Considering that they're reusing UMvC3 assets, I wouldn't be too worried about the roster size.
If Capcom did what they did with SFV & redo everyone from scratch, that'd be a different story.
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Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite Story Trailer, Sep 17th, 8 reveals, 6 2017 DLC characters
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If Capcom did what they did with SFV & redo everyone from scratch, that'd be a different story.
James Chen said this before and I agree. Smash does "tutorials" better than any fighting game. Things like "break the targets" are an amazing way to teach players at least one aspect of the game without it obviously being a tutorial. While games like Xrd obviously have amazing tutorials, more fighting games need to think outside the box like that.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
And this game launches in less than 5 months.
Can't say I'm hopeful that it's going to be a fleshed-out package.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
How important is this change, really.
People keep throwing around the phrase "dumbed down" but to keep this in perspective, we're talking about flicking your thumb down twice and hitting a button as opposed to rolling it to the right and hitting a button.
How much smarter is the one than the other?
People keep throwing around the phrase "dumbed down" but to keep this in perspective, we're talking about flicking your thumb down twice and hitting a button as opposed to rolling it to the right and hitting a button.
How much smarter is the one than the other?
Two things: 1. I am surprised that this will hit in 2017 given they have announced a release date. Things could change, but I doubt it now. 2. At this point I'm giving up on a Switch release. I was really hoping for it. If I get it it will be on PC since I don't have PS+ anymore.
Haha you joke, but depending how this pans out I might prefer a card game.
I mean, I ultimately liked SVC Card Fighters more than SVC Chaos/CVS1.
Prism Sentence
Banned
I don't disagree, but the FG market is shrinking to a freaking pinhole.
Somebody has to try something, even if that means FGs as we currently know them might be at risk. I personally don't think what makes FGS worth playing is necessarily in how specials are executed.
Son Of Sparda
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『Inaba Resident』;234698485 said:
A big Marvel game with all of their beloved MCU characters is gonna bomb? In 2017? Come on.
In some aspects, yes. But in others competitive Smash is hard to get into because the game is really bad at explaining mechanics. The Smash 4 training room doesn't even work properly or take into account rage.
TheDinoman
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Funny you say that considering character specific target tests haven't been a thing in Smash Bros. after Melee, lol. Smash 4 didn't have Break the Targets in general, opting instead for that Angry Birds clone thing.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Beautiful
It's a side neutral input for autocorrect DPs, which makes cross ups less powerful.
Storm Chamber
Banned
If you have to ask...
In addition, it's possible it indirectly nerfs stuff like wavedashing if that's somehow still in.
The Lone Dragon
Member
It's not how it used to be.
That fact alone is enough is often enough for some people to dig their feet in, kicking and screaming.
Personally, I'm all for seeing how it goes before judging.
wut
It's Story Mode launched....4 months after the game came out
It took them a month to release Character Trials
It took them 3 months to release the in-game Shop
People still complain about the lack of Arcade Mode and poor Quality-of-Life devices in the game
And Survival Mode is shit
There was nothing for casuals at launch, and there continues to be little reason to do so.
NoizyChild
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So is everyone sure that this isn't another Simple Mode mechanic? Because that's what it sounds like to me.
I'm confident that there will still be an option for traditional inputs.
I'm confident that there will still be an option for traditional inputs.
TheTylerRob
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Non MK 2d fighting game though. It'll sell better than sfv but the casual player still knows that they aren't good at 2d fighters.
FadedRevolution
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Thats what he said.
Professor Beef
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1) nobody who can make actual changes will read the thread
2) you'll get juniored by your third repeat thread
3) stream monsters will do what they already do: nothing
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It took me a week to get used to that inputs because I like certain characters in SSF4..
lol
Be glad that Punisher still have a chance, unlike She-Hulk.
I do think they might try to follow what Injustice did because I'm pretty sure Marvel noticed that Injustice probably broke like 5M sales, so they want a pie of those cash.
Welcome to our club now!
Maybe both.
NoctisVsStar
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I can't tell if this is necessary in order for the FGC to survive? it does make me wonder a game like sfv which is obvious they made the barrier easier has pushed some people to purchasing the game or not (which we know is no) idk if eleague has even led to some purchases?
These are testing times.. I got some many conflicting feelings at the moment.
These are testing times.. I got some many conflicting feelings at the moment.
It's not really that important at all, in the grand scheme of things. As mentioned before, certain games like Melty Blood have Down, Down + Attack as a DP for some characters as it is, and it works well for a game like that which still thrives on various movement options, character-specific subsystems and the like. And hell, Marvel has been slowly but surely turning more "anime" by each progressive game, that this just sounds right in line with that.
I'd be much more concerned for everything else we're going to read/see/hear about, honestly.
Spyder_Monkey
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This looks kinda good? I mean I don't trust them after releasing SFV unfinished and the pre-order shit is bullshit but I like that Ultron and Sigma are this fusion.
BronsonLee
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OH GOD THIS IS A MELTY BLOOD THING
CANCEL EVERYTHING
CANCEL EVERYTHING
NoctisVsStar
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Looking mad suspect in my eyes.
TheTylerRob
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1 & 3. Stream monsters will continue not buying shitty games. Like how they didn't buy SFV.
2. Do you not remember the days when there was an SFV shit post thread on the front page every day?
Read his post again.
So they went to the drawing board and said "You see how well Marvel movies are doing? We want all those consumers to play our game and not the 1.1 million people that bought UMvC3!"
You are gonna get a HUGE backlash, but I also remember there being a HUGE backlash when they announced the default control scheme for MvC3 and we all survived.
I'm personally still excited maybe I can play in my bed now casually.
The Lone Dragon
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SF5 is still here, though. Still getting played. Still getting updates and content.
Clearly, someone is buying that content, or they would have stopped spending the money to create it months ago...regardless of what stream monsters say.
NoctisVsStar
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Capcom you want profit from casuals, just do the following:
1) give them their arcade mode
2) attack time mode
3) survival
4) world tour with rpg-esque element
5) story mode incorparted with in arcade mode with some anime cutscenes.
That's all you need to do.. i don't give a shit about your shitty dlc practices because it's a loss cause and it's 2017.
For the love of god stop making things easier and easier for the upcoming gen of gamers.. lord.
1) give them their arcade mode
2) attack time mode
3) survival
4) world tour with rpg-esque element
5) story mode incorparted with in arcade mode with some anime cutscenes.
That's all you need to do.. i don't give a shit about your shitty dlc practices because it's a loss cause and it's 2017.
For the love of god stop making things easier and easier for the upcoming gen of gamers.. lord.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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This is just the first change. It's not something that's being done in isolation.
TalentBurke
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And I thought MVC3's control scheme was dumbed down...
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Did you forget that they already took out assists? It's not even a real team game anymore.
Professor Beef
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I don't normally go into Gaming-side since that's where conversations go to die.
And I'm willing to guess that most of those threads were done by different people, which doesn't counter the point I made.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Just a quick skim thru the last page sounds like they dumbed down the controls? Maybe now I can finally buy one and be alil good
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I think I need someone to hold me.
If they take DP away from us.
WHAT WOULD BE NEXT?
NO MORE DASH BUTTON?!
NO MORE AIR DASH?!
NO MORE TRIDASH?!
It's end of Marvel Vs. Capcom franchise!
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If they take DP away from us.
WHAT WOULD BE NEXT?
NO MORE DASH BUTTON?!
NO MORE AIR DASH?!
NO MORE TRIDASH?!
It's end of Marvel Vs. Capcom franchise!
/s
I don't give a shit about all those modes.
All i want is to do some awesome moves and combos without having to put tons of hours into the game.
I bought a fightstick especially for SF4 and couldn't even finish the fucking tutorial. Shit was just too hard.
Professor Beef
Banned
This as well. If the well hasn't dried up yet, then Capcom obviously will keep going like they're doing right now.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Now we miss mvc3 days
Instant gratification is a problem.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Preach. Hopefully more casual ppl will buy it now so I can have fun online abit lol
Professor Beef
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Sounds to me like you just don't wanna play fighting games, or can't be asked to actually practice them.
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