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[Amibguous Cad]

It's not even up to 22 million dead. You don't need to quantify the number of deaths to get the taking point access. How about just using "many" or "significant"?

Pretty easily, actually.

I mean, they're not hard and fast, but obamacare was a wonderful natural experiment, in that some states took the Medicaid expansion and some didn't. You can compare how far the fatality rate fell in states that took Medicaid expansion to the states that didn't, weighted for number of additional people covered by insurance. Crunching the numbers you're at a little over 1,000 deaths for every million uninsured. Vox ran the numbers here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...17/3/14/14921962/ahca-mortality-gun-homicides

I wouldn't trust any specific number, but every estimate is on the same order of magnitude. We're talking about tens of thousands of people a year.

If Vox's estimate is correct, the federal government would save lives by dropping a nuclear bomb on Santa Fe instead of passing the bill.

In its first year it would kill more Americans than the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, and every terrorist attack since the founding of the Republic.

By it's third year it will have killed more Americans than the Vietnam War.

If it's not stopped, the death toll by its twentieth anniversary will outstrip American casualties in World War II.

 

[Fenderputty]

lol Tennessee

 

[Tovarisc]

Full statement from @club4growth

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/879752772522061825

 

[RPGCrazied]

Jeff Zeleny‏Verified account
@jeffzeleny

McConnell delaying health care vote until after July 4th recess. GOP senators invited to White House this afternoon to circle the wagons.

lol, guess it all fell apart. Good news.

 

[Tovarisc]

lol, guess it all fell apart. Good news.

Vote before recess fell apart.

Bill is still alive and going strong.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

Vote before recess fell apart.

Bill is still alive and going strong.

I haven't seen it corroborated yet.

But it's massive if true. Senate hopes to pull a house and ram it through before the public knew what was going on. Now we've got the entire recess to bring down the house at town halls, organize protests, and educate the public. And the more the public knows about this bill the more they hate it.

 

[Tovarisc]

I haven't seen it corroborated yet.

But it's massive if true. Senate hopes to pull a house and ram it through before the public knew what was going on. Now we've got the entire recess to bring down the house at town halls, organize protests, and educate the public. And the more the public knows about this bill the more they hate it.

CNN also got this delay story through own sourcing: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/27/politics/republican-health-care-bill-vote-delayed/index.html

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https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/879759301006565376

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/879758861426622466

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AARP strongly opposes Senate GOP health bill, urges senators to vote no

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/879760458047213568

 

[The Last Wizard]

Later on at the White House at 4pm...

 

[Beer Monkey]

Tonight feels like the perfect time for a Russian oppo drop.

 

[gaugebozo]

Senator Pat Toomey

https://twitter.com/SenToomey/status/879681368367779842

Interesting he brings that up. They only forecast 13 million losing their health insurance, but because of the increase in people covered, it GROWS the deficit.

 

[Gruco]

And studies can't find that providing people with Medicaid actually gives them better health outcomes at all:

http://theweek.com/articles/678815/medicaid-terrible-republicans-fix

Insurance is great and lack of coverage is terrifying (medical bankruptcy = bad) but aren't we supposed to be the side that believes in science, data and education, instead of superstition and bullshit? Then let's hold ourselves to that higher standard.

I mean, you're really going to explicitly misrepresent the conclusions of the Oregon study, ignore the rest of the literature completely, and then complain about how everyone else is being bad at the whole science, data, and education thing?

 

[BoogieWoogie]

@frankthorp

Graham tells @kasie that if GOP doesn't reach an agreement on health care by Friday it'll be the end of the 1 party health care talks.

Lol good luck doing this by Friday.

 

[CornBurrito]

I mean, you're really going to explicitly misrepresent the conclusions of the Oregon study, ignore the rest of the literature completely, and then complain about how everyone else is being bad at the whole science, data, and education thing?

That's David's shtick. The center at any cost, even if it means fudging or ignoring evidence. And also never defend your initial post once countered. Drive bys allow you to stilll feel like you delivered a South Park "both sides r wrong I am right" ending speech.

"Insurance is great" said without a hint of irony. Because needless middle men that inflate the cost of health care are great. Single payer would be bad because that's not a centrist position. All hail insurance companies. They really care about us.

 

[Diablos]

Interesting he brings that up. They only forecast 13 million losing their health insurance, but because of the increase in people covered, it GROWS the deficit.

Toomey is such a hack. McGinty should have his job right now. Hate this asshole.

 

[Jackpot]

And studies can't find that providing people with Medicaid actually gives them better health outcomes at all:

http://theweek.com/articles/678815/medicaid-terrible-republicans-fix

For you to post such a flagrantly misleading article is really disappointing. And I was such a big fan of JDATE.