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The Rise and Fall of Command & Conquer
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Only here to say that this Song is awesome
Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc
Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc
Such a great series, I miss Westwood.
At least most of the key Westwood guys are still around at Petroglyph pumping out RTS games. Frank Klepacki is still with them too making more awesome music.
At least most of the key Westwood guys are still around at Petroglyph pumping out RTS games. Frank Klepacki is still with them too making more awesome music.
Hell yeah, Frank and Mick is my fav game composers. They hit my notes juuuust right.
I've probably played at least a 1000 hours of Red Alert, Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun each. And actually a good portion of the hours I put in Red Alert were spent with the PS1 version of the game. Man, what a great series this used to be. Sometimes my friend and I spent just about an entire day with the map editor with a map book in our hands and recreate real-world locations. Those were the days.
I gotta buy that C&C collection the next time it's on sale.
Also: "Conflict of interest? No, I got interest in conflict". I should probably play Renegade. Seems like the writing is just the right kind of stupid.
I gotta buy that C&C collection the next time it's on sale.
Also: "Conflict of interest? No, I got interest in conflict". I should probably play Renegade. Seems like the writing is just the right kind of stupid.
R_thanatos
Member
I actually like the conclusion..
in an effort to do the same as the competition the C&C dna was washed out ..
And that was the true mistake EA made.
Renegade proved that as long as you keep the foundation solid, you can do anything with C&C but hey...
in an effort to do the same as the competition the C&C dna was washed out ..
And that was the true mistake EA made.
Renegade proved that as long as you keep the foundation solid, you can do anything with C&C but hey...
FriskyrumX
Banned
The one series where that I can go back and play all the games.... *cough* Besides 4, but that doesn't exist *cough*
It's really tragic how the series got shutdown / basically got wiped from existence. Really hope it makes a comeback. :/
Generals / Zero Hour will always be my favorite.
It's really tragic how the series got shutdown / basically got wiped from existence. Really hope it makes a comeback. :/
Generals / Zero Hour will always be my favorite.
You absolutely should and the MP is still active, at least last time I checked http://rencorner.com/ was still going. Go and play MP and get your ass kicked and enjoy what it is
You absolutely should and the MP is still active, at least last time I checked http://rencorner.com/ was still going. Go and play MP and get your ass kicked and enjoy what it is
Wow! That's pretty awesome actually!
TDLink
Member
People say Westwood was the heart of this series and it doesn't work without them, but CnC3 and RA3 are both great RTSes. CnC 4 was the only real misstep, so while it's the latest one I don't know why people have soured on the franchise altogether. Had a lot of fun with Kane's Wrath online.
Yea EA LA did the franchise justice with Generals and C&C 3. RA3 was pretty weak and of course 4 was a travesty.
FriskyrumX
Banned
Pretty much this, only one I never liked, obviously, will be 4. Other than that, I loved all of them, Westwood or not.
RA3 was fairly divisive. Lord knows I tried, but I just couldn't end up liking it. First of all the much inreased focus on micromanagement is precisely what I don't play RTS for (even if this is a hugely popular element among esports players. I found the much more zoomed in view compared to C&C3 to be a huge gripe as well. I don't know why they insisted on making it so cramped. The visuals didn't feel as readable as the earlier games (especially the Soviet designs where I was never quite sure wtf I was looking at), and just the whole feel and presentation (the RTS equivalent of "gunplay" if you will) just lacked that same oomph and satisfaction to it. Really weird since C&C3 was pretty much a bullseye in most of those categories. I think a lot of those problems can likely be explained by them trying to make RA3 play and feel different from C&C3 just for the sake of it, and they ended up needlessly changing up things that already worked great.
TheSadRanger
Banned
RA3's biggest problem campaign wise was the forced co-op which was probably out of EA LA's hands. Forcing an AI bot on your side if you didn't have someone play with you really hurt the campaign.
If it didn't have the forced co-op, I think RA3 would be held much higher in the series. I agree that EA LA gets kind of shat on and that Generals, C&C3 were very solid entries. EA LA was on a roll back then between that and Battle for Middle Earth.
Wow! That's pretty awesome actually!
Yup. Jelly-server.com was my home there but it seems its now dead after a decade
Yea I agree with all of this. Red Alert 3 leaned a little too much on the whacky aspects of Red Alert 2, and they ended up trying to make it look like an 80's cartoon which just didn't really work for me. It was a valiant effort and I don't hate the game, but it's not something I revisit often.
Really liked Red Alert 3, it hit a lot of the right notes and co-op missions were a pretty strong (but under appreciated) feature.It sold well enough for an expansion pack but i guess not enough to churn out another iteration.
I was always a (not very secret) admirer of the cheesy FMV sequences as well, Red Alert 3 brought it in that regard too.
Surprised whoever holds the Westwood licence didn't jump on the same HD bandwagon as Microsoft, AOE and AOM sold well didn't they? Not sure how Rise of Nations fared.
I was always a (not very secret) admirer of the cheesy FMV sequences as well, Red Alert 3 brought it in that regard too.
Surprised whoever holds the Westwood licence didn't jump on the same HD bandwagon as Microsoft, AOE and AOM sold well didn't they? Not sure how Rise of Nations fared.
Christ, there's cheesy and then they're crap, and the "ooh look at the sexy woman!" shit like you're pic made me barf. Disgraceful shit.
You know, the crazy thing is when you go back you realize they actually had some good actors in there..
Yeah that line was the best, I never used the mob but I would upgrade them just to hear that.
Another one I liked: Marauder Tank "What can I say? I'm a taker"
Rip
This is my childhood and I really miss it
We can be sad together :'(
In Kane We Trust
Bootador83
Member
Red Alert 2 and OG C&C will forever hold a place in my heart.
I had C&C months before I even owned a PC to play it, just kept rereading the manual!
I had C&C months before I even owned a PC to play it, just kept rereading the manual!
http://www.openra.net/ might solve your problems
The C&C collection that EA is selling on Origin all works fine in Win10x64.
Pretty good video. Too bad the channel doesn't have many retrospectives like it so far.
Has anyone got any recommendations for channels that make great gaming retrospectives? I already know a fair few of them, like Kim Justice, Retro Ahoy and Lazy Game Reviews, but I need moooooar!
Has anyone got any recommendations for channels that make great gaming retrospectives? I already know a fair few of them, like Kim Justice, Retro Ahoy and Lazy Game Reviews, but I need moooooar!
Vincent Alexander
Member
Some of the best RTS games. I never even heard of Starcraft until college about 9 years ago because I was too busy with Command and Conquer. I now love Starcraft, but C&C took all my time.
So it does support campaigns (including cinematics)? I took a look at their site and it seems to have an unfinished "let's port the campaign" project on the GitHub page, so I'd assume not.
Omega Kirby
Member
RA3 was great, people gave it too much flack for embracing what it was; The goofy brother of the Command and Conquer Universe.
Red Alert 1 started seriously but Red Alert 2 is where it began to go down the wacky path and Red Alert 3 cemented it and there's nothing wrong with that.
You want nitty gritty realistic aesthetics? You have Generals and Tiberium Wars for that.
Shame the series is dead now.
Red Alert 1 started seriously but Red Alert 2 is where it began to go down the wacky path and Red Alert 3 cemented it and there's nothing wrong with that.
You want nitty gritty realistic aesthetics? You have Generals and Tiberium Wars for that.
Shame the series is dead now.
Turin Turambar
Member
It doesn't work exactly like that. OpenRA is basically a open source new game, it isn't like in Doom or Quake that is a new engine that can use the old mission/art files from the original releases. The campaign missions that exists in OpenRA has been created for OpenRA specifically, and they only have done ~50% of them of the first two games.
Kane will make CnC great again
infinit777
Member
Its funny that you share this, i have been playing skirmishes on C&C , Tiberian sun, Tiberium Wars and red alert these last 2 days
I was hooked with the series from the moment I watched Command & Conquer's installation sequence back in 1998.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cioyLQ2O6yc
It was amazing to me at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cioyLQ2O6yc
It was amazing to me at the time.
Guess this is the option
Peace Through Power!
Beerman462
Member
I played the first C&C on the PS1. Even with that less than ideal interface it was a great game.