a lot of their games, especially the larger ones. I expect BotW will be my only physical game, but we'll see. I have a 200gb mSD card and that should hopefully last me a long while. I don't expect many games being 32 like DQ. Even something like Xenoblade 2 probably won't be much larger than the size of XCX which was at ~22gb.
The difference is the cost of those components.
It's simply not an apples to apples comparison.
In addition, someone could theoretically have a very large Switch library and never need additional storage space. That's not true for the PS4.
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How big are the DQH games on Vita? I assumed the reason the game looks like the Vita version was because of file size limits, but 32 GB seems fairly large. I can't find the sizes via Google.
The internal memory for the Switch is mainly to be used for storing save data, Nintendo reps have stated that because the game cards are read-only. Everything else that are games, patches, DLC will get stored on the microSD card if one is used.
They could've made the flash storage bigger, but then they would've increased the cost of the system for consumers.
People who were going to go digital only would've been inconvenienced by the 32GB of storage however, it would have been inconvenient for the people primarily buying physical games if the cost went up just to increase the storage.
I wouldn't want Nintendo bumping up the cost of the system to have more storage if it would be cheaper for me to use a microSDXC card instead.
If you were planning to go all digital then you were going to buy an SD card anyway, you knew that 32GB wouldn't be enough in the first place.
They could've made the flash storage bigger, but then they would've increased the cost of the system for consumers.
People who were going to go digital only would've been inconvenienced by the 32GB of storage however, it would have been inconvenient for the people primarily buying physical games if the cost went up just to increase the storage.
I wouldn't want Nintendo bumping up the cost of the system to have more storage if it would be cheaper for me to use a microSDXC card instead.
If you were planning to go all digital then you were going to buy an SD card anyway, you knew that 32GB wouldn't be enough in the first place.
You don't have to go out and buy a Micro SD Card to play DQ Heroes 1&2. There is another option available to you which is to buy it physically.
If you come and join us in the different Switch buying discussion threads then you'll see that we're constantly discussing best prices for Micro SD cards. It's an added cost that we're all expecting and ready to pay.
HDD is way cheaper though.
D.Lo
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If you want speeds comparable to the Switch's load speed, and the load speed of a decent SD card, You'll need to take remove that 1TB HDD, throw it in the garbage can, and buy a good SSD.
The Switch is a portable, of course it's not going to come with, or support, cheap slow-ass moving parts storage.
bobbychalkers
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I really don't see the 1:1 complaint of storage space between the Switch and other consoles....There is no installing. Unless your adamant on going digital only (and you'd be in the market for more than the stock size anyway, hell even stock PS4 or Xbox hard drive wouldn't cut it), you don't even really need to buy an SD card. The main worry should be if their patch sizes get out of hand like the other consoles do. Seeing as how the Switch isn't getting the cutting edge western AAA games that do this regularly, I don't even think that will be too much of an issue.
I'm only responding to how you phrased your post. They could and probably should include an SD card, but I'm not really sure what the margins on the console are or how feasible it is to include one, so I won't comment on it any further.
Flying Toaster
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Within the first year even going all digital no one should need more than a 200 GB microsd card.
Hold on, so you bought an extra 128GB Micro SD Card for your New Nintendo 3DS and you're here complaining?
With 32GB of internal storage I suspect that it will be almost mandatory for everyone to buy an SD card eventually if they plan on buying eShop, VC games, DLC and want to patch their retail games.
I think the shocker here for some isn't that people who want to buy all of their games digitally have to buy an SD card... it's that there's a game that literally won't fit on the included memory by itself.
I think the shocker here for some isn't that people who want to buy all of their games digitally have to buy an SD card... it's that there's a game that literally won't fit on the included memory by itself.
Starfish Hero
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Nice to see commentary on GAF has finally caught up with GameFAQs, what with all the "defense force" talk lately
Welcome to the last year of Nintendo threads.
LinkSlayer64
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Could I get a link to these specific threads btw?
Fredrik
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But what about WiiU? Sure the resolution is usually lower but there are still streaming open-world games like Assassin's Creed and Xenoblade which should need super fast loading.
Either way, going all physical on PS4 and XB1 hasn't been as satisfying as on WiiU, you're just filling up the internal storage from the disc instead of the net. After the install is done it's basically all digital at that point and it's just annoying that you still need the disc.
Maintenance
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Bought it a long time ago. And yes, I'm complaining because Switch games will be multiple times bigger than 3DS games. The equivalent of what I did with the 3DS would be a 2TB MicroSD, which is ridiculous.
It's also funny reading back the comments saying "Yeah, Nintendo is probably not for you".
I'm not sure where you've been! Gaf has always been full of people who call others "corporate ballwashers" and "defense forces" for not agreeing with them
Vital Tundra
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the difference being ones an incredibly cheap, large, storage device with moving parts and the other the exact opposite.
I see that as unfortunate, but shocking? I dunno, most folks who buy devices like these ought to be used to buying an SD card to go along with it, no? Some people won't know or won't think of it, but I don't see it being a wide spread complaint.
It's the FMV.
ArcaneFreeze
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Surprised DQ1+2 is only 32gb considering buying both on PS4 will run you up to nearly 50GB.
Concerntrollistic...come on man. It's pretty damn realistic to expect your new home console to be able to fit a game without forcing you to buy external storage. Especially since they don't even offer a version of the console with extra storage out of the gate. Lol the defense of this thing...it's okay for Nintendo to have not gotten everything 100% right.
Dawnbuster
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Been tempted to pick up a micro SD card before my Switch arrives, but waiting for some people to test load times on the various SD versions to see if there's any advantage to buying a faster one.
Or if game cards are faster/slower than micro SD.
Or if game cards are faster/slower than micro SD.
Hello,
I am considering going all digital. Can someone list the pros and cons?
For example a poster said download times would be longer on an SD vs gamecard. Is this verified?
Are purchases tied to a My Nintendo account ? So we can download the game on multiple Switch we own? Has Nintendo said when this sharing will be available (not at launch).
Also, another poster mentioned reselling- I rarely do that so it would be ok for me.
Are download games by Nintendo usually the same cost as retail? More or less?
Someone knowledgeable about this topic, please help us!
Thank you!
I am considering going all digital. Can someone list the pros and cons?
For example a poster said download times would be longer on an SD vs gamecard. Is this verified?
Are purchases tied to a My Nintendo account ? So we can download the game on multiple Switch we own? Has Nintendo said when this sharing will be available (not at launch).
Also, another poster mentioned reselling- I rarely do that so it would be ok for me.
Are download games by Nintendo usually the same cost as retail? More or less?
Someone knowledgeable about this topic, please help us!
Thank you!
You can use multiple SDs.
It's not a big deal for me, since I'll be buying retail...
I think the issue is that I could easily imagine it being an issue/unexpected for some kids and uninformed parents.
Ultimately, I'd rather Nintendo didn't put a size limit on game size, but I do understand arguments otherwise.
outunderthestars
Banned
God this "I have to have my entire library on my device at all times or else" stuff is giving me Vita flashbacks.....
RichiRamjag
Member
Ive got a nice big SD card, but you've almost convinced me into physical lol. I just hate managing all that media.
We don't have tests yet, but read only cards (which Switch cards are confirmed to be... all game saves are tied to the system, not the card) are faster than read/write media.
When Tekken was a launch game for WiiU it was also 32gb and wouldnt fit, as far as I'm aware that was the biggest game by far, at the very least the biggest game I'm aware of. I was able to fit 2-3 retail games and several indies before filling it up, and with a cheap 32gb usb was able to have more than nessesary. You can nearly fit every launch game in 32gb, it will be fine. But its also good that storage is cheap, will probably get a 64-128gb card before investing in a bigger one a couple of years in.
ElMexiMerican
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Probably not since they've only stated it's coming in March. If download size were an indication of it being available for launch, than MK8D's would also indicate it coming out, but that isn't the case.
Mario Kart 8D is also listed.
Oh, didn't think that'd take that much space, tsk.
Probably not, since MK8D isn't coming out until late April.
No, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe isn't a launch game either...
akidnamededdy
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People freaking out about Dragon Quest lol. I'm not even full digital on my Xbox One and I had to buy an external for extra storage.
It's kind of a given that if you plan on going full digital for any modern system you'll need to purchase extra storage.
At least micro SD is cheap as fuck.
It's kind of a given that if you plan on going full digital for any modern system you'll need to purchase extra storage.
Unless you're posting in a Nintendo thread I guess.
At least micro SD is cheap as fuck.
Purchases will be tied to your account, that is confirmed. I'm not sure whether SD is faster or slower then cards in terms of speed. That depends on the SD you use.
Nintendo's digital version cost the same as retail though they sometimes do sales but don't drop in price as low compared to say Sony's or MS's. Hope that helps.
Read my other post on the previous page, and you'll be convinced even more!
Trust me, as an old Vita user who thought it would be cool going all digital... ugh. Bad mistake, and I'll not make it again.