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NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread

I don't even necessarily want to buy stuff from Emil half the time, I just want to hear him say "Thanks, friendo!"
The fact that it doesn't match the subs makes it even better. I know it's almost certainly an error in the text, but I like to think the VA just got really into character and adlibbed.
 

Eumi

Member
So does anyone else see Emils shop song being the original Niers theme as... kind of depressing?

Like, it's this beautiful amazing song, but it's like Emil can only remember the tune without context, so he turned it into a jingle to sell his junk.

He should team up with pascal. Really turn those child cores into big business.
 

Gigaryu

Neo Member
AH so maybe that gives us more insight on the words "It always ends the same way" she says in the end of Chapter A and B.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
was anyone else disappointed with the second Emil fight being a reskin of the first A2 boss?

I wish they would have done something a little more hardcore for that.

they should have substituted hegel for another boss or a enemy barrage
 
Finally got to that second Emil fight. Think I've just about done everything, ready to delete that save file.

Honestly for how long I spent play thing game, I can't believe I feel so excited to play through it all again sometime soon.
 

Metroidvania

People called Romanes they go the house?
Disclaimer: I still need to get through ending E, am trying to finish up all the other joke-endings first.

So just to be clear, the 'cycle' of Android/machine war --> one side gets an advantage ---> wipe everything out --> re-build-up --> restart the war has happened more than once already? Or just 2B killing 9S during a bunch of missions via some form or another.

Because A2's dialogue to 9S only indicates that 2B has killed him a bunch of times, as does the 'this always happens' espoused by 2B in ending A....

And the overall cycle of androids vs machines is perpetuated (either the original conflict, or the 2nd/3rd/etc... variation therein) by this machine consciousness (that is also faking being the humans on the Moon) for....what purpose?

The two holo-girls are kinda obtuse (though they also mention evolving to a higher form of consciousness via conflict with the androids) and my mind was trying to take it all in at the time. Ending D indicates that they want to leave Earth, but I'm still not sure I get their intent (as machines who have gained consciousness after the aliens landed)
 

Samikaze

Member
Disclaimer: I still need to get through ending E, am trying to finish up all the other joke-endings first.

So just to be clear, the 'cycle' of Android/machine war --> one side gets an advantage ---> wipe everything out --> re-build-up --> restart the war has happened more than once already? Or just 2B killing 9S during a bunch of missions via some form or another.

It's theorized that it's happened 14 times, because A2 was at the battle of "Pearl Harbor" during the 14th Machine War. The YoRHa unit with 9S and 2B is all new though.

Because A2's dialogue to 9S only indicates that 2B has killed him a bunch of times, as does the 'this always happens' espoused by 2B in ending A....

Yeah they have, but in their own cycle. 2B is assigned to watch 9S to make sure he doesn't realize humanity is gone. His recon skills are too valuable to just leave behind.[/B]

And the overall cycle of androids vs machines is perpetuated (either the original conflict, or the 2nd/3rd/etc... variation therein) by this machine consciousness (that is also faking being the humans on the Moon) for....what purpose?

They're separate. I think.
There's still something on the moon. Some supplies were sent, but most were empty.
Someone has to be receiving those, just not humans. Most likely whoever leads the Androids.
The Machines wanted to delete this data to move the war forward into a new War Cycle. Each cycle brings them closer to evolving, and closer to emulating humanity, which both sides idolize.


The two holo-girls are kinda obtuse and my mind was trying to take it all in at the time. Ending D indicates that they want to leave Earth, but I'm still not sure I get their intent (as machines who have gained consciousness after the aliens landed)

My belief is that they're just there for visualization of the machine network consciousness.


My answers in Bold and Underlined
 

Squire

Banned
So which person did you prefer to play as for the climax of Route C/D? 9S or A2?

It was far more awkward to play as 9S due to his rage, but he had the much cooler fight (especially with Overclock and the Engine Blade equipped), so I'm going with him.

A2.

I was honestly dreading getting Ending D because of how vicious 9S was.

A2 because I knew 9s had intention of just taking revenge and killing himself in some suicide attack. A2 would of at least tried to do something to help him. Isn't A1 ending canon to E since 9s lost an arm in her ending but kept both in his while ending e shows him with a missing arm.

If you chapter select into ending E, it shows the last scene from ending C before starting the credits fight. So yeah, if there's a canon path it's A = B > C > E

D is the worst case scenario. It definitely not supposed to end like that LOL
 

BADMAN

Member
So I'm playing again on my double dipped PC version after playing all the way through on the HK ps4 version and I noticed something really odd. The robot philosopher in Pascal's village had a name change from Sartre to Jean-Paul. Obviously this character is a direct reference to Jean-Paul Sartre but why change his name for the US version?

Is this some really strange form of censorship? It's a bizarre conclusion but I can't think of any other reason to do a name change from the much more identifiable Sartre to the less obvious Jean-Paul. Maybe making it less obvious was supposed to make it less "on the nose" but I find it extremely odd.
 

Jiraiza

Member
So I'm playing again on my double dipped PC version after playing all the way through on the HK ps4 version and I noticed something really odd. The robot philosopher in Pascal's village had a name change from Sartre to Jean-Paul. Obviously this character is a direct reference to Jean-Paul Sartre but why change his name for the US version?

Is this some really strange form of censorship? It's a bizarre conclusion but I can't think of any other reason to do a name change from the much more identifiable Sartre to the less obvious Jean-Paul. Maybe making it less obvious was supposed to make it less "on the nose" but I find it extremely odd.

Copyright issues.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I'm not sure what to think about it haha.
It was my favorite track of the first game. It was so full of emotion.
And here comes Emil being Emil. Turning it into a hilarious little song.

Everytime i hear him zooming around the map blaring his music i just internally smile.

It was a bit immersion breaking though cause he came around the crater just as A2 was going into the tower...they were trying to have this somber send off and here comes emil singing that damn song lmao

A2.

I was honestly dreading getting Ending D because of how vicious 9S was.

If you chapter select into ending E, it shows the last scene from ending C before starting the credits fight. So yeah, if there's a canon path it's A = B > C > E

D is the worst case scenario. It definitely not supposed to end like that LOL

Yeah i think D is probably not the intended route. It makes me feel better cause A2 didn't deserve to get offed like that. And 9S just looked like even more of an idiot falling on someone else's sword and dying by accident
 

Samikaze

Member
Everytime i hear him zooming around the map blaring his music i just internally smile.

It was a bit immersion breaking though cause he came around the crater just as A2 was going into the tower...they were trying to have this somber send off and here comes emil singing that damn song lmao
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He always does that shit with me!

Nice, somber moment
VROOM! YADEE HA CHO CHA CHE CHEE DE DOOOO!"
 

Sevyne

Member
So I'm playing again on my double dipped PC version after playing all the way through on the HK ps4 version and I noticed something really odd. The robot philosopher in Pascal's village had a name change from Sartre to Jean-Paul. Obviously this character is a direct reference to Jean-Paul Sartre but why change his name for the US version?

Is this some really strange form of censorship? It's a bizarre conclusion but I can't think of any other reason to do a name change from the much more identifiable Sartre to the less obvious Jean-Paul. Maybe making it less obvious was supposed to make it less "on the nose" but I find it extremely odd.

Beauvoir had a name change of similar fashion. NA version changes the name to Simone. Both still being a reference to the same person (Simone de Beouvoir). I kind of feel you may be on the money in assuming they wanted to be less on the nose.

I see no issue with it, but an interesting change nonetheless.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Man I'm buying a new GPU so selling off some of my stuff to make it easier and that includes selling this game off, but I don't want to for some reason eventhough I've done everything and got plat (semi-legit way, didn't bother to get trophies for grindy stuff).

Why do I have such an attachment to this game lol
 

Squire

Banned
Man I'm buying a new GPU so selling off some of my stuff to make it easier and that includes selling this game off, but I don't want to for some reason eventhough I've done everything and got plat (semi-legit way, didn't bother to get trophies for grindy stuff).

Why do I have such an attachment to this game lol

It's one of the few games I'm actually really glad o have a physical copy of to keep. I'm still thinking about it. It's got 1-2 minor flaws, but I think it's this guy's magnum opus, the best game SE has released since at least FFXII, a masterpiece, and probably one of my favorite games ever.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Mankind went extinct but what about the Replicants? Or were they the ones that had to fend off the aliens at that point?

The replicants died of age and new ones weren't created as there were no Gestalts to gather the data from for the Replicant creation system.
 

Jiraiza

Member
2B symbolically kills 9S again in the form of the sword in ending D.

Thanks, Taro.

Spoiler tags because I accidently dropped this bomb in the wrong god damn thread. Fuck me.
 

Majmun

Member
I was actually hoping there would be missions on the moon. That would be great

But yeah, I saw the plot twist coming.

I hope NieR 3 takes places between NieR and NieR Automata. Some crazy shit must've happened during that period.
 

BriGuy

Member
I can't find or quite parse the lyrics to Emil's song. Not the "da da doo dee" stuff, but the actual English (it's there if you listen long enough or catch him at the right moment). I just know it ends with "everything is great...when you're me!"
 

Hektor

Member
I can't find or quite parse the lyrics to Emil's song. Not the "da da doo dee" stuff, but the actual English (it's there if you listen long enough or catch him at the right moment). I just know it ends with "everything is great...when you're me!"

My stuff's so cheap
That you will not believe how much you can save
So swing on by and then purchase things til you're broke

Prices so low that you need a great sword
To slash them more
Any lower would be illegal
Really

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Buy stuff now or kick yourself later

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
I won't even charge or markup

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Better buy now or you'll cry all night

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Every day is great when you're me
 

Kthulhu

Member
My stuff's so cheap
That you will not believe how much you can save
So swing on by and then purchase things til you're broke

Prices so low that you need a great sword
To slash them more
Any lower would be illegal
Really

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Buy stuff now or kick yourself later

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
I won't even charge or markup

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Better buy now or you'll cry all night

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Every day is great when you're me

He would have a song like that. What a goofball.
 

Weiss

Banned
Don't think about it.

I think the plan was that reproduction would come back once they were reunited with their Gestalts. But I haven't seen anything confirming or denying that.

According to Grimoire NieR the Replicants are taken to a facility and put to sleep by their overseeing androids, and then they're handed a Replicant baby.

Actually I've now just realized that the whole thing about Replicants is really in-line with this game's themes of endless cyclical content (they're even called the Recycled Vessels). The same bodies are constantly reborn over and over until the Black Scrawl kills them and wipes their DNA out of the pool.
 
Just beat the third playthrough, and it's an amazing game.

I wish they did something more different in the second playthrough. It became a chore doing it back to back with the first one. The third picks it up amazingly though!
 

Weiss

Banned
Out of all of Taro's protagonists, I think Zero wins the Sufferlympics. She deserves freedom from Yoko Taro's wild ride.

The best thing about Zero is that
Caim and Nier are presented as traditional heroes who are eventually revealed to be messed up, but for Zero it's the opposite. The people she kills are all already dead and there's nothing she can do to save them, and her sisters are all monstrous fakes. She's arguably the most traditionally heroic Yoko protagonist.
 
The best thing about Zero is that
Caim and Nier are presented as traditional heroes who are eventually revealed to be messed up, but for Zero it's the opposite. The people she kills are all already dead and there's nothing she can do to save them, and her sisters are all monstrous fakes. She's arguably the most traditionally heroic Yoko protagonist.
I never really thought about it that way. Neat.
I don't know if I would call her stint as a serial killer after escaping the brothel "heroic" though :lol

Really? Even more than Emil?
I was referring to the main characters of the series. Emil probably wins overall, but at least he found happiness as a truck (unless you murder him, I mean).
 

Hektor

Member
Really? Even more than Emil?

Emil

Got kidnapped as a kid 5 suffering points
Turned into a weapon 2 suffering points
Lived for thousand years lonely with a butler in a scary house 5 suffering points
Eventually forced to kill his mutated sister 10 suffering points
Kills a village full of innocent people 8 suffering points
Gets nuked by Popola 10 suffering points
Rolls around headless for years, but has fun 3 suffering points
Eventually clones himself and fights alien invasions 10 suffering points
Goes insane 25 suffering points
Turns himself into a car +-0 suffering points

Total: 78 suffering points

Zero

Is sold by her own mother5.5 suffering points
Used as a prositute 15 suffering points
Gets betrayed and nearly killed by her friend 5 suffering points
Gets captioned and tortured 10 suffering points
Gets jumped on by evil gods 10 suffering points
Is then doomed to kill humanity 5 suffering points
Tries to kill herself, unsuccessfully 5 suffering points
Suddenly gives birth to a bunch of semiclones 10 suffering points
Is forced to run around and kill them all, but has fun on the journey 5 suffering points
"Dies" multiple times in the process 2 suffering points
Eventually becomes doom of mankind anyways 5 suffering points
Successfully killed anyways 5 suffering points
Theory: Comes back as Queenbeast and kills half of Fakeeurope until she's being killed in RealTokyo and eventually dooms Mankind to death with the white chlorination syndrome being the cause for everything 15 suffering points if true

Total: 82.5 or 97.5 suffering points
 
Emil

Got kidnapped as a kid 5 suffering points
Turned into a weapon 2 suffering points
Lived for thousand years lonely with a butler in a scary house 5 suffering points
Eventually forced to kill his mutated sister 10 suffering points
Kills a village ful of innocent people 8 suffering points
Gets nuked by Popola 10 suffering points
Rolls around headless for years, but has fun 3 suffering points
Eventually clones himself and fights alien invasions 10 suffering points
Goes insane 25 suffering points
Turns himself into a car +-0 suffering points

Total: 78 suffering points

Zero

Is enslaved as a child 5 suffering points
Used as a prositute 15 suffering points
Gets betrayed and nearly killed by her friend 5 suffering points
Gets captioned and tortured 10 suffering points
Gets jumped on by evil gods 10 suffering points
Is then doomed to kill humanity 5 suffering points
Tries to kill herself, unsuccessfully 5 suffering points
Suddenly gives birth to a bunch of semiclones 10 suffering points
Is forced to run around and kill them all, but has fun on the journy 5 suffering points
"Dies" multiple times in the process 2 suffering points
Eventually becomes doom of mankind anyways 5 suffering points
Successfully killed anyways 5 suffering points
Theory: Comes back as Queenbeast and kills half of Fakeeurope until she's being killed in RealTokyo and eventually dooms Mankind to death with the white chlorination syndrome being the cause for everything 15 suffering points if true

Total: 82 or 97 suffering points
Nitpick: she wasn't enslaved, she was sold by her own mother. That's at least another .5ASU(Arbitrary Suffering Units).
 
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