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Ben Affleck's Batman Future in Doubt as Warner Bros. Plots Franchise

Oregano

Member
I don't know who Dick is and I doubt WB will do that for a main Batman film.

Honestly if Justice League is trash, just soft reboot with a Flashpoint, replace the actors like Ben and awful whatshisface Joker among others. At least Wonder Women is stuck in the past with her films and is good. Basically start cherry picking the good ones and get off the ground running with the Batman, Wonder Women 2.

You don't know who Robin the Boy Wonder is?
 
Flash is the key to solving the DCCU problem. Just have him grab Wonder Woman and run to an alternate timeline with a positive rotten tomato score.

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Beth Cyra

Member
I don't know who Dick is and I doubt WB will do that for a main Batman film.

Honestly if Justice League is trash, just soft reboot with a Flashpoint, replace the actors like Ben and awful whatshisface Joker among others. At least Wonder Women is stuck in the past with her films and is good. Basically start cherry picking the good ones and get off the ground running with the Batman, Wonder Women 2.
Dick Grayson first Robin and Nightwing. Has been Batman in the comics and was a very popular version to boot.
 

Boke1879

Member
This film has been nothing but doomed from the get go. They should just can it and call it a day. As much as I loved Affleck in BvS and Suicide Squad, The Batman is one of those films that is more trouble than its worth.

They aren't canning shit with Reeves directing. And hell he probably gets to cast his own Batman. Something that would probably entice him further.
 

suaveric

Member
Maybe their thinking at the time was they could churn out a Batman film every two years, and perhaps even a cameo shot in another movie annually.

Yeah they definitely had bigger plans with more movies coming out quickly but that obviously didn't happen.

This is going to become a problem with both Marvel and DC going forward, eventually their actors are not going to be able to keep playing those parts, things are going to have to change. Should be interesting to see how it's all handled.
 
This film has been nothing but doomed from the get go. They should just can it and call it a day. As much as I loved Affleck in BvS and Suicide Squad, The Batman is one of those films that is more trouble than its worth.

They need to just reboot this shit now. Keep WW since its set far back enough not to mess up shit, but the rest needs to be thrown out into the garbage where it belongs. Sadly, looks like Justice League is too much of a sunk cost for them to do that. They need the Flash movie if/when it gets made to be a Flashpoint film at the very least.
 

J_Viper

Member
I don't even know who they'd recast him with, Gyllenhaal would be cool.

Jake G could pull it off, but he's gonna need some booster shoes

If they remove Affleck as Bruce Wayne, then this is further proof that WB has no idead WTF they are doing with DCEU.
It seems this might be mutual. Affleck is going through a rough patch

That being said, he's looking more swole recently. Why would he be working out if he wasn't planning to film Batman in a few months?
 

jelly

Member
You don't know who Robin the Boy Wonder is?

Is that who is. Well, that's news to me.

I haven't followed the comics, only the old animated stuff, films and some games. It escaped me. Heard of Nightwing as Arkham DLC but never played it.
 
He was fine, but recasting him wouldn't be a huge blow. It's not like he was amazing. He was just a bright spot in a shitty movie.
 
it was always a very weird idea to introduce Batman to the DCEU as a 45-year-old. There are at least interesting things that could have been done with that conceit, but of course BvS utterly botched that.
 

Busty

Banned
The sad fact of the matter is that Affleck's obviously in even worse shape than has been assumed.

For the man to drop out of playing Bruce Wayne after just two films points to a very bad personal situation indeed.

A shame. RDJ was coming off his personal demons (Iron Man went to prison kids!) when he joined the MCU and now it seems like Affleck's are just getting started.

Yeesh. This article couldn't have come at a worst time with the big DC presentation right around the corner. Perhaps Jo Manganiello might just be in The Batman after all..., just not as Deathstroke????
 

Bolivar687

Banned
I'm still bummed out he's no longer writing or directing, I just don't understand how you throw away an opportunity with an IP like Batman. It seems like he doesn't want it and we should probably brace for the inevitable.

Finally a place to post my Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jean Paul Valley fan casting.

This would be amazing. Bring Ben back when his mind's in the right place.
 

Ashhong

Member
This film has been nothing but doomed from the get go. They should just can it and call it a day. As much as I loved Affleck in BvS and Suicide Squad, The Batman is one of those films that is more trouble than its worth.

LOL some of you are straight up delusional

"more trouble than its worth" lolol
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
This is some Black Glove shit.

Come on Ben. You pretty much are Batman, just rise it out and deliver a performance so great the marks work themselves into a shoot.
 
That being said, he's looking more swole recently. Why would he be working out if he wasn't planning to film Batman in a few months?

He's probably still contractually obligated at this point, not to mention the practicality of waiting to the last minute should he end up doing the movie after all.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Don't you dare take my Batfleck.
Gyllenhaal for the Joker replacement.

Gyllenhaal would be pretty good but that made me remember Aaron Taylor-Johnson, who was in Nocturnal Animals alongside Gyllenhaal and kinda stole the spotlight from him. Dude was a real creepy fucker in that movie, I could see him playing a good Joker.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Dick taking over in the movies is a bad move. In the comics his character had been established for a long time prior. That isn't the case here, he's just now getting a solo film in early development. It wouldn't go over nearly as well. The majority of people who watch comic book movies aren't comic readers. And if the Nightwing franchise is a success, you're trading two money making franchises for 1 that makes money no matter what.

Recasting Batman is like Bond, we've had so many versions that it won't be a big deal. DC is gonna have to experiment with the idea before Marvel does, I guess.
 

Boke1879

Member
Do people know that they're using Flashpoint wrong?

People going too hard on saying "everything needs to be rebooted" it doesn't you just keep going really. After JL you get Aquaman and hopefully Flash. You're getting a Nightwing film, Batgirl.

I don't see what needs to be rebooted.

And you don't reboot with Flashpoint. If anything you have Barry go back in time and accidentally fuck with something.
 

J_Viper

Member
Yeesh. This article couldn't have come at a worst time with the big DC presentation right around the corner. Perhaps Jo Manganiello might just be in The Batman after all..., just not as Deathstroke????

I don't know if this is legit, but I remember reading somewhere that Joe Mango was Zack's first choice for Bruce before WB pushed for an A-lister
 

DMczaf

Member
Bale played the long game and turned down the initial $50M offer for a future $200M multi-pic offer knowing Affleck was a ticking time bomb

Smooth
 

Sephzilla

Member
Batman has been recast multiple times and has even been recast in the same movie continuity before, so recasting Ben if they want to part ways is totally not out of the question
 

dc89

Member
Without reading the thread to see proposed replacements I am personally struggling to think of an actor that makes me go 'damn, he'd make a good Batman.'
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Batman has been recast multiple times and has even been recast in the same movie continuity before, so recasting Ben if they want to part ways is totally not out of the question

Of course it's not out of the question, but recasting goddamn Batman almost out of the gate is kinda bonkers.
 
Gyllenhaal is not a strong enough box office draw. His movies are mostly off season releases that do...ok. If they're going with a lesser star, they have a wide variety of choices.
 
What character would 6'5" Arnie Hammer be playing in your scenario?

Grayson seems like the most natural fit if you're talking about handing over the cowl to an apprentice.

Hammer was paling around with Joe at the end of last year when The Batman was still on schedule to begin filming this past April -- I still believe he's already been cast in an unknown role that would have appeared in that film. Warner Bros was fine with him being Batman in the failed Miller Justice League film. He has the size and physical presence to replace Affleck who is a similar size. He's younger and comes at a reduced rate. He's in the Warner Bros stable of talent.
 
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