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Overwatch |OT9| There is no Cow Hero
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Garrett Hawke
Member
i just don't see how it would make people less toxic.
yeah, it might make people less likely to pick on good players, but if someone doesn't appear to be doing much then they're going to get even more shit than usual.
like if someone is really effectively controlling space to the point where no-one is even stepping in front of them they're not going to have a lot of damage or elims once they've established that dominance.
additionally there are a lot of times when dying makes sense, like trades on a really important character (mercy w/ res) or just to stall a point for x reason. showing deaths just gives another avenue for people to go on the attack.
idk, i think it's a weird idea. with the current system people can only use their perception and the limited info from medals to flame others, and it's already bad enough.
yeah, it might make people less likely to pick on good players, but if someone doesn't appear to be doing much then they're going to get even more shit than usual.
like if someone is really effectively controlling space to the point where no-one is even stepping in front of them they're not going to have a lot of damage or elims once they've established that dominance.
additionally there are a lot of times when dying makes sense, like trades on a really important character (mercy w/ res) or just to stall a point for x reason. showing deaths just gives another avenue for people to go on the attack.
idk, i think it's a weird idea. with the current system people can only use their perception and the limited info from medals to flame others, and it's already bad enough.
UltimaPooh
Member
Reposting since bottom of page. Need one more for GAF PS4 Customs!
Garrett Hawke
Member
i'm too tired, just wanna chill in qp. hope you guys find someone 
:'(
RuinerPrime
Member
killdatninja
Banned
Currently a wait, you can join in and wait in spectators.
Orochinagis
Member
These inhouse games are really scary
Really fun!
UltimaPooh
Member
Add me. UltimaPooh. We'll add people when a space opens.
What? Nah, that is most certainly not the case.
I mean, I think they should definitely add it, but there is no way it does not just make people nastier. That is not how the internet works 😟
Hurt and Scared
Member
Who do I friend to spectate gaf custom PS4 games?
TJ-Ramirez
RoninChaos
Member
Had this since launch and now I'm finally playing it. HOLY SHIT.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
If you try to kill TJ's Soldier as Tracer you're gonna have a bad time.
At least it is not 300 down the hole.
Lol, Pooh was pocket healing me, blame him.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
It wouldn't have mattered if I could hit a pulse bomb!
It is though. People jump on certain heroes as 'the issue' even when they're carrying. And there's no way to display that in game for the whole team to see
veloxStrix
Banned
What goes on the scoreboard? Reinhardt having more kills than Soldier because the enemy has been diving him in particular? Ana having less healing than the Lucio because the enemy Pharah has forced them to go offensive? Tracer having Bronze elims but consistently distracting and separating the enemy team?
I don't think the scoreboard would help at all. We talk about DPS, Healers, and Tanks, but there are way more roles than that especially as the player skill increases.
The rarest thing in the skillset of Overwatch players is the ability to critically and objectively analyze their own and their teams play. It might be one of the most difficult things for humans to do in general. A scoreboard isn't going to help anything.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
That was great, thanks for setting it up Ultima. Awesome games everyone. And good guy Blizzard giving us exp for custom games, got two boxes, event Rein and Blackwatch Genji.
Yea, it's great you still earn XP. That was one of the main turn offs for me in custom Halo.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Learned a lot:
Lik Junkrat is as good (annoying) as advertised when you're on the other side.
Ramirez is insanely good at Overwatch
Optimus got banned and became Punished Optimus. He was always good, but now, DAMN.
Too many PS4 Tracer's, I better change mains.
Anyone who played and isn't on my friends list feel free to add.
Lik Junkrat is as good (annoying) as advertised when you're on the other side.
Ramirez is insanely good at Overwatch
Optimus got banned and became Punished Optimus. He was always good, but now, DAMN.
Too many PS4 Tracer's, I better change mains.
Anyone who played and isn't on my friends list feel free to add.
UltimaPooh
Member
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone on #PS4WatchGAF for coming out and making this an awesome success. 5 hours of super awesome fun!
We all had our fantastic moments in the games and it was soooooooo much better than regular old QP.
I'll plan on another one in a couple of weeks. Don't want to get fatigued like PC GAF
We all had our fantastic moments in the games and it was soooooooo much better than regular old QP.
I'll plan on another one in a couple of weeks. Don't want to get fatigued like PC GAF
Vault Dweller 111
Member
I was Batman
Same thing that goes on TF2's scoreboards. You generate points for things other than just kills, similar to how Reinhardt or Mei gets points for 'Blocking +50" etc
UltimaPooh
Member
yea. i dont see him pocket me when he said pharmercy
I gotchu a few times. I had your back on Anubis dude.
Kinda curious to watch the VOD just to hear if people were reacting to me killing them as Junk.
you fly away quick! not like how you pocket TJ, most last half of the game!
UltimaPooh
Member
Kinda curious to watch the VOD just to hear if people were reacting to me killing them as Junk.
I called you, Ramirez, Ruler, and TWrecks dicks multiple times.
He had some good positions. Also our team wasn't losing a lot of health when I was pocketing him... its why I stayed with him. I bailed on him whenever our team needed healing.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
veloxStrix
Banned
And I don't think that a scoreboard would quantify these things in a way that would be any more helpful than the current system. There is only 1 statistic that matters at the end of the game. It is an ordinal variable with 3 values: Victory, Defeat and Draw. The medal system is one of the most absolutely awful metrics for measuring your performance. Relevant stats would be things like Solo Kills, Damage dealt that was healed by an opponent and didn't lead to a kill, damage tanked (and then healed), what % of that damage gave the enemy no ult charge, and etc. I would literally rather not have any access to stats in competitive play than have what we have now. They're worse than useless; they're counterproductive. Unless a scoreboard is going to be a massive statsheet with relevant variables, I can't see it helping either.
Now optional TF2-esque statsheets in Custom Games? Those would be amazing for coaches and analyst. But that isn't what we're talking about.
TheThinWhiteDuke
Member
If people are dicks without any hard evidence, what makes you think they'll be less of a dick with it? Whether you are justified in being a dick or not, you are still being a dick. Blizzard is against players in their games being dicks.
Blizzard has been very up-front about wanting everybody to feel good about their game, as much as possible, at least. Give dicks hard (heh) data to go after people with, and the Junkrats clutching their Damage Golds to their chests get harassed. It's just not going to ever happen on the scale you want.
At least in QP. I could see it coming to Comp, in limited form, and I personally would be willing to give that a go.
sadly it wasnt on vod lol
UltimaPooh
Member
I was going to get a mic today. Next time tho. I'll figure it out and put it on my mac. Don't worry... UltimaPooh cuss sessions are coming!
Im pretty sure you heard me call people dicks when you were on my team anyways.
Orochinagis
Member
My team were pretty afraid of ramirez , like always.
We didnt have someone who kept an eye of possible flaks of him which were pretty often
We didnt have someone who kept an eye of possible flaks of him which were pretty often
TWrecks310
Banned
Had a lot of fun playing with you tonight guys! We should do it again sometime
Lmao I'm watching just to hear this. If I remember right I was harassing your Zen pretty well on Illios.
Lmao I'm watching just to hear this. If I remember right I was harassing your Zen pretty well on Illios.
UltimaPooh
Member
You wont hear me. I dont have mic feed for myself. Working on it tho. Next in house you'll hear me.
I enjoyed our Tracer 1v1 tho. Im still a noob at her.
Skyball Paint
Member
Yep.
I think how the game implies "more elims=better" is a huge mistake.
For example, on control point maps, if I only get 8 elims, but they're crucial picks and we roll the enemy as a result, that's a way better round than one where I get 30+ eliminations and only cap by the skin of my teeth in overtime.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
My one good play of the night. Went Dva just to stop Ramirez from getting high ground behind us and wiping the whole team every couple minutes. Ended up working, and we barely beat the evil empire.
https://youtu.be/Fgld6XNK0xM
https://youtu.be/Fgld6XNK0xM
UltimaPooh
Member
Lmao @ everyone is scared of Ramirez. He's good guys but not impossible to kill.