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Playtonic removes JonTron from Yooka-Laylee.

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L Thammy

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All hail His Majesty Messofanego the First. By the Grace of God, of the NeoGAF King, Defender of the Gaming Side, Arch-treasurer and Prince-Elector of Off-Topic, Duke of Playtonic. I pledge my allegiance to you, my lord, and vow to eternally be your faithful servant.
 

L Thammy

Member
Actually, if Playtonic is listening, I have a very important message.

I'm really, really sorry if I've ever mispelt your company name as Playtronic. I'm trying to catch myself when I do it but I'm sure I must have slipped up a few times. I know you're trying to manage your brand and that probably isn't helping.
 
I'm surprised no one has gone racist towards me on this occasion :p

You're a key player. They're probably afraid


Edit: That Jonno PR guy is a hero.

His response to all the alt-right people crying over the removed white supremacist.
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Zasa

Member
I love waking up to see this thread still. Now hopefully this is still just the beginning of the blowback for him.
 

SMD

Member
Genuine question, every time I look at this thread another 10 or so pages are added. How? I don't even get what's under debate now.
 

Mael

Member
If you ask me there should be a way to make money neonazis (let's call a spade a spade) have combust every time they make some neonazi shit like expressing how much they want brown people dead or deported.
Barring that any money they have that goes to waste or to something that actively work against them is acceptable.
 

Bossking

Banned
Sassy on Twitter is in these days. Wendy and Arby's social media game is on point.

Rare is also a company that deliberately mocks and antagonizes its fans within their own games (something that's part of their charm), but something tells me most of the people angry at Playtonic weren't big into Rare games to begin with.
 

Slayven

Member
There are people who genuinely think I was the cause of this XD

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I did tweet out to the devs just asking them for a comment, they didn't respond or like or whatever, but maybe they checked it without acknowledging?
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If I and a few other GAFers were the cause of this decision, I'm ok with it.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the club
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Gestault

Member
Genuine question, every time I look at this thread another 10 or so pages are added. How? I don't even get what's under debate now.

A lot of it is responses to various high-profile defenses of Jon, and commentary on the reactions to Playtonic's decision. I've taken part because I think deconstructing this stuff is both interesting and useful culturally, but you haven't missed much.
 

Camjo-Z

Member
Will they refund them? Not much integrity in taking white supremacists' money.

They're not legally owed a refund since they're getting the product and rewards advertised on the Kickstarter, and it actually costs Playtonic money to give full refunds at this point, so I doubt it.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The assimilation debate is a whole load of Euro-centric horseshit regardless. You don't get to suppress and annihilate swaths of indigenous cultures then have the ground to say that assimilation of minority immigrants into your culture is fundamental for the health of the region.

Completely agree!
 
There are people who genuinely think I was the cause of this XD

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I did tweet out to the devs just asking them for a comment, they didn't respond or like or whatever, but maybe they checked it without acknowledging?
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If I and a few other GAFers were the cause of this decision, I'm ok with it.

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Okay reading through some of the Twitter posts, when did JonTron become a saint and a martyr in the eyes of the public??? Remove him and suddenly Playtonic is the big bad company that doesn't respect their actor's views and they treat their customers horribly.

Like what??? Are they serious?

And is GAF the original cause in all of this? Yes we had threads but I knew people asking this question way before GAF did. It's absolutely insane. Well I'm still buying it. I don't care what Twitter or anyone else thinks. Playtonic DOES deserve our money for spending so much of their time on this game. I could care less if JonTron, even though I was a huge fan of him before, is in the game or not.
That was a terrible response TBH.

If he was a PR manager at my company I wouldn't condone that at all.
I'm with him actually. Even though I have a cyborg ninja and a healer as my avatar I'm with him.
 

joe2187

Banned
They're bringing up Phrenology and Eugenics in their defense for Jontron "Not a racist if it's true" now.

I mean...if we still have people believing the earth is flat in this day and age...I guess I can believe people still think this shit is in any way credible.
 
Says the guy with blue hair.

That was a terrible response TBH.

If he was a PR manager at my company I wouldn't condone that at all.

I'm aware it's not a particularly smart response. But In regards to people spamming them with black crime statistics, calling Playtonic white supremacists and sending photoshops of Yooka's antagonist to the ADL. I'd say it was a premium hilarity response.

Will they refund them? Not much integrity in taking white supremacists' money.

The kickstarter money was spent developing the game. They are withdrawing from the budget of a complete game. I don't think Playtonic is obligated to conjure this cash up.


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They're bringing up Phrenology and Eugenics in their defense for Jontron "Not a racist if it's true" now.

Are you also reading the steam forum.
 

Aquillion

Member
The assimilation debate is a whole load of Euro-centric horseshit regardless. You don't get to suppress and annihilate swaths of indigenous cultures then have the ground to say that assimilation of minority immigrants into your culture is fundamental for the health of the region.
It also assumes that culture is monolithic and static, neither of which are remotely true.

In some ways, young urban Americans have more in common with many young urban Iranians than they do with, say, old people from solid-white rural states in the US. (And in some respects, those old people have more in common with Iranian conservatives than they do with more diverse US urbanites, though they'd never admit it.)

And in all those cases, the culture has changed dramatically over the past few decades, though again, the old conservatives would never admit it.
 

joe2187

Banned
I'm aware it's not a particularly smart response. But In regards to people spamming them with black crime statistics, calling Playtonic white supremacists and sending photoshops of Yooka's antagonist to the ADL. I'd say it was a premium hilarity response.



The kickstarter money was spent developing the game. They are withdrawing from the budget of a complete game. I don't think Playtonic is obligated to conjure this cash up.


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Are you also reading the steam forum.

It's also a generalization. Like saying people with red shirts are also trump supporters.

And yes I'm in the steam forums....because I have an account there, I'm not going to make an account just to argue somebody on the internet. And I'm the one that pointed that part out...when the started defending the "Crime" gene and "size of a black persons skull" as their way to support Jontron I didnt know how to respond.

I think I should just leave it alone.
 

Gattsu25

Banned
Dear lord in heaven....

So I finally listened to the JonTron interview by Destiny and my god was it just... awful.

Jon clearly had no idea what he was saying the whole way through and came off extremely ignorant and even racist.

That was a tough listen as a fan of his work, but jeez man... I think playtonic made the right move here.

I know im late to the party here, but just wanted to voice my disappointment and disbelief in Jon.
Yeah, it's a shitty situation and I bet playtonic found themselves between a rock and a hard place.
 

MUnited83

For you.
It's also a generalization. Like saying people with red shirts are also trump supporters.

And yes I'm in the steam forums....because I have an account there, I'm not going to make an account just to argue somebody on the internet. And I'm the one that pointed that part out...when the started defending the "Crime" gene and "size of a black persons skull" as their way to support Jontron I didnt know how to respond.

I think I should just leave it alone.

It's less generalising and more pointing out a particular trend.
 

rnaud

Member
It's really surprising that this is an 80 pages thread. It seems like a no brainer: youtuber makes comments that no brand want to be associated with, gets dropped from small role as a voice actor, everyone moves on.

Am I missing something or is this just a few people who don't understand business and ethics on twitter.
 

marrec

Banned
It's really surprising that this is an 80 pages thread. It seems like a no brainer: youtuber makes comments that no brand want to be associated with, gets dropped from small role as a voice actor, everyone moves on.

Am I missing something or is this just a few people who don't understand business and ethics on twitter.

Ex-Gamergaters wanted a new cause celebre to hitch their shitty wagon onto so they chose this. Nobody actually cares about Jon's dumb voice not being included, they just want a reason to complain about SJWs ruining their video games.

Coupled with the recent PDP garbage and the consistently garbage Colin Moriarty, it's like a "ethics in games" renaissance up in here.
 
Rare is also a company that deliberately mocks and antagonizes its fans within their own games (something that's part of their charm), but something tells me most of the people angry at Playtonic weren't big into Rare games to begin with.

I mean, Jon freaking loved Rare's games. I'm a little puzzled by the idea that because these guys are scumbags they can't have been fans of Rare and their previous works. Bigots can totally have decent taste in games, which is why the community unfortunately seems more and more infested with them.
 

Tregard

Soothsayer
It's really surprising that this is an 80 pages thread. It seems like a no brainer: youtuber makes comments that no brand want to be associated with, gets dropped from small role as a voice actor, everyone moves on.

Am I missing something or is this just a few people who don't understand business and ethics on twitter.

"SJWs ruining video games", essentially
 

Manzoon

Banned
It's really surprising that this is an 80 pages thread. It seems like a no brainer: youtuber makes comments that no brand want to be associated with, gets dropped from small role as a voice actor, everyone moves on.

Am I missing something or is this just a few people who don't understand business and ethics on twitter.

There's just a fresh series of responses every time some new horror is screamed from the abyss. Also like a dozen situations where someone said, "well I don't know what JonTron said..." followed by a terrible defense, and then back pedaling and condemnation when they actually go and see the filth that spewed from his mouth.
 
It's really surprising that this is an 80 pages thread. It seems like a no brainer: youtuber makes comments that no brand want to be associated with, gets dropped from small role as a voice actor, everyone moves on.

Am I missing something or is this just a few people who don't understand business and ethics on twitter.
Clearly you're a cuck liberal 1984 censorship what is this North Korea can't handle different opinions man. How can you not see that us dirty non whites want to take over America.

First item on the agenda. Delete every copy of American pie and make you listen to Shakira.
 

SMD

Member
A lot of it is responses to various high-profile defenses of Jon, and commentary on the reactions to Playtonic's decision. I've taken part because I think deconstructing this stuff is both interesting and useful culturally, but you haven't missed much.

I got to page 60 and ran out of steam so fair play.
 

marrec

Banned
Clearly you're a cuck liberal 1984 censorship what is this North Korea can't handle different opinions man. How can you not see that us dirty non whites want to take over America.

First item on the agenda. Delete every copy of American pie and make you listen to Shakira.

Her hips don't lie.

UNLIKE NEOGAF AND CUCKTAKU
 

Tregard

Soothsayer
Im curious, has he been sacked from a hat in time yet?

Have the devs commented?

I'm expecting, if they weren't leaning either particular way as of yet, Gears For Breakfast would likely rather avoid the flak Playtonic are dealing with and may just try and quietly keep him
 
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