How do we know this? All Playground have said is it's a open world game that's not a racing game.
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How do we know this? All Playground have said is it's a open world game that's not a racing game.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Not saying you're wrong, but I find it staggering that Microsoft would pass on just about ANYTHING PlayGround would do.
MeisterLeder
Banned
Who is sneakers and why do people believe him lol?
Papacheeks
Banned
After all the cleanup going on project wise in the past year or so it doesn't surprise you? looking at the slate of multiplayer/online focused games in their studios isn't showing a pattern to you?
HeisenbergWW62
Banned
He was right about some Marvel vs Capcom Infinite stuff I believe. Rest of his stuff remains to be seen
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Some insider or something, idk...would not be surprised anyway if it's true.
Don't matter though...I just want more Scorpio info that this point.
Agnostic Priest
Member
I remember reading up on this and I don't recall MS passing on the project, just that they were working on a new IP.
Anyone have links?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
If its not focus thats ok, I just want to see it. And not that CG stuff like Forza 5 was at the Xbox One reveal. That was a real trick
SneakersSO
Member
Bullseye.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Things need to change at MS then. Nothing wrong with having a few SP focused games as well. Hell, last year they had QB. Solely singleplayer.
I really don't recall Playground mentioning they had pitched this to MS, neither that it wordt be a multiplatform game. If true though I can only say.... Wtf MS. Spencer agreeing that they need more first party and then they would just pass on this?
Papacheeks
Banned
It's like people are forgetting the Phil harrison days and how fable legends was a by product of games as a service same with the Microtransactoins in gears, halo.
It's like people don't see pattern with the games being shown?
I just don't get man. SHinobi talked about this during the whole scalebound debacle and it was eye opening.
LukasTaves
Member
The clean up where all they killed were multi-player focused games?
Papacheeks
Banned
Well I can tell you Lion head first pitched an amazing sounding fable 4, and MS said no and they had them start making fable legends. Which was a disaster.
Yea your right, Scalebound was totally multiplayer focused that's why more single player footage was shown from that game. Your right Phantomdust's remaster/reboot was totally going to be 100% multiplayer, Your right again Blacktusk's game shanghai that showed off a story type trailer totally was multiplayer focused, oh wait we didn't even get to see that game get made.
Munki
Member
Bullseye
that's the trick, no one knows because it's actually intel
MosquitoSmasher
Member
What the goddamned hell man. So it wasn't Lionhead who wanted to make Legends? Let me guess, Fable 4 was gonna be solely SP and what else?
MS needs to take a good look at Sony at how they have plenty of SP games and they sell great. It really shouldn't all be MP focused games. MS would be insane as fuck to pass on a new open world IP by Playground as an exclusive.
Jimmyfenix
Member
i just find it crazy that everything else gets leaked and we still don't know what CPU is in this thing
Thanks, was about to quote that myself.
OT - So I'm assuming Thursday was also 'confirmed' by Jez right? Or is it pot luck when this could happen?
Papacheeks
Banned
Yea, I'll grab the info from another thread give me a little bit. But yea that's why me, sneakers and others are not to thrilled with xbox so far and don't think a magical 4k box will fix what's going on within the division(mainly people above spencer).
SEGAvangelist
Member
Shows how good they are keeping secrets.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder mate.
Comfirmed: The Xbox Scorpio is powered by an Nvidia Tegra X2
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
But Playground is a third party that they have a fantastic relationship with with a proven track record. Seems like a no brainer.
I'm not buying that 100%.
Its more than just selling great. A game can sell great but have no longevity to it. Where as another game can also sell great and provide you with microtransactions, push live engagement etc.
MS is finding monetary success with what they are doing. It's not just about units
It's actually an Apple A10 processor
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Eh, nothing is certain in this business...wouldn't be the first time MS passed up something nor the last. *Shrug.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
And this has what to do with this hardware rumor again? All you've been doing is ragging on their software in here. There's plenty of other threads for that lately
LukasTaves
Member
OK, let's do this:
- Scalebound was shown to the public 3 times. The first a Cg trailer announcing the game, and in an interview they said they had a multiplayer surprise. The second time they showed a glimpse of gameplay and announced coop. The third time they showed coop gameplay. It may not what you wanted in the game but they made a big deal about multiplayer since the announcement.
- The PD reboot was a mp only game. Even if you believe the reports the reason why it was killed was precisely because MS wanted to add single player, so it doesn't fit your narrative.
- You, or anyone here know jackshit about the blacktusk project.
And they also killed Fable Legends. A mp only game. Press plan's game which was also a mp only game.
So no, the facts doesn't support you. You don't kill your first party to focus on multiplayer only games by killing multiplayer only games. I don't even know how that narrative came to be when all they canceled were mp games XD
Electret
Member
Wow. Big if true.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Yeah it's probably thanks to folks that aren't Phil, Because I would think he'd like to see a good steady lineup of both SP and MP games on Xbox. I remember how he was regretting the decision that he has said no to Rime, that game then temporarily became a PS4 exclusive until it became multiplatform. But who knows, maybe it was him that said no to Fable 4,who closed Press Play etc. But if people above him, time for some clean up, jeez.
But if all this turns out to be true, then I guess games like QB and Recore were the last true SP only games then. I sure as hell hope not. But as for playground, maybe they plan on implementing MP in that new IP as well. That would make it extra interesting for MS you'd think. But I'm just speculating here of course.
Yeah, you got a point there. I bet they hope that games like Crackdown and Sea of Thieves will do that. On top of that rely on Halo and Gears, but it just isn't enough. They need change. We can still look forward to the new Moon Studios game, it's not their own studio but that doesn't matter.
But I do wonder where those Playground claims are coming from.
Sorry you don't come across with benign intentions. Why would MS pass on Fable 4 when Fable 3 sold well? Phil said on many occasions he prioritises first party and that SP games need to improve, why would his seniors weigh in on game design ideas? They just want success and wouldn't dive in to make gaming related decisions, that's why they have Phil in charge, and of he fails he goes.
Yeah that'd be cool and nope none at all.
And I totally see what you mean. There are indeed a lot more options for multiplayer gamers on both platforms now than in the past, which kind of does put MS in an odd place even if Halo 5 and Gears offer arguably the best multiplayer gameplay in their series and they are pushing more online games.
They do need something that blows people away in that aspect. I personally think Sea of Thieves and Crackdown could do it. I think SOT could achieve a massive userbase. People love games like Ark and 7 Days to Die. Battlegrounds recently made 11 million in 3 days, and Ark sold damn well on Xb1. And even though mainly single player, I believe Crackdown will be definitley be something special on the multiplayer front.
And idk. I play a lot of multiplayer and single player games. As long as they're quality and fun I'm good. They announce 10 new multiplayer ips that look good and I'll be all over em and vice versa lol.
Jimmyfenix
Member
God this is reminding me of NX threads in October.
give us the details now pls
give us the details now pls
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
No different to the constantly perpetuated myth that Microsoft doesn't have exclusives. They have plenty of them.
Microsoft just doesn't know how to turn a new IP into a franchise. That's their ACTUAL problem. If a new game doesn't do Halo numbers (relatively speaking) on it's first try, then they don't greenlight a sequel.
It's a shitty way of doing things.
SneakersSO
Member
Cause things change. Put it this way - according to Jez the Scorpio is currently running at about 80% of it's intended efficiency. If someone were to go and leak that a few weeks ago, sure they would be right, but come June they would be wrong.
I've said things before about the CPU based on a briefing I had been privy to back in January. But I have tempered everything I said with a "this could change last minute", or "it could be a last minute reveal a la 8gb GDDR5 in PS4". There are a few things I said that I never added that preempt to that are now foregone conclusions.
Papacheeks
Banned
Black tusk trailer was a story trailer, regardless of scalebound different showing the most gameplay they showed was of the single player campaign and hub for co-op.
If yo have info on the reboot/sequel to phantom dust please link it as they showed a story based trailer for that.
Just because it has multiplayer doesn't mean when they cancel a project that theya re just cancelling a multipler/co-op.
They had both. SO you could say they cancelled both multiplayer games and single player if you want to nit pick.
aren't you glad MS announced this a year and a half before release?
Agnostic Priest
Member
Unless he has insider information, he is wrong. They haven't announced any platforms for this game, according to a quick search on the topic.
VisualFidelity
Member
Im still waiting for the day I can give a letter to a game character named milo and scan my skateboard to use it in game....
Sadly I believe there is a story or article somewhere stating that they didn't like the pitch for Fable 4. It did sound weird, I think it had something to do with vampires or werewolves and it was victorian era, or something. I could be way off and confusing it with something else, but I remember reading something about MS didn't like the pitch for Fable 4. Fable Legends honestly wasn't that bad. They just took so long to barely get any content available. The base combat and characters were really cool. It just got pretty repetitive with the lack of content available in the beta. It definitely could have shaped up to be something pretty good though, I thought.
Edit: Nope, I was completely off. Here's a link to the Fable 4 pitch.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/12/ex-lionhead-dev-reveals-the-pitch-for-fable-4
He does.
SneakersSO
Member
It is? Where did you hear this from? Last I heard it was exclusive. That's weird that an MS studio and MS published game would be multiplatform.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
It's next week. Where's my scorpion news?
LukasTaves
Member
Now that I agree with. That's the issue with Ms 1st party currently: How quickly they abandon things. It's less of a problem as they have a very good finger for picking fantastic stuff, but could be even better if everything they touched were ongoing franchises.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
He said multiplayer. Not Multiplatform.