Netherscourge
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$300 billion for the Wall of Trump!
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CBO score released on ACHA - 14 million - 2018 - 24 million more uninsured 2026
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Emerson
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This shit isn't passing.
Healthcare reform has already become a massive sticky issue for the Republicans. Just look at the town halls during the last recess week. Plenty of these millions proposed to be uninsured are Republican voters. Despite 8 years of ignorance they have finally figured out they're on the chopping block too. If the GOP continues full steam ahead their next recess in April is going to be a complete shitshow. And if they pass it anyway, 2018 is a fucking bloodbath for them.
Healthcare reform has already become a massive sticky issue for the Republicans. Just look at the town halls during the last recess week. Plenty of these millions proposed to be uninsured are Republican voters. Despite 8 years of ignorance they have finally figured out they're on the chopping block too. If the GOP continues full steam ahead their next recess in April is going to be a complete shitshow. And if they pass it anyway, 2018 is a fucking bloodbath for them.
Dead Prince
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That about covers the wall. Thanks poor American for funding it
pinsomniac
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Pretty easy to save $300bn if you're just going to dismantle health care. The only reason that figure is so low is because it's offset by Ryan's tax cuts.
LegendofJoe
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Yup now is the time to get every Dem on national tv calling it Trumpcare.
Takamura-San
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I don't get it... isn't the title of the bill the world greatest healthcare plan?
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The original plan was to pass this first and then cut taxes for the rich, and because the whole thing could be done deficit-neutral the tax cuts could be made permanent. They want to avoid what happened with the Bush tax cuts where Obama was able to prevent their renewal after ten years.
NullPointer
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I hear Trump's on the other side, too, but they call him a different name. So don't go dying yet!
GameAddict411
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It might be the only way the GOP loses the election. It's tempting to just say that they should pass this so it slaps all these Republicans voters, but many people will die. Many more will get sick and get bankrupt. It's a very sad situation.
Those old Trump voters will have it rough.
2018 midterms are gonna be a bloodbath if this shit passes.
Raitosaito
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Let's say the GOP really believes this plan helps Americans, where is there actual evidence to back it up now that the CBO score is out?
Like, do they govern base on evidence or fact? At all?
Like, do they govern base on evidence or fact? At all?
I don't think people realize how inconsequential 30 billion a year is.
The fact that Ryan is willing to take away healthcare for 14 million people over that amount is asinine.
So if these people don't pay into health care fees will rise for the people still using it right?
So they do take away health insurance from poor people because they will not be able to pay for it? Or is the american goverment covering it otherwise to keep insurance fees at a stable rate?
NullPointer
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And then they came for you, Trump voters.
Those old Trump voters will have it rough.
2018 midterms are gonna be a bloodbath if this shit passes.
It would "help" people by giving them "freedom."
Outdoor Miner
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That Paul Ryan sure is a policy wonk. THE WONKIEST.
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fredrancour
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he's not taking health care away from millions of people to save the government money
he's taking health care away from millions of people so the tax cut he's giving to his rich buddies looks less repulsive.
It's like a negging situation really. Remember when he said he loves stupid people and how the people of Iowa were idiots for not voting for him but then he won that state? This is the natural conclusion. Killing millions of people.
Emerson
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And I said nothing because they did it to themselves.
https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/841386376151068672
CBO acknowledges how its missed on previous health care projections.
Let's see how the GOP spins this.
Yet, he added 54 Billion to the military budget although we almost triple the next country's military budget, 600 Billion vs 212 billion.
Sounds like it's working as plan. Obamacare and those 23 million gaining insurance angered so much of America that them all losing it seems to be what they wanted.
LegendofJoe
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It'd not asinine, it's the actions of a sociopath.
Ugh, even Fox News points out how absurd it is to remove the money out of Obamacare to give it all back to the rich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbRbe3UCKUo
Paul Ryan's response: Trickle down economics! "ECONOMIC GROWTH!" ROFL
Fuck you, Paul Ryan.
Paul Ryan's response: Trickle down economics! "ECONOMIC GROWTH!" ROFL
Fuck you, Paul Ryan.
Yeah, that's how the racket seems to go. If Americans want affordable health care, all they have to do is be healthy enough to not need it.
Then like, why are you buying insurance lol? Once you get sick and old you're fucked.
Hasphat'sAnts
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It's worth pointing out that the CBO did say a good portion of the 14 million are leaving voluntarily due to the mandate repeal. So the word "Lose" is slightly misleading.
But nonetheless, if they do get sick, they're SOL regardless of whether they were forced off or left off voluntarily.
But nonetheless, if they do get sick, they're SOL regardless of whether they were forced off or left off voluntarily.
Correct the price of coverage will undoubtedly go up over time. Insurance cannot work without healthy people paying into it. The current Trump plan has major flaws but allowing healthy people to get out is arguably the biggest flaw. Everything I have read on either side of the aisle has said as much. NPR this morning had various former insurance and policy folks who spoke on the topic and highlight this very issue.
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