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Xbox Scorpio reveal on Thursday at 2pm UK / 6am Pacific by Eurogamer/DF
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i have it on good authority
wesleyshark
Banned
This is absolute insanity.I'm really not concerned about future Sony or Nintendo coverage but seeing how DF is ok with being an advertising platform for a console manufacturer or just hardware in general definitely leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
DF presents themselves as a pure fact driven tech outlet. That doesn't interfere with showing or analyzing any graphics card or console sent by the manufacturer - but the fact that they're acting as a promotion platform makes it look like this:
Gaming journalism and the often uncomfortably relationship to video game companies basically - that's a very delicate topic and why we see a bunch of genuinely concerned folks (calm down fanboys DF went from "360 bias" to "PS4 bias" - you go figure).
wesleyshark
Banned
No it's DF sold out to Msoft week, apparently
"Instead of sequels to games that will most likely become multiplatform in the future (including Quantum Break, to which they own the IP)...I think MS should take a sample of what made the original XBOX library varied with different genres and exclusives.....
Watch OG XBOX...
They had
Ninja Gaiden (which went multiplat with Sigma and Sigma 2, and then NG3)
ODDWorld (which went multiplat)
DOA3 (which went multiplat with DOA5, and then DOAX3 skipped Xbox entirely)
Splinter Cell (which was always multiplat)
They even had descent ports of Halflife (multiplat), Doom (multiplat) and Unreal championship (where Unreal Tournament was always multiplat)....."
Why would any of that be different if DF got first exclusives rights to talk about or not? Specs are static. They are what they are. Letting IGN talk about it first doesn't change what the specs are.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
I'm very excited about the reveal this Thursday I'm saving money to buy the Scorpio and a 4K TV at the end of the year I live on Mexico so it's going to cost a lot but at least I get paid in US dollars lol, when the Xbox One S came out I was not excited and decided to wait for Scorpio with my Day One console, it's going to be great I can feel it
Proelite
Member
They did tech dives for Ryzen Polaris 1080 Intel CPUs, PS4 pro. Sold out their soul to everyone by covering relevant gaming related tech.
I mean, the specs are going to be out there to analyze anyway. So there would be nothing to gain from Microsoft paying them for some puff piece promotion that makes the system look like something that it's not. Such a notion is absurd, and if anything, it is being done this way to make it more up front and straight forward vs being some typical PR reveal by the suits.
MassiveNights
Banned
So you've gone from trusting their content to assuming they are being paid to offer positive coverage?
OK.
That's weird though. Like, if you think they are that unscrupulous then I doubt you cared much for their videos anyway and if you didn't care much for their videos then being concerned about this makes zero sense.
TheSpecialOne
Banned
I'm concerned, very concerned. As a viewer of digital foundry, I've enjoyed knowing for the most part that their tech reviews are simply factual. They present the facts, specs and benchmarks from a mostly unbiased view point so yea, it's concerning.
THere is, but we should also be aware that exclusivity will come with its own caveats.
This happens all the time in media, where the commodity being traded is access - whether that's access to a celebrity for an interview (but you can't ask certain questions), or maybe a look at a game at a special event (but you can't film your own footage).
I think there can be a tendency to hyperbole in gaming communities sometimes, but at its core the idea that one should be circumspect about these kinds of announcements and events, is reasonable.
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But, perhaps this is near-ish to a best-case scenario in these situations. Maybe DF will give a checklist and inspection of what the machine can do, with some speculation, but at least sticking to objective facts is the best way to make themselves accountable. That's good for them and MS.
I'm really not concerned about future Sony or Nintendo coverage but seeing how DF is ok with being an advertising platform for a console manufacturer or just hardware in general definitely leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
DF presents themselves as a pure fact driven tech outlet. That doesn't interfere with showing or analyzing any graphics card or console sent by the manufacturer - but the fact that they're acting as a promotion platform makes it look like this:
Gaming journalism and the often uncomfortably relationship to video game companies basically - that's a very delicate topic and why we see a bunch of genuinely concerned folks (calm down fanboys DF went from "360 bias" to "PS4 bias" - you go figure).
lol, if this was for Sony's next console you'd never mention a thing.
Dude, they've done coverage for everything. Get over it.
Colbert
Banned
I think they are really confident in what they have designed with the Scorpio and are not afraid of any critics by DigitalFoundry. It don't expect an article with no criticism but the pros will overshadow the cons. There is always something you can do better but you also need to remind yourself that they have to balance out cost and spec and capabilities they put into the console.
Which part of the information you saw in your crystal ball from Thursday makes you feel that any of that has changed now?
Are you implying that DF is going to flat out lie about the specs?
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Jesus man. If only. This would be more like for am E3 show but........yeh......no way.
MassiveNights
Banned
And there is an indication they won't do this on Thursday?
wesleyshark
Banned
Thursday will be no different.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I'm really not concerned about future Sony or Nintendo coverage but seeing how DF is ok with being an advertising platform for a console manufacturer or just hardware in general definitely leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
DF presents themselves as a pure fact driven tech outlet. That doesn't interfere with showing or analyzing any graphics card or console sent by the manufacturer - but the fact that they're acting as a promotion platform makes it look like this:
Gaming journalism and the often uncomfortably relationship to video game companies basically - that's a very delicate topic and why we see a bunch of genuinely concerned folks (calm down fanboys DF went from "360 bias" to "PS4 bias" - you go figure).
Well look at this way, people here have played down what John Linneman posted on gaf and then proceeded to edit about what he said about Microsoft a few months ago, stating he wished they never entered the gaming Industry but can put those feelings completely aside. He said this because they were being accused of Xbox bias by a few posters and that was his response with a hint of disbelief at the very thought of it.
Now if the console warriors want to go at it, fine but if that's how he really feels he shouldn't edit the post and stand by what he said. If anyone has some sort of distrust it should be the Xbox fans.
If they liked the Pro they will love the Scorpio.
I still think they got the scoop because they were going to leak the specs though
It does mean, however, that we are gunna have a piece done by people who desperately need voice training and say "experience" far too much.
Let's play a drinking game: if DF says "Xbox Experience", drink 2 shots of pure ethanol
DOT DASH DOT
Member
Have to say this is great for a first reveal, getting an outfit that actually know what they are talking about dish the dìrt.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
So we've gone from DF being the perfect place to release the specs in a detailed deep dive, to backhander conspiracies and comparing them to Dorito Pope before the article is even up? Amazing.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I said this in the previous thread, and it looks like I was right? lol
Come on guys, can't we just have 2 days? Just 2 days? I promise we'll shut up after that.
Come on guys, can't we just have 2 days? Just 2 days? I promise we'll shut up after that.
How hardware illiterate are some of you to where you think DF can just lie about stuff on Thursday and not be immediately called out for it?
Do you people think that Digital Foundry has magical powers that allows them to analyze things that no one else can? They got popular. They aren't the only people on the planet who understand computer hardware lol.
Do you people think that Digital Foundry has magical powers that allows them to analyze things that no one else can? They got popular. They aren't the only people on the planet who understand computer hardware lol.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
My embody chair arrived early, I'm gonna mix up a London Light sit back and enjoy the evening in style.
Yep, specs are specs.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Is there seriously people saying that Digital Foundry revealing this is bad? WTF they are the best in the gaming industry when it comes to this kind of stuff also the target audience of the Scorpio is exactly the kind of people that watch/read Digital Foundry content I'm very happy for them I love their job and this exclusive is great for them congratulations
Nuance: I did not say they are being paid. But seriously, how do you know they are not paid ?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Whether they get the box themselves or Microsoft gives them the box early...it's the same box. What they report Thursday is what they'd report in 4 months time. Or 6 months time. The specs are the specs.
What is happening in here?
Did you study Law at Trump University...?
It's because it's the next Xbox and that is the only reason. For some folks, Microsoft could deliver them a truckload of gold bars, and instead of being happy, they would instead find something wrong with the way it was loaded and then proceed to piss all over the truck as they asked the driver to return it.
Exactly. Scorpio has to be a lot stronger than the PS4 Pro. Otherwise it wouldn't look good especially with DF being the ones who reveal the hardware. You don't want them to go "yeah, it's like the PS4 Pro". That's not good enough.
Absolutely, because I enjoy nothing more than seeing some of my favorite gaming sites in bed with gaming companies.
Why am I not reading the official PlayStation magazine again? I think they offer a very interesting view on any gaming aspects!
TheSpecialOne
Banned
No but with arrangements like this, one needs to be wary. There is enough historical examples of media outlets choosing to conveniently overlook or underplay certain aspects when in similar arrangements.
I hope not but we'll see won't we?
It'll no doubt be a powerful box, the most powerful console to date. That being said, I hope the comparisons are equal especially when it comes to the PC.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
And Thursday will be unbiased. I can guarantee there would be no fuss about it on here if this was for the PS4 Pro reveal. Sorry, but I don't believe your concern.
LMAO.
wesleyshark
Banned
Microsoft is paying me to quote this and say that this sounds ridiculous.
Idle Storm
Member
Some people just don't understand this and jump to conclusions because apparently any information released exclusively is biased and paid for. *shrugs*
Scorpio is a fine name.
It has traction, people know the name, people like the name. And it harks back a bit to the days of SEGA that actually named their consoles and not called it "Super <Company Name>" or "Company Name 64" or "<Brand name> 2/3/4".
Nothing wrong with a nice name for one of these things
. Even Nintendo does it since the Gamecube .Do you think we'll get the price too? I think we won't because it will be over 400, as it will be a beast
Wary of what? lol
They are going to cover the hardware. Not software. The hardware is the hardware.
wesleyshark
Banned
We won't see a price until E3 at the earliest.
I've never seen someone make a contradiction in a single sentence before.
How about you wait until Thursday. Give the tinfoil a chance to cool down a bit from the flames protruding from your earholes..
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