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[Gamezone]

Edit: im asking about forward compatibility

If the next generation consoles are released within the next few years, do you think every new game also have to function with XBOX and PS4 Pro? I'm especially uncertain about the PS4 Pro, because the Xbox One X is a bit more powerful, so I guess it would be easier for Microsoft to justify that.

But yeah, I'm not certain if I should by these mid cycle consoles because of this. I don't want to change out my console within the next few years.

 

[Mass Effect]

they don't "have" to do anything.

But I have more faith in Microsoft's system being backwards compatible than Sony's.

 

[ethomaz]

No. They don't.

Most games will run only on PS5 or Nextbox.

Nobody wants old machines holding back the new ones too.

 

[Rocketz]

I would assume so but they don't have to. MS is more of a sure bet with their BC efforts that this would continue with what their next console is.

 

[Orayn]

If changes to architecture and OS aren't too dramatic, I'm expecting some level of forward compatibility. I'm picturing a Madden 2020 box with a "Plays on PS4" banner, that kind of thing. I'd expect to see it mostly on yearly multiplats.

 

[Scorpion Soldier]

they don't "have" to do anything.

But I have more faith in Microsoft's system being backwards compatible than Sony's.

I guess with the PS4's architecture future BC will be more likely, but yeah, I definitely see MS putting a huge emphasis on it with future consoles past the 1X.

 

[Chill Penguin]

I expect it from Microsoft. But with Jim Ryan's comment about why people would want to play old ugly games, not so sure Sony will deliver backwards compatibility.

 

[BigPapi]

I predict that Xbox one x will be supported in the new gen whereas Sony is more likely to start anew with PS5. Of course like the start of this gen I expect the first 1-2 years most third party games will be cross gen anyway.

 

[jmaine_ph]

It'll most likely be that way with the Nextbox since MS is on the BC train but PS5 is up in the air. The hope for PS5 is that PS4 is x86 so that makes it easier.

 

[gamz]

MS yes, Sony I have zero idea.

 

[bryanee]

I think the OP is asking if new PS5/XB2 games will work on the old gen, not BC.

And boy I hope not.

 

[wonderful103]

There will be no more generational separation and cutoff. Future software going to work like idevices with ios updates. Some might require or highly recommend the new box but the old box might still work it to different degrees.

 

[InsaneTiger]

Consoles were a mistake

 

[matrix-cat]

You're asking if the PS4 Pro will be forwards-compatible with PS5 games? 100% no. It's just a more powerful PS4, nothing more. There'll be cross-gen games, and maybe the PS5 will play PS4 games, but the Pro isn't going to play PS5 games. It'd mean hamstringing an entire generation of games; imagine the hottest games of E3 2025 having to work on PS4 Pro hardware from 2016.

 

[Renekton]

Held back by Jaguars forever

 

[Toe-Knee]

There will be no more generational separation and cutoff. Future software going to work like idevices with ios updates. Some might require or highly recommend the new box but the old box might still work it to different degrees.

Not true. Mark Cerny said he wants the generation reset as it's the best way to improve power by a massive amount on the cpu side.

 

[kadotsu]

There will be a generational cutoff with PS5/XB2. The CPUs in the current gen boxes are so old that I can't see either manufacturer demand devs to spec for those in 2020 and beyond.

 

[TsuWave]

I think the OP is asking if new PS5/XB2 games will work on the old gen, not BC.

And boy I hope not.

i hope not too. old consoles hindering new games is annoying. i mean the first year or so of a new gen i don't mind cross generational games but after that we gotta cut them off

 

[hydrophilic attack]

MS yes, Sony I have zero idea.

lolno

Good luck with 2020+ games supporting a 2013 CPU

That would hold games back a decade

 

[Gamezone]

I think the OP is asking if new PS5/XB2 games will work on the old gen, not BC.

And boy I hope not.

You are right. Like everything released for PS4 Pro and XBOX have to work with the old systems.

 

[rgoulart]

Why are people talking about PS5? Geez, let us live in the present for a change.

 

[Salty Rice]

Looking all these PS5 and Xbox Two 720 XYZ Infinite threads people are sure already in next gen mode.

You gonna have to wait a little for that.

 

[Mass Effect]

I guess with the PS4's architecture future BC will be more likely, but yeah, I definitely see MS putting a huge emphasis on it with future consoles past the 1X.

Well the reason I say that is because Microsoft has explicitly said that letting people keep their games is a priority for them. So whatever their next system is, it will play all your Xbox One games, plus still have 360 and OG BC.

Sony on the other hand, I presume that the PS5 will be BC, but at the same time I won't be surprised at all if it isn't. Honestly in this day in age where ecosystem is everything and more people are expecting their previous purchases to work on new devices, it would be a bad idea for them to NOT have BC.

 

[Moneal]

I expect it from Microsoft. But with Jim Ryan's comment about why people would want to play old ugly games, not so sure Sony will deliver backwards compatibility.

the op isn't asking about BC, even though ryans comment was about ps1 and 2 not the previous gen, they are asking about FC. Basically will PS5 games play on ps4 pro and oneX. My guess would be doubtful, though MS has been hinting at "Generation Less" moving forward. I would bet on similar to every gen. we have cross gen games, games on both current gen and next gen but a ps5 game wont be playable on a ps4 or pro.

 

[Shin]

PS5 > PS4/P, most likely but won't play the other way around for a lot of reasons.
Mid-gen refresh vs an actual new generation, you can enjoy what's out there now and hope it's all BC with the new gen (high chance it is).

These consoles only costs $400-500 cheap enough to justify 2-3 years of entertainment, but that's my personal opinion.

 

[mas8705]

A bit of a redundant question to ask when we look at Sony if they have this paranoia of backwards compatibility (and how tech wise, it is unable to do backwards compatibility to begin with). As for Microsoft, it could be a rather safe bet that when we do get the next Xbox, they will probably want to keep the ability to play games on their previous consoles and carry them over (Especially considering that Microsoft just went out of their way to announce that original Xbox Games will be playable soon too. Perhaps not by disk, but in the same fashion as other 360 titles that are currently "Playable" on the Xbox One).

 

[Mass Effect]

You are right. Like everything released for PS4 Pro and XBOX have to work with the old systems.

Ohhh...

Microsoft: Probably
Sony: Unlikely

 

[FacelessSamurai]

No. They don't.

Most games will run only on PS5 or Nextbox.

Nobody wants old machines holding back the new ones too.

Never been a problem with PC, don't see why it'd be an issue with consoles. Just gotta have more performance targets, like PS4 setting, PS4 Pro setting and PS5 setting.

Although like most are saying, I feel Sony won't do it and Microsoft will push for it, especially with all the BC stuff they've been pushing and how they keep talking about the cellphone model and Xbox Beyond Generations. Also, I think the way their OS is built was made to be able to work on different hardware down the line.

 

[Masagiwa]

I doubt it, will be really hard to push tons of new systems if you can just keep your old one.

 

[99Luffy]

I hope so. If next gen games have to be backwards compatible then that'll give us a real chance at a 60fps standard.

No. They don't.

Most games will run only on PS5 or Nextbox.

Nobody wants old machines holding back the new ones too.

this was before $500 midgen consoles.

 

[BrokenIcarus]

Man if PS5 and NextBox really release in the next 3 years, I'm having a real hard time imagining how they could impress us. If they release a 400$ machine in 2020 how much better would it look than the Xbone X or the Pro? Especially with the former having 6TF, even if we get something like 1 TF, it's not even close to the jump from PS3 to PS4.

I think the best way to go is to have the new consoles be forwards compatible. And that will be much more difficult for Sony pull off naming wise. MS could just name their next consoles Xbox One S2 and X2 and then you'd know immediately, that they could play the old and the new games. When Sony comes up with a forward compatible PS5, it'd be much much harder to explain that.

It's really interesting times, pretty unprecedented I think.

 

[Boss Mog]

Um that's called forward compatibility and it has never happened so there's zero chance that it will, again ZERO CHANCE.

PS5 and Nextbox will probably be able to play PS4 and XB1 games though, provided they stick with x86.

 

[RoboPlato]

I doubt Sony will for PS4 Pro (unless the game is cross gen) but I could see MS turning One X into a lower end model as time goes on.

 

[ArmGunar]

Just no.

But every PS4/Xbox One titles have to be backward compatible on PS5/Nextbox

 

[99Luffy]

Um that's called forward compatibility and it has never happened so there's zero chance that it will, again ZERO CHANCE.

Didnt MS clearly say otherwise?

 

[RomeoDog]

Imagine this. When the next generation starts we're going to get cross generation games and their going to possibly come out on.

PS5/XN/PS4/PS4Pro/XO/XOX/SWITCH

 

[EBreda]

MS yes, Sony I have zero idea.

This.

But also I can't believe Sony would hand it over to MS that way. It would be too easy. Starting from scratch this day and age is a sure way to loose marketshare.

Eventually XboX will be the base model and NeXtBox will be the premium.

 

[darkinstinct]

What OP asks is called a cross gen title. Of course those will still exist. But after avyear or so into a new gen (depending on adaption rates) games will not run on the older platforms.

 

[nekkid]

I presume it's going to be a bit like the start of this generation where many big titles were released for the last generation as well as the new.

From an Xbox perspective, I expect the difference will be that there won't be two versions to buy, just one that supports both. That overlap time will probably be mandated by MS.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

I would hope that both consoles are fully backwards compatible.

 

[Shin]

Um that's called forward compatibility and it has never happened so there's zero chance that it will, again ZERO CHANCE.

PS5 and Nextbox will probably be able to play PS4 and XB1 games though, provided they stick with x86.

The architecture is there and has proven itself through out the years, all they need to do is upgrade RAM, CPU & GPU plus add whatever is trending and/or new features on top of it.
No drastic change to be expected I think moving forward, compared to previous generations.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

they don't "have" to do anything.

But I have more faith in Microsoft's system being backwards compatible than Sony's.

Yeah, with the way MS is handling it, I also have much more faith especially than with Sony as they cant even be proded have something like PS1 digital games on PS4. With digital purchases and online accounts being a thing on consoles, being able to keep my library across generations is even more important, cause otherwise you got home consoles trying to be PCs without a lot of the benefits and having to pay for online to boot. I mean my Steam account works mostly just fine after so many GPU and CPU hardware upgrades and changes.

 

[Shock32]

I hope not. I dont want a game midgen ps5 to function on the Pro. We need to move forward in that regard. I only want BC with ps5 and ill be a happy camper.

 

[ethomaz]

Never been a problem with PC, don't see why it'd be an issue with consoles. Just gotta have more performance targets, like PS4 setting, PS4 Pro setting and PS5 setting.

Although like most are saying, I feel Sony won't do it and Microsoft will push for it, especially with all the BC stuff they've been pushing and how they keep talking about the cellphone model and Xbox Beyond Generations. Also, I think the way their OS is built was made to be able to work on different hardware down the line.

It is actually a big issue on PC.

Most games didn't use new GPU/CPU instructions because they are hold back by old hardware.

Double rate FP16 will take years to be used (5+ years) because most GPU doesn't support it... that is just to give an example.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Sony's idea of generations says no. Jaguar has to be dumped, Zen, HBM and Navi will make Pro and even Scorpio irrelevant.

I think PS5 will be BC with PS4 and Pro games, so forwards compatibility won't even be necessary because pS5 will play PS4 games. In this so devs can continue making PS4 games indefinitely and they will play on both machines, until they feel comfortable moving to PS5 exclusively and fully taking advantage of the hardware. IN this way i think crossgen of previous gens where you have to make two versions of the same game for multiple gens is dead.

 

[Goalus]

No. They don't.

Most games will run only on PS5 or Nextbox.

Nobody wants old machines holding back the new ones too.

Wrong as far as Xbox is concerned.
In the Xbox ecosystem there won't be any generational cuts anymore. In three or four years, XB1X's successor will play exactly the same role that XB1X is playing now.

Sony might do a cut, they haven't made a clear statement yet.

 

[JaffeLion]

No. They don't.

Most games will run only on PS5 or Nextbox.

Nobody wants old machines holding back the new ones too.

lol so now that OG XBOX games will run on X1X do you think that they will be held back? 😂

 

[ethomaz]

Wrong as far as Xbox is concerned.
In the Xbox ecosystem there won't be any generational cuts anymore. In three or four years, XB1X's successor will play exactly the same role that XB1X is playing now.

Sony might do a cut, they haven't made a clear statement yet.

We will see... MS will launch a new gen console without any tie with this generation.

This nextbox will have exclusive games that only run on it and PC... no XB1 family support.

 

[Rellik]

I hope not. Cross gen games are the worst.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Ignore this post. Delete if possible. I read it wrong.