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Dunkirk |OT| You can practically see it from here...home.

JimiNutz

Banned
Tom Hardy's great, and the aerial timeline is the standout. Zimmer's score crushes once again.

Not super hot on it overall though. Technically impressive but cold. Couldn't find much to engage with in the characters or the events. Almost everyone in the film is kind of a prick, actually, especially on the infantry side, which undermines the courage on display by the remaining handful in helping make the whole evacuation happen. I didn't really care whether any of the British infantry made it home, and they may as well have been the antagonists, which seemed like a strange narrative decision.

I think that was what was missing for me. War films usually make me feel emotional but due to there being no real protagonist in this and no really likeable characters I felt like I was watching for the spectacle alone.

Closest thing to a real 'hero' was Hardy's character...who doesn't really say anything.
 

JB1981

Member
The IMAX frame combined with Nolan's "clinical" style gave this a kind of hyper-real, almost virtual reality feel. I think, on the one hand, this approach is very effective at making you feel "there" but simultaneously it seems to have this kind of distancing quality wherein you are observing everything from a remove and not getting that visceral kick some other more gritty war movies give you.

The dogfights were stunning to watch unfold. Everything done in-camera, no garbage CGI, real world props. The technical craft was impeccable.
 
This movie felt to me like Gravity or The Revenant where its an "experience" with lots of great moments and a not so solid core, caring far more for the portrayal then a story or characters.

I liked it though, just disappointed.
 
I just mentioned it in the other thread, but the lack of an R rating still hurt the immersion in this for me.

Took me right out of the beach bombing scene which was otherwise spectacular. The aftermath of some men getting up while others don't, wondering who is and isn't alive, I immediately felt like I was watching actors and extras, rather than being transported to that horror. It turned something horrifically visceral into something that felt completely fake and pretend.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
I just mentioned it in the other thread, but the lack of an R rating still hurt the immersion in this for me.

Took me right out of the beach bombing scene which was otherwise spectacular. The aftermath of some men getting up while others don't, wondering who is and isn't alive, I immediately felt like I was watching actors and extras, rather than being transported to that horror. It turned something horrifically visceral into something that felt completely fake and pretend.

Exactly. It's, at least for me, going to be really hard to head back to the bloodless or clean violence of war films pre-Saving Private Ryan with Dunkirk. Especially right in the beginning of the film.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
I just mentioned it in the other thread, but the lack of an R rating still hurt the immersion in this for me.

Took me right out of the beach bombing scene which was otherwise spectacular. The aftermath of some men getting up while others don't, wondering who is and isn't alive, I immediately felt like I was watching actors and extras, rather than being transported to that horror. It turned something horrifically visceral into something that felt completely fake and pretend.

Double Toasted brought it up too in their review. Compared it to
Storm Troopers and Robot Chicken
 

Wollan

Member
Just came back from an IMAX showing.

Scale feels practically unmatched with everything being filmed in real locations and from three very different vantage points with their timelines weaving together.

Feels great seeing a film where everything displayed is genuine (to the eye at last, miniatures and likely subtle cg effects to populate/remove some scenery). Camera vibrating in the pilot seat, pressing through tight crowds of soldiers etc.

It's a movie that won't be as good the second time around, at least not on a regular screen but I'm very glad it's made like it was.

The various weather conditions of the beach, the scale of the sea, the sun scorching the pilot seats... loved it.
 

Mimosa97

Member
I think euros will find it easier to appreciate this movie because americans are used to watching the history of WWII centered around their own army where it's pretty much always the same scenario " Valiant american warriors storm the beaches to save Europe and save the World " so yeah you're used to the emotional and adrenaline rush but you won't find any in Dunkirk.

This movie portrays to perfection the almost " banality " of war. How much war is just a waste of life and how much of it is just people scrambling and improvising to stay alive. I think this movie will be very powerful for the history buffs or those who had family who fought in the battle of France.
 

Lifeline

Member
Went in with high hopes, but man what a disappointing movie. Watched it in IMAX and the visuals and the audio were incredible, but everything else not so much.

The biggest problem was they made the British accent more difficult to understand than Banes accent from TDKR. I watch a lot of British TV and this movie was the hardest time I've had understanding what people were saying.

The different timelines thing made the whole thing even more confusing than it needed to be.

And like the negative reviews already said there was no emotional core. No character to root for. Everything was just kinda happening. While the scenes were cool, it was hard to care who died and lived.

For a better recent war movie, Hacksaw Ridge is still the best I've seen in a long time. The movie got a lot right, including how to end a war movie.

Hacksaw > Dunkirk

This movie felt to me like Gravity or The Revenant where its an "experience" with lots of great moments and a not so solid core, caring far more for the portrayal then a story or characters.

I liked it though, just disappointed.

Yeah, same thoughts from me. Very cool experience though.
 

JB1981

Member
Disagree. Movie was way better than the portentous Revenant. And I couldn't even get through the first 30 minutes of Hacksaw Ridge that's how hackneyed that movie was
 
I loved it, this is definitely a movie that I'm happy I saw in IMAX. You can tell just how ambitious Nolan was in making this movie. I can't wait to add Dunkirk to my collection. My only complaint is that it wasn't rated R but I fine with that since the intensity/experience was on point.
 

rashbeep

Banned
For a better recent war movie, Hacksaw Ridge is still the best I've seen in a long time. The movie got a lot right, including how to end a war movie.

Hacksaw > Dunkirk

seeing dunkirk on sunday so can't compare, but hacksaw was so damn cheesy for me. i couldn't take a lot of it seriously.
 

frontovik

Banned
Some of the soldiers were quite stupid in the film..

That one fellow trying to shoot a fighter plane with his rifle while directly under bombing range of a StuKa dive bomber. He even had ample time to move away.

Several soldiers trying to plug gaps in the ship with their bare hands while knowingly under fire.
 
Just got back from seeing it. Dunkirk is a true masterpiece, like WOW. My heart is still pounding fast. The sound design for the movie is insane and the soundtrack is amazing. Thank god this movie wasn't Rated R lol. The movie was pretty frightening on its own. This is a movie that deserves to be seen on the big screen. I was getting chills when those German planes started coming down to attack.

First Oscar worthy movie so far. I want to see this again.
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Some of the soldiers were quite stupid in the film..

That one fellow trying to shoot a fighter plane with his rifle while directly under bombing range of a StuKa dive bomber. He even had ample time to move away.

Several soldiers trying to plug gaps in the ship with their bare hands while knowingly under fire.
Stupid or desperate?
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Disagree. Movie was way better than the portentous Revenant. And I couldn't even get through the first 30 minutes of Hacksaw Ridge that's how hackneyed that movie was
Agreed on revenant. But go back and skip to when they get to hawksaw. Best war scenes since spr and thin red line. Mel Gibson is a hod at depicting gory violence.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Some of the soldiers were quite stupid in the film..

That one fellow trying to shoot a fighter plane with his rifle while directly under bombing range of a StuKa dive bomber. He even had ample time to move away.

Several soldiers trying to plug gaps in the ship with their bare hands while knowingly under fire.
In battlefield 1 you can shoot down planes using infantry weapons. Planes weren't super armored back then.
 

Lifeline

Member
People like typical cliche that's well done.

Comparing Ridge with this doesn't even make sense.

I rather have a cliched plot than a minimum to none plot. Also what about this movie wasn't a cliche

heroic pilot going back even though his gas was low

Heroic dad going on even after his kid was injured

That one paranoid dick in the group of survivors that tries to get a good guy killed

The captain that decides to stay behind, closing the door after everyone else is through.

Like that's every disaster movie/war movie shit
 

Choabac

Member
The proganda flyers reminded me of the opening credits from Dad's Army

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Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler,
If you think we're on the run?
We are the boys who will stop your little game.
We are the boys who will make you think again.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
As a self proclaimed Nolan fanboy, who has either loved or thought all his movies were great, I gotta say that this one was kinda disappointing. I was bored in a lot of spots, and while I thought the third act was pretty decent, I started to lose track of the timelines a bit.

Oh well.
 
As a self proclaimed Nolan fanboy, who has either loved or thought all his movies were great, I gotta say that this one was kinda disappointing. I was bored in a lot of spots, and while I thought the third act was pretty decent, I started to lose track of the timelines a bit.

Oh well.
I'm in your exact same shoes. First disappointing Nolan film that I've seen.
 
The word "masterpiece" has long since been robbed of its meaning and now joins the ranks of "awesome" and "great" as critical similes to substitute for the word "good".
 

mcfrank

Member
Liked it quite a bit, but I also see where the complaints are coming from. Not sure why so many of you had trouble with the dialog, seemed totally understandable to me.
I also like the use of a different narrative structure which focuses on emotional beats rather than chronology. It didn't feel gimmicky to me, just like we were being told a story and then having the gaps filled in by other perspectives.
 

JB1981

Member
So Nolan has developed a kind of trademark by ending all his recent films with a similar montage-y denouement huh?
 
So Nolan has developed a kind of trademark by ending all his recent films with a similar montage-y denouement huh?
This film as a whole actually seems to me like Nolan trying to extend his affinity for climaxing narrative threads to a feature-length experiment, with each snippet driving the emotional momentum of the one that precedes it, exactly like his ending montages.
 

Docpan

Member
Complete and utter disappointment. Massive Chris Nolan fan and I always plop my money down for his movies without needing reviews.

My feelings are that Nolan has become more about the spectacle than the storytelling. Thrilling practical effects with perfectly framed shots timed to an epic score are nothing without the backbone of a story to carry us through.

Films have a 3 act structure for a reason. Dunkirk seems like a film that brings us right into the thick of the tension without any ramp up phase. This sounds awesome as I type it out, but in practicality it doesn't succeed. I don't know who the characters are. I dont (really) know their story. And the frantic jumps between characters is something that really should be reserved for the third act of films ONLY.
 
Well after the derision directed at jeremy jahns for saying that (for him) he found it hard to care about the fate of the mostly similar characters, it turns out that (for the people who are disappointed) this issue is exactly the weak aspect of Dunkirk. For some this won't matter or will be a strength, for others it will be the drawback. Both opposing views can be right at the same time.
 

Boogie9IGN

Member
Watched it in 70mm today after work. Loved it except for the fact that the projector failed twice during the showing (everyone was given a free ticket to make up for it).

Felt super tense throughout almost the whole movie, especially at some of the more frantic water scenes. The sounds from the German planes reminded me of real-life TIE fighters and goddamn did they sound terrifying.

Also agree that I couldn't really understand half of what was said :\ Probably gonna go watch it again on $6 Tuesday
 

norm9

Member
Liked it more than I thought I would. The narrative timeline was unnecessary but I guess I understand why he did it the way he did.

As to some previous debating earlier, Hacksaw Ridge was better as a bio film, but thism ovie was very good too. Something felt off though, or maybe that was the point.
 

Miyahon

Member
I have a choice between IMAX and the 70mm version. Even though it's a traditional IMAX screen it's not listed as a 70mm IMAX location. So I'm assuming it will be showing the IMAX Xenon version listed at the Dunkirk website. Anyone think the 70mm version would be better vs the IMAX Xenon version?
 
I have a choice between IMAX and the 70mm version. Even though it's a traditional IMAX screen it's not listed as a 70mm IMAX location. So I'm assuming it will be showing the IMAX Xenon version listed at the Dunkirk website. Anyone think the 70mm version would be better vs the IMAX Xenon version?

70mm >>> LieMax

What are the ticket prices?
 

Dyl

Member
Movie was okay... There were some really good action shots and the soundtrack was great, but I could not bring myself to care about the characters or story whatsoever. Weakest movie I've seen this summer and certainly the weakest I've seen from Nolan in general.
 

Toothless

Member
Dunkirk is quietly Nolan's most ambitious film yet. Brilliantly blending his modern style with old-school filmmaking of the war epic, he breathes new life into his quirks that were beginning to feel old hat. Nolan avoids the pitfalls that have plagued his most recent works and delivers a harrowing experience quite unlike any contemporary war films or any of Nolan's other films. Keep in mind, this is clearly a Nolan film; his idiosyncrasies are evident in nearly every frame. By shifting away from self-important characters and pompous monologue, his cryptic characters finally come off as truly human, no matter how small their role is. More importantly, the setpieces are simultaneously horrifying and enthralling, taking audiences on a journey through war.

The IMAX cinematography is utterly stunning, and the sound in it makes it feel like planes are actually flying above or shots are firing right behind you. It has a similar issue to Interstellar that sometimes the mix prevents one from hearing the dialogue, but this aspect fits the disorienting nature of war Nolan is trying to capture. When it comes down to it, seeing this film in IMAX should be one's top priority, as it utilizes the format better than any other film I've seen.

The acting ranges from servicable to excellent, but the actors are not the star of the film here; it's the direction. No one stands out as bad, and when trying to pick a highlight, it proves impossible with how even-handed it all is. If one had to find a complaint with the entire enterprise, it's the land segments are slightly less engaging than the sea and air segments, but those segments are still exciting in their own right. The score by Zimmer is also good, but doesn't stand out as much as they have in Nolan's past works.

Dunkirk is easily Nolan's best film in nine years, with his ambition finally being accomplished in nearly every way. It's a stunning achievement; a brutal assault on the senses that puts audiences right into World War II and how petrifying it was. One can hope Nolan will continue with this type of "experience" film with his upcoming projects, but if he doesn't, Dunkirk will still exist as the best war films and best summer blockbusters in years. A larger achievement than almost anyone could've expected, and one that I cannot wait to revisit as soon as possible.
 

ryan299

Member
Thought it was fantastic.

There were a few moment where I found the dialogue hard to understand, but it wasn't bad.

Hardy's capture at the end was lame. He could've set down or bailed on the beach
 

ATF487

Member
except for 2 moments in Interstellar what else is there?

I think it's becoming a meme.

I had a hard time with TDKR in theatres, as well as parts of Interstellar, and most of the dialog in this.

Didn't bother me THAT much (I didn't expect complex character development, and enjoyed how minimalist it was) but it was a bit distracting. I get the idea of muffled conversation during loud, intense scenes but sometimes it just sounds like a bad mix

Good film on the whole though, really enjoyed it.
 
Just got back from the theater. They weren't kidding this is the real deal. I'm glad this was only an hour & 45 minutes because otherwise I may have felt pure dread just like the soldiers.

One thing I really appreciated about it was the lack of a main character. For some people that may seem off-putting, but I thought it worked well in the films narrative.

I'll be writing a full review for a site soon enough, so you may be able to read my opinion in full BTW.
 

Arc

Member
Technical marvel. Some of the plane shots were breathtaking.

Though I wish they spent a little more time on the actual rescue mission part. All the boats kind of just show up.
 

Livingskeletons

If I pulled that off, would you die?
Saw it.

I think the Gravity comparison is pretty apt.

Might be the loudest movie I've seen in theater. My seat was shaking during the bombing scenes.
Aerial combat was also a standout.


Definitely a movie that needs to be watched in the cinema.
Would be hard to replicate the experience even with a decent sound setup.
 
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