The Alamo is some high quality shit, I really wish I had one nearby. I went to one once while visiting family, easily one of the best theater experiences I've ever had.
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Alamo Drafthouse hosting women-only Wonder Woman screenings June 6th
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The Alamo is some high quality shit, I really wish I had one nearby. I went to one once while visiting family, easily one of the best theater experiences I've ever had.
Any word on how the second showings are doing?
That's assuming any of the concerns were legitimate in the first place.
That's assuming any of the concerns were legitimate in the first place.
I'm all the kinds of weirdo there are.
brianmcdoogle
Member
Since this is sort of about Alamo Drafthouse theaters, can I ask this here? (and thereby make the thread about me where I can go on for pages and pages and argue?)
I've never been to an Alamo Drafhouse theater, but are they like the AMC Dine-In theaters? Because, I hate those theaters. I don't like watching a movie in the comfort of a restaurant with people eating, clanging silverware, staff walking in and out and bringing in food during the movie, bring receipts to people near the end of the film while maybe the climax is going on, and so on. Or, is it different somehow?
I've never been to an Alamo Drafhouse theater, but are they like the AMC Dine-In theaters? Because, I hate those theaters. I don't like watching a movie in the comfort of a restaurant with people eating, clanging silverware, staff walking in and out and bringing in food during the movie, bring receipts to people near the end of the film while maybe the climax is going on, and so on. Or, is it different somehow?
everyday math
Banned
50ppp master race 😏
MugiwaraCole
Member
All black screening for Black Panther will be the greatest thing on the planet.
Its more like stadium seating with gaps in between the rows for serves to come along and take orders or give you food/drinks. Usually its just through a slip of paper you leave clipped to the edge of the little table or bar top in front of your seat and they usually grab it without saying anything. About 3 quarters of the way through the movie they come around to collect payment.
Only if I can get one of Sister Johnson and them's fish dinners in the lobby afterward.
RomanticHeroX
Member
I would watch the hell out of a clown only showing of IT.
I wish we had an Alamo Drafthouse here. We're not even that far from Austin, but it's a college town, which means most of the guests would be kicked out of every show. But hey, better for the rest of us, I say. Wouldn't have to be a very big theater, but there IS a market here for it.
'Cause Alamo Drafthouse gives NO fucks about complaints. The only people who complain are the type that they don't want as customers anyway. That's why I want one here that I can go to for every movie.. lol.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
It's MUCH less intrusive than AMC's dine-in theaters. Alamo Drafthouse does it right and I rarely notice that people are ordering and eating food. I just don't like going there because I end up spending $50 every time I do.
everyday math
Banned
First time Iv heard of them. So maybe this "controversy" isn't all bad in some aspects. I know if I ever see them I'll give them my business. And I understand yes at some lvl that's their goal, but you know what? I'm ok with helping encourage this type of attitude.
They also publicly clown cell phone users when they call to complain about being kicked out.
https://youtu.be/1L3eeC2lJZs
Also: Kevin Bacon
https://youtu.be/5czA-PyKkZY
everyday math
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Milkncooke
Member
So I'm only just now learning that there doesn't seem to be any sort of legal restriction on businesses discriminating against customers based on sex (usually in the case of pricing similar products differently depending on whether they're marketed to men or women). I also believe in the existence of safe spaces so I guess since it's not illegal to refuse men or women service there's nothing wrong with women only screenings.
In principle, however, I believe that businesses should not be able to discriminate against any protected class such as race, ethnicity, religion, people with disabilities, gender, sexual orientation or age (except for minors). I also don't think businesses should be able to discriminate against cross dressing or have any sort of dress code outside of "no shirt, no shoes, (no pants) no service" so long as the customer can pay for service.
I feel that businesses should be able to market events or even their entire business as "women only" or "LGBTQ exclusive" but that they shouldn't be able to outright refuse services, even on a one time basis, to anyone willing to pay and follow general courtesy.
In principle, however, I believe that businesses should not be able to discriminate against any protected class such as race, ethnicity, religion, people with disabilities, gender, sexual orientation or age (except for minors). I also don't think businesses should be able to discriminate against cross dressing or have any sort of dress code outside of "no shirt, no shoes, (no pants) no service" so long as the customer can pay for service.
I feel that businesses should be able to market events or even their entire business as "women only" or "LGBTQ exclusive" but that they shouldn't be able to outright refuse services, even on a one time basis, to anyone willing to pay and follow general courtesy.
Messofanego
Banned
Gregg Araki directing a superhero movie would be brilliant.Maybe, one day, when the first AAA gay superhero/heroine movie releases (with a gay director of course). Theaters can have LGBT friendly exclusive night and it would be cool too
MugiwaraCole
Member
Just stop. Please. You're being intentionally obtuse.
Who let the sea lion out.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
You're in luck. Not what's happening here. Will be other screenings..
I can see why that the way this was positioned would irritate people. The original advert for the screening actually doesn't read too bad, seems kinda playful honestly. But the twitter account of the theater with the trolling was definitely going to incite some people. So I guess this went exactly how everyone expected it would. The phrasing could have been changed to focus more on the GIRL POWER side of things than the NO GUYS ALLOWED angle.
I dunno, if it was done for marketing purposes it makes the intentions of the theater seem less genuine. However, if they can make money, while doing something good and fun for the girls, and donate to a charity all at the same time I guess it was well worth it.
I dunno, if it was done for marketing purposes it makes the intentions of the theater seem less genuine. However, if they can make money, while doing something good and fun for the girls, and donate to a charity all at the same time I guess it was well worth it.
MugiwaraCole
Member
What's so wrong about just saying "no guys allowed"?
The hell is wrong with you people? It's one showing.
MisterGrey3000
Member
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This has probably been alluded to before but...
...the infantile backlash to this news is rendered incredibly embarrassing by the fact this a special limited time screening, and these whiny entitled men can literally go see the film at any another time in any other theater that they desire.
Hell they can even go see it at any other time within the Alamo Drafthouse itself.
If this seriously bothers you, you've really got to get your priorities straight an get a grip on your warped view of reality.
You know what....I honestly don't think there would be depending on the context.
Like if there was a special limited-time male or male-identified only screening of a super hero/sci-fi/fantasy film that blatantly and specifically tackled important topics such as toxic masculinity, heteronormativty, effemiphobia/anti-effeminacy, and the rigid essence of manhood while also being a kick ass flick, I think a ton of feminist women (and men) would be totally fine with it.
Honestly...the men WHINING about this whole thing would most likely be the first ones to dismiss the special screening of the hypothetical film that I described as "faggy SJW anti-male feminazi cuck propaganda" or something like that.
This has probably been alluded to before but...
...the infantile backlash to this news is rendered incredibly embarrassing by the fact this a special limited time screening, and these whiny entitled men can literally go see the film at any another time in any other theater that they desire.
Hell they can even go see it at any other time within the Alamo Drafthouse itself.
If this seriously bothers you, you've really got to get your priorities straight an get a grip on your warped view of reality.
You know what....I honestly don't think there would be depending on the context.
Like if there was a special limited-time male or male-identified only screening of a super hero/sci-fi/fantasy film that blatantly and specifically tackled important topics such as toxic masculinity, heteronormativty, effemiphobia/anti-effeminacy, and the rigid essence of manhood while also being a kick ass flick, I think a ton of feminist women (and men) would be totally fine with it.
Honestly...the men WHINING about this whole thing would most likely be the first ones to dismiss the special screening of the hypothetical film that I described as "faggy SJW anti-male feminazi cuck propaganda" or something like that.
Women are used to being excluded, both implicitly and explicitly, from male dominated spaces. They'd more likely just shrug and move on. And if it were a movie like the one you describe, they'd probably actively encourage men to attend.
Messofanego
Banned
Still makes me laugh XDThis one?
salt goes real well on popcorn
Messofanego
Banned
It sold out almost immediately.
I'm honestly pretty baffled why the default response to anyone being against this idea on a philosophical level is to assume the absolute worst, that person is an MRA woman-hating hypocrite who only cares about equality when it directly effects them. That's a pretty big assumption to make, I'd say.
The real-world repercussions of this single movie theater excluding men on a single weekday in a random town are negligible. Especially with the press it's getting. There will maybe be 20 - 30 dudes who go that day, unaware of the stipulation, and will be turned away. Not a big deal.
But from a theoretical standpoint, I can't say I support the concept. Of course women have historically been marginalized, and that's an awful thing. But the goal of a free and just society should be equality for all humans, where elements of their existence beyond their control (race, sex, orientation, etc.) are complete non-factors in how they're able to operate and participate in society. I don't think excluding someone from a public good or service based on their chromosomes is a wise way to progress closer to a nondiscriminatory society, the same way I wouldn't be okay with this concept if the script was flipped (the next Superman movie having a boys-only screening for a day, for example). I've also always found it odd that it's legal to discriminate based on sex at certain clubs or bars - women get in free, men have to pay. Obviously I understand why it makes sense from a business and marketing perspective, but I've certainly never understood the underlying ethics as to why it's legal.
Again, I hope I'm being clear enough by stating the real-world consequences of this lone theater hosting this event are too negligible to matter in any meaningful way. But I still think it's an interesting jumping-off point for discussions like these, because in terms of what an ideal society should be, public businesses that can refuse service based on something found at the DNA-level wouldn't have a place in it.
*takes deep breath, prepares for an avalanche of vitriol*
The real-world repercussions of this single movie theater excluding men on a single weekday in a random town are negligible. Especially with the press it's getting. There will maybe be 20 - 30 dudes who go that day, unaware of the stipulation, and will be turned away. Not a big deal.
But from a theoretical standpoint, I can't say I support the concept. Of course women have historically been marginalized, and that's an awful thing. But the goal of a free and just society should be equality for all humans, where elements of their existence beyond their control (race, sex, orientation, etc.) are complete non-factors in how they're able to operate and participate in society. I don't think excluding someone from a public good or service based on their chromosomes is a wise way to progress closer to a nondiscriminatory society, the same way I wouldn't be okay with this concept if the script was flipped (the next Superman movie having a boys-only screening for a day, for example). I've also always found it odd that it's legal to discriminate based on sex at certain clubs or bars - women get in free, men have to pay. Obviously I understand why it makes sense from a business and marketing perspective, but I've certainly never understood the underlying ethics as to why it's legal.
Again, I hope I'm being clear enough by stating the real-world consequences of this lone theater hosting this event are too negligible to matter in any meaningful way. But I still think it's an interesting jumping-off point for discussions like these, because in terms of what an ideal society should be, public businesses that can refuse service based on something found at the DNA-level wouldn't have a place in it.
*takes deep breath, prepares for an avalanche of vitriol*
Messofanego
Banned
lmao
One dude going on about how this is discrimination gets banned, more pop up. It's like Hydra up in here. Oh wait, that's Marvel damnit.
Guys are not being turned away, they know fully that when a women-only screening will happen. You people make it sound so vague and complicated to navigate your way to a regular screening.
These dudes not wishing to live in reality and go on about a perfect equal world where none of this needs to happen.
BTW boy-only screenings, that's been happening for ages. Girls not allowed to certain events. Especially to anything nerd-related. Cooties, eww. Sitting next to girls in a cinema, eww.
Girls weren't even allowed to act on theatre a few centuries ago, so they had males play female characters. Can you believe it? Crazy times.
MisterGrey3000
Member
Edit: Dang, I quoted you before your edit. My bad.
Yeah, we're basically in agreement here.
Like I said, the only folks who wouldn't shrug it off and would probably be very mad about it, are the men who are complaining about this Wonder Woman screening.
It's the H.I.V.E!
Caught me before my edit. I agree that women would probably enjoy the idea of men watching a movie like that together. In fact, they'd probably actively encourage it if they're plugged into topics like hyper masculinity. We certainly wouldn't have three days of women whining about not getting to go, either way.
People suggesting male only viewings of Spider-Man or such is pretty revealatory of how they view those franchises. Men in "nerd culture" still have a problem thinking these things are theirs and theirs alone.
Edit: Then you edited in response to my edit! lol Whatever, let it rock.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Yeah, but I'm talking about the crowd that shows up. I'm sure there will be media for it so we'll see.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
The response from Drafthouse to the manbabies is absolutely hilarious.
Professor Beef
Banned
everyday math
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I hope everyone who's against this has shown the same amount of thought and disgust for men only events.
Ill say it again the ones who post in those comments have no love for equality. They don't.
I would feel honestly feel better if they actually posted their true thoughts not hide behind the shield of so called "equality" like they could even possibly understand what that truly means.
Ill say it again the ones who post in those comments have no love for equality. They don't.
I would feel honestly feel better if they actually posted their true thoughts not hide behind the shield of so called "equality" like they could even possibly understand what that truly means.
MisterGrey3000
Member
Hahaha dang man, I love how we both caught each other's edit.
But yeah man, we're pretty much on the same frequency right now.
^u^
Edit: Also good lord...I typed out "tone death" rather than tone-deaf. Dang it haha
I am so confused as to why this is a huge controversy even on Gaf of all places.
I would love to take my daughter to an all female showing. I don't even like DC but I love Wonder Woman. It's would be amazing to see it with only women because then there wouldn't be a chance of fucking trolls yelling about shot during the movie.
Sadly there is no Alamo near me. Boo.
Still going to see it.
I would love to take my daughter to an all female showing. I don't even like DC but I love Wonder Woman. It's would be amazing to see it with only women because then there wouldn't be a chance of fucking trolls yelling about shot during the movie.
Sadly there is no Alamo near me. Boo.
Still going to see it.
What did he mean by this?
Member
Preventing men from 1 specific service for 1 specific time period for 1 specific day at 1 specific place while offering an inclusive completely equivalent service for a multitude of time periods for a multitude of days at a multitude of places is the real enemy of progress
I honestly can't recall seeing any news stories in recent years about men's-only events. I'm not saying those events don't happen, but a women's-only event is bound to get much more media attention (which is unfair, for sure), but it maybe explains why more people see the story and are compelled to comment on it.
But I'd be just as against any men's-only equivalent to something like this. Hypocrites who cherry pick which part of their moral compass they'll follow based on whether or not it will effect them (instead of applying it equally out of a sincere desire for things like fairness or justice) represent the worst traits humanity has to offer.
Lynd7
Member
I can't either. Are there really recent examples of events that bar woman from attending? I feel it would cause a similar blowup, maybe I'm wrong though.
everyday math
Banned
That's my point. When it comes down to it idc about men only events. Do what you want. But as soon as a woman does it like you said it's a talking point.
It's not fair. And it upsets me. It's a fucking movie. Why can't we just enjoy things without all this baggage?
As a nerdy woman, there are tons of places that while not explicitly banned women are made to feel super uncomfortable in.
I was a hard core MtG player in the late 90s early 2000s. I quit because I got tired of walking into tourneys and being constantly harrassed.
everyday math
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No Girls Allowed: Toby Keith to Perform at Men-Only Event in Saudi Arabia as President Trump Visits
This is just the most recent. And because it's Saudi it's just accepted. You'll never hear about it.
Any examples of men only events in recent past? I'm asking just so I have evidence when people bring up how women shouldn't have this women only event and how it's unfair to men. Thanks