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I remember seeing a comment in the Eurogamer interview with Jim Ryan: "4thestakeholders or 4thegamers, which is it?"I mean they literally got so far into this gen by being "for the consumers".
I remember seeing a comment in the Eurogamer interview with Jim Ryan: "4thestakeholders or 4thegamers, which is it?"I mean they literally got so far into this gen by being "for the consumers".
sony's defense force in this thread has started
Funny you mention this.I have a question: can I log into my psn account to watch vue on the xbox? If not microsoft & sony should work that out too.
By how much, though? If it's negligible, then Sony won't waste their time.Having a competitive version of one of the world's most popular video games affects Playstation the business.
He is talking about "Playstation" the business, not the people who are consuming the content.
"we have a console for when you want to play Minecraft alone, it's called the PS4 Pro" - Rogue Phil Spencer
No Playstation user playing Minecraft with Xbox people is gonna think, "Man, these Xbox players are sure fun to play with. I should buy an Xbox One!"
You don't work with the enemy, period. Sony is just keeping it real.
arguably the most popular video game if we're talking lifetime salesHaving a competitive version of one of the world's most popular video games affects Playstation the business.
it's not amusing - at least not to me. it's disheartening. we are all on the consumer end of the spectrum here. "it's just business" "not good for sony" "sony will lose sales" "why work with the competition" "mS will boost MAU with PsN" + more bullshitYup and its really indefensible, so it's amusing to witness. There is no reason certain games should not have cross platform abilities at this point in time. Only thing I would be against is FPS titles on PC playing with console. A lot of games would have some serious legs if we could all play together.
The justification from users in here of shitty anti-consumer practices if sad.
If anything the hassle of signing up for another service will keep them from even doing it.
His point is that in order for a Xbox user to use the PlayStation Vue app, you would have to create a PSN id. So it would "equal" things out.
I don't understand what this whole discussion is about. Agreed it is better for gamers to have a larger pool of players. But Xbox saying they are being sages here and doing for the greater good is ridiculous. The way they have been presenting their business of late to investors is through Xbox Live user numbers and this is just a strategy to bump that number.(as they have clearly lost this gen in terms of pure hardware numbers)
Lmfao "the enemy"
Some of y'all need to take a fuckin walk outside or something
is this why rocket league will be crossplay with everything but PlayStation 🤔I don't understand what this whole discussion is about. Agreed it is better for gamers to have a larger pool of players. But Xbox saying they are being sages here and doing for the greater good is ridiculous. The way they have been presenting their business of late to investors is through Xbox Live user numbers and this is just a strategy to bump that number.(as they have clearly lost this gen in terms of pure hardware numbers)
About games other than Minecraft, seems purely a business decision not to give players a chance to consider getting an xbox over ps4 , say if their friends are over on PSN.
I don't understand people desperately trying to bat for one company over the other. Jim Ryan is a whole another case though. I don't think he should be allowed to speak to press.
By how much, though? If it's negligible, then Sony won't waste their time.
You guys arguing about this for three days is pretty sad lol.
Minecraft requiring a Microsoft account is the real reason. Once Microsft dropped sales numbers and went to MAUs, it gave Sony every reason not to up that number. This would allow Microsoft to claim any PlayStation user with Minecraft as part of their user numbers, which will make Microsoft look better.
Ps4 cross play with more than just PC? do you got a link?It's in the OP most people trying to defend this shit keep forgetting Rocket League cross-play is happening.
Ps4 cross play with more than just PC? do you got a link?
Ps4 cross play with more than just PC? do you got a link?
By how much, though? If it's negligible, then Sony won't waste their time.
It wasn't big last gen when Sony pushed for it. I don't see it changing now. Xbox fell for unrelated reasons. People just get online and expect to play with people. PS people expect to play with other ps people. They expect to be able to send friend requests and party invites after having met them in game x.I hope this keeps getting more and more attention. Eventually Sony will have to realize they need to change or the user base will shift if it's a big enough deal. I personally think cross play could be huge for the industry if it is embraced.
Furthermore, Rocket League will feature crossplay with Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, and PC. The third party developers of that game, Psyonix, have explicitly said that Sony is blocking the PS4 from playing with the other consoles.
Then why add the Switch at all if Sony already said no? Not like the install base is big right now.
is this why rocket league will be crossplay with everything but PlayStation ��
It's never going to happen guys.
Let it go.
Rocket League on PS4 does support cross-platform play, with PC
Star Trek: Bridge Crew PSVR does support cross-platform play, with Vive and Oculus.
So clearly they are handling this on a case-by-case basis.
Actually, Rocket League on PS4 does support cross-platform play, with PC
Meanwhile, Star Trek: Bridge Crew PSVR does support cross-platform play, with Vive and Oculus.
So clearly they are handling this on a case-by-case basis.
if you play with the cool kids long enough you start to become cool.PC is the cool kid everyone want's to play with.
okay, your post in the context of this thread made it seem like you meant Ps4 cross play in Rocket League is happening (besides the cross play already there)No I meant that people are trying to use the XBL login to excuse this but RL won't be using XBL to crossplay.
Yep let's throw it in the pile of things that are good for Sony shareholders:It's never going to happen guys.
Let it go.
No ea accessYep let's throw it in the pile of things that are good for Sony shareholders:
No cross play
No refunds