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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.

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Wilsongt

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Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

The Democrats want to shut government if we don't bail out Puerto Rico and give billions to their insurance companies for OCare failure. NO!
7:30 AM · Apr 27, 2017

Everytime I sfart to think "Does he realize...?" i need to immediately stop myself, because he doesn't.
 
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Aaron Strife

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Wilsongt said:
Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

The Democrats want to shut government if we don't bail out Puerto Rico and give billions to their insurance companies for OCare failure. NO!
7:30 AM · Apr 27, 2017
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chadskin

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Politico on Trump's first 100 days, good read: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/27/the-education-of-donald-trump-237669

Trump had campaigned in generalities — ”repeal-and-replace with something terrific," he'd promised — and after the election Trump and his team decided to let Ryan take the lead on health care. Trump just wanted to sign a bill. He didn't necessarily care what it said.
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One key development: White House aides have figured out that it's best not to present Trump with too many competing options when it comes to matters of policy or strategy. Instead, the way to win Trump over, they say, is to present him a single preferred course of action and then walk him through what the outcome could be – and especially how it will play in the press.

”You don't walk in with a traditional presentation, like a binder or a PowerPoint. He doesn't care. He doesn't consume information that way," said one senior administration official. ”You go in and tell him the pros and cons, and what the media coverage is going to be like."
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Several senior administration aides said Trump loves nothing more than talking to reporters – no matter what he says about the ”failing" New York Times or CNN – and he often seems personally stung by negative coverage, cursing and yelling at the TV.
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Wilsongt

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BoogieWoogie said:
What, its not normal to take a 2 week vacation in your first week on prime time?

Waters should have fucking been done already after that Chinatown bit, but Fox News gonna Fox News I guess.
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Because a blatant racist is a-okay with fox and advertisers, but as soon as you start reaching sexual harassment territory people get a little nervous.

It's a pretty good slice of American values at the moment.
 
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jmdajr

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AndyD said:
That was always his intention. Let others do the work and he takes the media credit.
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Speaking of media, that's pretty much who runs the show now. What can I do to please Fox, but not piss off MSNBC/CNN too much.

edit: Lol.Picture framed of Donald riding the truck.
 
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nature boy

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The Technomancer said:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-100-days-pueblo-20170427-story.html

jfc I really don't think we can reason with these people
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You weren't joking:

Greg Smith was a Democratic activist and former precinct captain who supported Barack Obama in 2008. But over eight years he grew convinced that Democrats were more concerned with creating jobs for bureaucrats and passing along handouts than caring about people like him.

He works 110 hours a week and still can't afford health insurance, Smith said from behind the bar at his Greenlight Tavern, which has operated downtown since the Depression. A homeless person collapses, he said, and rescuers show up, ”put him in a room, give him a sponge bath, medication, and who pays for that? Me."

Smith, 59, voted for Trump and is glad he did.

He's promoted a ”buy American, hire American" policy, and just wait, Trump backers say. Maybe it's unrealistic to bring 6,000 steel-making jobs back to Pueblo, says Reichert, whose father and grandfather both worked in the mill. ”But why not 4,000?" she asked. ”Why not 3,000?"

Critics point to Trump's frequent golf outings and taxpayer-funded trips to Florida, but that's nothing more than sore-loser talk, the president's defenders say. Obama golfed too, they note, and as for Trump's costly travels, give him a break. ”If he's doing his job," said Republican Adam Huskin, 30, a roofing contractor in upscale Pueblo West, ”I don't really care where he's doing it from."

Some see a series of flip-flops: On NATO, on the Iranian disarmament deal, on support for the Federal Reserve chair, among many. Trump backers see something else entirely: the savvy of a deal-maker.

Take China, for instance. Trump vowed to slap a fat tariff on the world's most populous country but has since backed off, which strikes Tom Ready, a Pueblo West dentist, as perfectly sound.

”We're not going to go to war with our biggest trading partner," said Ready, 73, a Republican who showed up at the Eagle club in a skull T-shirt promoting his motorcycle club, the Uglies. ”He said, ‘OK, let's work it out.' What's wrong with that? I don't call it changing policies. I call it a better way of doing things."
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The beautiful and talented Kellyanne Conway couldn't have done better.
 
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dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
The Technomancer said:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-100-days-pueblo-20170427-story.html

jfc I really don't think we can reason with these people
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Until they are directly affected, they will support him. The people interviewed don't care about EPA, tax reform, North Korea, etc. They just care about their current day to day life. Trump talks big, delivers little, but the big talk is enough for them to have hope in. They WANT to believe him and support him, so outside of coming to down and personally shutting down the bar they go to everyday, they will support him.
 
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studyguy

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Trump's been tweeting about a shutdown all this morning while pretty much ignoring the relative safety of the current position on negotiations after they folded on wall funding and they allowed through CSR payments.

Shit's stupid, the man stirs the pot without any real knowledge of what's going on.
 
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Zolo

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dskillzhtown said:
They just care about their current day to day life.
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While Trump will always have a certain amount of support, this is also why I feel his approval can very much get lower. Trump's low approval ratings aren't even from doing stuff that would actually affect the lives of those that might still approve of him.
 
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sangreal

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studyguy said:
Trump's been tweeting about a shutdown all this morning while pretty much ignoring the relative safety of the current position on negotiations after they folded on wall funding and they allowed through CSR payments.

Shit's stupid, the man stirs the pot without any real knowledge of what's going on.
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sounds to me like he's threatening csr payments again. he's going to end up causing a shutdown if he keeps sticking his nose into things
 
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nature boy

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

As families prepare for summer vacations in our National Parks - Democrats threaten to close them and shut down the government. Terrible!

Democrats used to support border security — now they want illegals to pour through our borders.

Democrats jeopardizing the safety of our troops to bail out their donors from insurance companies. It is time to put #AmericaFirst🇺🇸

What's more important? Rebuilding our military - or bailing out insurance companies? Ask the Democrats.

I promise to rebuild our military and secure our border. Democrats want to shut down the government. Politics!

I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare
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Enjoy!
 
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barber

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etrain911 said:
So question: Would the government still be able to pass terrible laws if it faced a shutdown?
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Yes they can, otherwise it would be impossible to create a budget once you shutdown.
The problem with shutdown is taht the public sector (and all that is affected by public sector, lots of SME do tons of work with them) will be unpayed for an unknown length of time. I suspect elected officers are also unpayed (unless they somehow wrote a law protecting their salaries for that case) but that does not mean they have to stop working.
So yeah, they will still be able to write laws, the active agencies to force those laws? maaaaybe if the people want to work without getting paid in some months.
 
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Mikef2000

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studyguy said:
Trump's been tweeting about a shutdown all this morning while pretty much ignoring the relative safety of the current position on negotiations after they folded on wall funding and they allowed through CSR payments.

Shit's stupid, the man stirs the pot without any real knowledge of what's going on.
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It's the classic conman move. He escalates/artificially creates the problem and then "solves" it to get praise.


Just you watch, he will proclaim that he personally made the government avoid the shutdown.
 
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balladofwindfishes

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Mikef2000 said:
It's the classic conman move. He escalates/artificially creates the problem and then "solves" it to get praise.


Just you watch, he will proclaim that he personally made the government avoid the shutdown.
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But that hasn't worked, yet. His escalation during the Obamacare repeal probably hurt it more than helped.
 
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Abinash117

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nature boy said:
You weren't joking:



The beautiful and talented Kellyanne Conway couldn't have done better.
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Their vote is based on how much of their lives are getting better, not the failures that we see right now. They don't care about Trump's poor image; they care about results that benefit them.

With the opioid crisis, coal jobs still not doing well, White Americans dying prematurely, etc, their lives might not get better anytime soon. The first 100 days is not a good enough indicator.
 
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balladofwindfishes

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My one concern is that Nancy throwing herself into this will make the repeal more popular with GOP voters just because they hate her so much and anything that makes her angry must be a good thing.

But I also don't think that'll be a huge deal because the bill is just that awful and 80% of people seem to know how awful it is.
 
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Blader

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studyguy said:
https://twitter.com/annaedge4/status/857608614005145602


Dems not fucking around, but like. AHCA is going to fail one way or another. Just feels like positioning to make yourself look good once it does. idk.
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Not seeing a downside here. :lol

balladofwindfishes said:
My one concern is that Nancy throwing herself into this will make the repeal more popular with GOP voters just because they hate her so much and anything that makes her angry must be a good thing.

But I also don't think that'll be a huge deal because the bill is just that awful and 80% of people seem to know how awful it is.
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If the Republican voters who spent weeks assailing their reps with complaints about this law and how it will harm them suddenly forget about all that because they remembered how much they hate Nancy Pelosi, then they deserve ACHA.
 
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RustyNails

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balladofwindfishes said:
You go Nancy!
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balladofwindfishes said:
My one concern is that Nancy throwing herself into this will make the repeal more popular with GOP voters just because they hate her so much and anything that makes her angry must be a good thing.

But I also don't think that'll be a huge deal because the bill is just that awful and 80% of people seem to know how awful it is.
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It doesnt matter as long as Cali 12th district is happy. She can take the punishment, and has been doing so for decades.
 
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Ernest

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chadskin said:
Politico on Trump's first 100 days, good read: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/27/the-education-of-donald-trump-237669
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Jesus, not only is our president a fucking idiot, he has the attention span and emotional temperament of a 5-year old.

Even early in the election, my issue with Trump wasn't policy (not that I ever agreed with him), but what a piece of shit human being he is.
And he's been a piece of shit con-man in the media for decades! How do his supporters not see this?
 
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