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UK set to trigger Brexit on March 29

When should the UK celebrate Independence Day?


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Acorn

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Already mourned. I'm in the numb acceptance stage with a 0.1% amount of hope we become independent.

Not holding my breath, c'est la vie.
 

TimmmV

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No? I've had five different jobs in the last 12 years and they all required that.

Nah. My first job out of Uni made me do it, and I was naive enough to go along with it. Neither of the 2 jobs I've done since have asked for it either (this is as a computer programmer).

The latter 2 came with the expectation you do overtime if necessary which is obviously fairly normal, but the first one basically considered it permission for everyone to do a 48 hour week as standard lol. It was bullshit
 

klonere

Banned
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https://twitter.com/immolations/status/847118060406423552
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Horrible day. Only sadness.
I'm already leaving. Taking my filthy european income​ tax elsewhere!
 
BENDY BANANAS

THEY BROUGHT UP BENDY BANANAS

goddamn why do i keep getting triggered over this bullshit

edit: oh fuck off Farage

As an American, had to google:

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what the FUCK is this abomination??!!!

If I saw that shit at the supermarket, not only would I vote 'leave', I'd jump in the channel and start pushing the island west.
 

ittoryu

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Well, good luck without having a single penny from the EU, that shouldn't be a problem for this person on twitter no? Money from the EU were never meant to eliminate poverty and believing that is, as always in this shitshow, another lie to blame the EU for.
Where is the blame on the political party that was governing the country?
Nah, he/she wrote a load of bs, sorry.
 
My £9.99 flights to Berlin are rather valuable to me thanks! Fuck knows how that would work a few years from now. Are we going to need VISAs or something? Its definitely not going to be as problem free and easy as it is now. Fuck this place.

We don't really know yet (basically everything about brexit still after 9 months), but it's highly unlikely we'll have to get a visa to go to the EU, most other major economies have visa waiver deals with the EU so it's just as simple as turning up and being given entry.

Immigrating to the EU is likely to become harder however, will depend on negotiations as the rights are likely to be reciprocal between the EU and UK.
 

Hazzuh

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Good article from Politico about what the EU27 might hope to get out of the Brexit negotiations.

POLITICO has spoken to officials from each country, familiar with their government’s preparations for Brexit. There is a remarkable consensus about the importance of guaranteeing citizens’ rights and of the U.K. meeting its existing obligations to the EU budget framework. However, there is also a wide range of niche interests and national red lines that could turn these fiendishly complex talks on their head.
 

boxoctosis

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There's good reasons why people might reject the EU (and a lot of daft reasons, and a lot of daft reasons why people might have voted Remain).

I prefer to be optimistic, rather than subscribing to the 'we're fucked' narrative. Who really knows though?

I am hoping it'll trigger Scottish independence and the collapse of the Union as well.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
I was interviewed by ITV News today on a matter of pressing concern.

Local parking regulations.

Priorities, eh?
 
As an American, had to google:

straight-banana-230x156.jpg


what the FUCK is this abomination??!!!

If I saw that shit at the supermarket, not only would I vote 'leave', I'd jump in the channel and start pushing the island west.

Our bananas are bendy. Those straight ones would probably be restricted because they have "abnormal curvature" (i.e. none).

In any case, it's a rule that the shops and banana industry (growers and distributors) supported, since everyone people want commodity goods to be standardised. Buying a ton of class A bananas should be a consistent product..
 

Acorn

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There's good reasons why people might reject the EU (and a lot of daft reasons, and a lot of daft reasons why people might have voted Remain).

I prefer to be optimistic, rather than subscribing to the 'we're fucked' narrative. Who really knows though?

I am hoping it'll trigger Scottish independence and the collapse of the Union as well.
Assuming everything goes great we still have to deal with the executive having huge power over which laws exist and don't at will, thanks to the great repeal shit.

Govt loses x case, x law can be scrapped without parliamentary input iirc.

If I'm wrong about this, I'd appreciate any feedback.
 

Ac30

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🤔

To be fair, leaving the EU was probably not the best idea, economy-wise, so why shouldn't the scots try? :p

I just hope the Union somehow survives because a breakup of the UK will hurt England and Scotland more than them leaving the EU... But after this Brexit bullshit the scots have as good a reason as any to pull the trigger.
 

Pandy

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No? I've had five different jobs in the last 12 years and they all required that.

I've had 5 in about 12 years too, and only one that required it.

I understand a lot of shitty employers demand it as standard, but the only place that asked me to was a factory that was operating 24 hours a day and 7 days a week for a short season, so it was somewhat understandable operationally and you knew it was only going to last a couple of months at a time.
 

boxoctosis

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Assuming everything goes great we still have to deal with the executive having huge power over which laws exist and don't at will, thanks to the great repeal shit.

Govt loses x case, x law can be scrapped without parliamentary input iirc.

If I'm wrong about this, I'd appreciate any feedback.

No i don't think you're wrong, but it wasn't a consideration for me when voting. I mean, it's a massively complex area, and I've faith if the public so wish, they can vote in a left wing government in future. Nothing is fixed, domestically.

Would be good if a decent left wing alternative appeared but that's for another thread.
 

Acorn

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No i don't think you're wrong, but it wasn't a consideration for me when voting. I mean, it's a massively complex area, and I've faith if the public so wish, they can vote in a left wing government in future. Nothing is fixed, domestically.

Would be good if a decent left wing alternative appeared but that's for another thread.
I'm left wing but I wouldn't be happy about any govt having this power. I understand that trying to put that square peg in a round hole is difficult but surely we could've found another way.
 
To be fair lots of affluent southern counties voted majority leave, many who have worked in the city. Most of the southerners took us out, not dirty northerners.

Places like Luton and Dagenham voted leave but are white minority areas. Even places that voted remain around London like East Hampshire, Bromley and Horsham are like 50.5% remain 49.5% leave.

What some might not understand is there's been want for a referendum for decades when immigration was very low. New problems today are housing and schools. We have the smallest homes in Europe and these are being sadly split into two. Quality of life is important and ~300k net people arriving each year is difficult.

Also UK has been a problem for mainland Europe for a long time upsetting everyone. We've only ever been half in. In the next 5-10 years UK would've had to adopt the euro and revisited more reforms. While I'm for remaining, it might be best if we get a headstart and let the EU project continue.

When you have pro EU Evan Davis on the BBC interviewing Mr Verhofstadt and saying we'd never sign up to future reforms he brought along then there was probably going to be an impasse soon anyway.
 

Uuurgh...

Those problems are the UK government's fault. You don't get to blame the EU for not miraculously solving the problems of the British poor. The EU is not the welfare state and is not the health service.

That the EU funded "business infrastructure" in poor areas shows that they were at least doing something. And I'm not sure how poor areas will get better if they don't get infrastructure funding.

But no, clearly the EU are the bad guys and we should give more power to the UK government that has systematically diverted funding from poor areas and welfare to London and tax-cuts for the rich.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
So, we're at the top of the rollercoaster looking down.

I really really don't like roller coasters, especially experimental ones. This isn't what I voted for, what I campaigned for or what I believe in - but here we are.

I hope that we get the best possible result out of this. And I think what I mean by that is that we get the best possible result for the EU. The UK's interests are relatively trivial in comparison.

It's too late now for recriminations, except perhaps at the ballot box next time round. And there's no credible leader other than May to take it forward (Farron? Nuttall? ... Corbyn?).

All I can do now is cross fingers and pay attention.

... and maybe needle Quiche occasionally ...

(I have in mind a later post about what the UK rationale for leaving would sensibly look like if there were one, and what its consequences would be. But that is still rattling around in my skull at the moment.)
 

boxoctosis

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So, we're at the top of the rollercoaster looking down.

I really really don't like roller coasters, especially experimental ones. This isn't what I voted for, what I campaigned for or what I believe in - but here we are.

I hope that we get the best possible result out of this. And I think what I mean by that is that we get the best possible result for the EU. The UK's interests are relatively trivial in comparison.

It's too late now for recriminations, except perhaps at the ballot box next time round. And there's no credible leader other than May to take it forward (Farron? Nuttall? ... Corbyn?).

All I can do now is cross fingers and pay attention.

... and maybe needle Quiche occasionally ...

(I have in mind a later post about what the UK rationale for leaving would sensibly look like if there were one, and what its consequences would be. But that is still rattling around in my skull at the moment.)

This is a good, sober, measured discourse over reasons why people might vote Leave.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1857886550/
 
Control of what? When you leave EU you LOSE control. So it was a joke I suppose, right? Or maybe I'm just completely out of the loop. Don't hate me, pls.

Just some old school racism. And racism is never rational, how else are you gonna turn the immigration of highly skilled workers, which aren't even 1/3 of the total numbers of Immigrants, as net loss for your country?
 

Acorn

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So, we're at the top of the rollercoaster looking down.

I really really don't like roller coasters, especially experimental ones. This isn't what I voted for, what I campaigned for or what I believe in - but here we are.

I hope that we get the best possible result out of this. And I think what I mean by that is that we get the best possible result for the EU. The UK's interests are relatively trivial in comparison.

It's too late now for recriminations, except perhaps at the ballot box next time round. And there's no credible leader other than May to take it forward (Farron? Nuttall? ... Corbyn?).

All I can do now is cross fingers and pay attention.

... and maybe needle Quiche occasionally ...

(I have in mind a later post about what the UK rationale for leaving would sensibly look like if there were one, and what its consequences would be. But that is still rattling around in my skull at the moment.)
Was waiting for phisheep to post. Enjoy reading your posts even if I disagreed vehemently about Scottish independence 😉
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Was waiting for phisheep to post. Enjoy reading your posts even if I disagreed vehemently about Scottish independence 😉

Can't even bloody well remember what I wrote about Scottish independence!

It might even be different now, as the circumstances have most definitely changed.
 

Rolodzeo

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Control of what? When you leave EU you LOSE control. So it was a joke I suppose, right? Or maybe I'm just completely out of the loop. Don't hate me, pls.

It was a joke hehehe. I really think Brexit is a bad idea and I also don't see any positives about it, at least for the time being.
 
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