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[MassiveNights]

Nuance: I did not say they are being paid. But seriously, how do you know they are not paid ?

Because they are a credible journalistic outlet, part of Eurogamer, who would undoubtedly give people a heads up on whether something was sponsored content.

 

[insonator]

I've never seen someone make a contradiction in a single sentence before.

Think outside the box

 

[wesleyshark]

I've never seen someone make a contradiction in a single sentence before.

I'm not saying they are, but I'm not saying they aren't either.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Did you study Law at Trump University...?

 

[i-Lo]

I'm concerned, very concerned. As a viewer of digital foundry, I've enjoyed knowing for the most part that their tech reviews are simply factual. They present the facts, specs and benchmarks from a mostly unbiased view point so yea, it's concerning.

There has always been more.

 

[Piper Az]

Phil has always indicated that this is a "premium" console. I don't expect DF to reveal the price, but I don't think this is will be $399. I realistically believe it will be $499 (anything higher will not be competitive).

 

[JaggedSac]

Wary of what? lol

They are going to cover the hardware. Not software. The hardware is the hardware.

Must be "concern" that DF will say something along the lines of this, "there is a 2.1ghz Jaguar CPU in it, but don't worry it is more than enough for what this box was designed for."

 

[DJwest]

WTF is going on in this thread? Dammit GAF, get your shit together.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

 

[oti]

Wary of what? lol

They are going to cover the hardware. Not software. The hardware is the hardware.

MS are either very confident in Scorpio or they paid or restrict DF in some form for this coverage, like no direct comparison with PS4 Pro or something. But I just can't imagine DF putting their reputation on the line for this. I'm sure MS is just really confident. Otherwise they wouldn't have chosen THE hardware outlet to reveal the hardware.

 

[MosquitoSmasher]

Man would I love it if Crackdown turns out to be the showcase game and not only Forza 7. The wait has been so long for that game. Please be awesome. Wonder if that tweet means we see something from it Thursday.

 

[iMax]

Think outside the box

what box

 

[SOR5]

The concern against DF is mental and I mean seriously paranoid to the point of comedy.

 

[JaggedSac]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it seems like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

Gaf is creative if nothing else.

 

[wesleyshark]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it seems like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

What in the world is this?

Lol.

What.

 

[icespide]

what is there even to be biased about with this reveal? they are literally just talking about specs and maybe showing how certain games perform. What would be the point about lying about any of that when people will quickly call them out ?

it is not like they are doing an editorial review of this thing

 

[timmyp53]

The fact that DF is doing this is great for hardcore audience but I personally hope there won't be an exec hovering during the reveal.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Do you think we'll get the price too? I think we won't because it will be over 400, as it will be a beast

Nope.

Tech specs Thursday.

Name and box reveal pre-E3

Price and date E3

 

[Dynasty]

Did you study Law at Trump University...?

 

[tuna_love]

embrace, extend, extinguish. think outside the xbox. so obvious

 

[Granadier]

Absolutely, because I enjoy nothing more than seeing some of my favorite gaming sites in bed with gaming companies.

Why am I not reading the official PlayStation magazine again? I think they offer a very interesting view on any gaming aspects!

 

[Flibbertygiblet]

How on Earth is GAF rationalizing being mad about the tech specs being revealed and uncovered by the forefront expert in tech specs? I am beyond confused right now.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

What in god's name is this?

 

[Compsiox]

Microsoft and Digital Foundry would both be hurt if Digital Foundry lied.

It's not happening. To even suggest it is stupid. The truth would come out at launch.

 

[quest]

MS are either very confident in Scorpio or they paid or restrict DF in some form for this coverage, like no direct comparison with PS4 Pro or something. But I just can't imagine DF putting their reputation on the line for this. I'm sure MS is just really confident. Otherwise they wouldn't have chosen THE hardware outlet to reveal the hardware.

Exactly people who think df would throw away every thing to lie for MS are trolling or warriors plain and simple. Df built up a ton of creditablity over last 7 years. To throw that away over a little pay off makes 0 sense.

 

[ATOMICJORGE]

How on Earth is GAF rationalizing being mad about the tech specs being revealed and uncovered by the forefront expert in tech specs? I am beyond confused right now.

I know wtf

 

[funkystudent]

I was wondering with DF didnt have any Scorpio rumor / speculation from overheard developer talk videos after GDC


Good idea on MS parts to bring into the PR strategy.

 

[rokkerkory]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

Should MS apologize asap or immediately lose the fans forever or something along those lines too?

 

[tuna_love]

should have been nxgamer smh

 

[wesleyshark]

How on Earth is GAF rationalizing being mad about the tech specs being revealed and uncovered by the forefront expert in tech specs? I am beyond confused right now.

I've not seen such a complete absence of logic in a while. I want to say they're just trolling, but I know they're not. They're serious about DF being sellouts and losing their credibility.

 

[Granadier]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

Now I know what it's like to read cancer.

 

[Colbert]

Did you study Law at Trump University...?

LMAO. Made my Day.

 

[12Dannu123]

embrace, extend, extinguish. think outside the xbox. so obvious

I feel they may Do that to Valve.

TBH valve is a slow competitor and pretty much their investment in lighthouse has been a sham and is about to be replaced by Inside Out tracking

 

[Bobnob]

What happens if DF does not like it ? All tech sites are going to report it. MS would sue their asses - so DF has to thread carefully. Basically, DF *can't* say anything bad about it

Lol lol.......










Lol

 

[ironcreed]

 

[oti]

should have been nxgamer smh

I only trust Biogamer Girl I'm not gonna lie.

 

[insonator]

what box

The root of the problem is not that they are paid or not, it's that we can't know absolutely for sure that DF is being bought. We can only take for granted their prior art; this is also a first for DF.

We'll see on Thursday, but it makes a bad impression on me

 

[MaulerX]

Seems like certain people are more "concerned" with DF actually saying positive things about Scorpio. Lol. Seems like MS's strategy with giving them the exclusive was the right choice indeed.

 

[Wedzi]

Yeah it's a pretty huge part of the SoC. But with the rumor of an LED outside of the devkits I suspect they managed to implement a water cooling solution.

Leaked Scorpio pic

 

[SlipperyMoose]

Welcome to an Xbox thread

 

[SOR5]

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.

Sony fans should be happy that they can engage in psychological warfare over game boxes?

Lol what?

 

[Detective]

I can't even

Frankie, How many trees there will be in Halo 6 with Scorpio ;D

 

[wesleyshark]

The root of the problem is not that they are paid or not, it's that we can't know absolutely for sure that DF is being bought.

I think that's enough Internet for you, today.

 

[icespide]

if Microsoft really wanted to ensure we got unbiased coverage they should have given the exclusive to CrapGamer

 

[dmix90]

What is going on in this thread? It's a reveal of a spec sheet for christ sake.

 

[VoltrefferNL]

Let's see if Microsoft can secure my purchase and the end of the year .

 

[insonator]

Lol lol.......










Lol

Please tell me how this is false.

 

[Thorrgal]

Microsoft and Digital Foundry would both be hurt if Digital Foundry lied.

It's not happening. To even suggest it is stupid. The truth would come out at launch.

But what would they lie about? Makes no sense..its just specs. There won't be even the price, which could be the only "negative" thing about it if it's idd a beast

 

[timmyp53]

what is there even to be biased about with this reveal? they are literally just talking about specs and maybe showing how certain games perform. What would be the point about lying about any of that when people will quickly call them out ?

it is not like they are doing an editorial review of this thing

Yeah I don't think people are actually thinking that they are going to lie. That's some tin foil shit. It's just human nature to be friendly. If a MS exec is hovering behind you it's not out of the realm of possibility that you would hold back from talking about limitations or deficiencies in the hardware/etc.

In a perfect world sony and ms drop off their new console kits in a mailbox with no strings attached but you have to be silly to not see thats not how this works. In the end this is PR.

 

[Cpt_Cabal]

I'm really not concerned about future Sony or Nintendo coverage but seeing how DF is ok with being an advertising platform for a console manufacturer or just hardware in general definitely leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

DF presents themselves as a pure fact driven tech outlet. That doesn't interfere with showing or analyzing any graphics card or console sent by the manufacturer - but the fact that they're acting as a promotion platform makes it look like this:

Gaming journalism and the often uncomfortably relationship to video game companies basically - that's a very delicate topic and why we see a bunch of genuinely concerned folks (calm down fanboys DF went from "360 bias" to "PS4 bias" - you go figure).

Spoonful of banhammer will cure what ails ya...