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Dunkirk |OT| You can practically see it from here...home.

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True Savior

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DMczaf said:
After Dunkirk, I really do want to see a Hardy/Nolan Bond trilogy

Probably will never happen though
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Yes, but no trilogy. That would basically take 8 years of Nolan's career. A one-off movie to relaunch the brand.

Also, he said recently he had a huge hard on for Blade Runner so I'm expecting a sort of cyberpunk in the future.

Jaraghan said:
I must have missed this. Where was he?
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Voice of the third pilot.
 
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Dr.Acula

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Ashhong said:
IIRC, while his power was out, Hardy was able to do a u-turn to hit that last guy.
But like I said, going to not think about it too much haha
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I'm of the impression that he had enough altitude to make that last turn, but one he lined up that last guy it committed him to his line.
 
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Incandenza

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Yeah... count me as one of those people that just doesn't get it. It's a loud, beautiful movie that's just totally empty, which for me made it hard to feel the intensity.
 
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RustyNails

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Just got back from the showing. Wow what an experience. My ears are still ringing. This movie is basically "No chill: the war movie"
 
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zsynqx

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Love how understated the whole thing felt. Very British. :)

Only thing I wasn't really a fan of were some of the lines given to Kenneth Brannagh's character; anything involving the word 'home' basically. Felt Nolan did well at avoiding that kinda stuff, so when dialogue like that showed up it felt pretty awkward and jarring.

Anyway, return to form after his past two films.
 
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TheDarkKnight774

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Loved the movie. And one aspect I didn't expect but loved was
the shifting of time between the three plots. It really was rewarding when it all came together in the end
 
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Luigi87

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That was an incredible film. Really intense.
I loved that
aside from the last scene with the pilot near the end, you never see enemy soldiers, excluding the planes.
 
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RustyNails

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TheDarkKnight774 said:
Loved the movie. And one aspect I didn't expect but loved was
the shifting of time between the three plots. It really was rewarding when it all came together in the end
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Yes, felt very memento which is amazing.

I'm probably not the first to notice this but I love how Nolan basically tries to fuck with the concept of time in his movies. Memento, Interstellar, Inception and Dunkirk. Prestige had a bit about it too. Batman movies not so much.
 
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Primethius

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DecoReturns said:
Anybody feel for the
French dude. Just a scared dude trying to survive. Also Nolan did have a twist, in a wat lol
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I really felt for him, the saddest part of the entire movie for me.
An unceremonious death and forgotten so quickly, it was a real effective way to communicate the large-scale aspect of war.

Probably my favorite bit about this movie. The lack of story and identifiable characters sold the brutality of war effectively.
 
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Vault Dweller 111

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Going back to see it again now because a friend is in town. No IMAX though, we'll see how much difference it makes.


Still have $5 IMAX tickets for Tuesday too. Don't remember the last movie I saw a movie three times in theaters.
 
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TheDarkKnight774

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Primethius said:
I really felt for him, the saddest part of the entire movie for me.
An unceremonious death and forgotten so quickly, it was a real effective way to communicate the large-scale aspect of war.

Probably my favorite bit about this movie. The lack of story and identifiable characters sold the brutality of war effectively.
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Yea. I think it helps put you in their state of mind. Where death is so matter of fact and people are just so closed off from really feeling anything due to all the horrors they've scene up to that point
 
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True Savior

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RustyNails said:
Yes, felt very memento which is amazing.

I'm probably not the first to notice this but I love how Nolan basically tries to fuck with the concept of time in his movies. Memento, Interstellar, Inception and Dunkirk. Prestige had a bit about it too. Batman movies not so much.
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I would say Prestige actually has the most intricate structure of them all, and he does indeed play with time a lot in it. It's basically a diary embedded in a diary, being read by unreliable narrators with recollections and flashbacks within flashbacks while he intercuts between them. It's extremely meticulous.
 
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Guzim

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Luigi87 said:
That was an incredible film. Really intense.
I loved that
aside from the last scene with the pilot near the end, you never see enemy soldiers, excluding the planes.
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Even then, you don't even see their faces. I liked that a lot.
 
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KingofGourds

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Well, I had to walk out of this one about halfway through. My girlfriend started getting a headache early on because of the noise-level, and it just kept getting worse and worse to the point I didn't wanna put her through it any more.

To be honest I found it pretty overdone myself. The soundmix plus that Zimmer score purpose made to make you feel ill-at-ease all worked a bit too well. Couldn't get into it at all, and the dry as bones, weirdly detached nature of the drama didn't give me much reason to cry about having to leave...

Puts me in the (vast) minority of course, but oh well.
 
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whytemyke

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KingofGourds said:
Well, I had to walk out of this one about halfway through. My girlfriend started getting a headache early on because of the noise-level, and it just kept getting worse and worse to the point I didn't wanna put her through it any more.

To be honest I found it pretty overdone myself. The soundmix plus that Zimmer score purpose made to make you feel ill-at-ease all worked a bit too well. Couldn't get into it at all, and the dry as bones, weirdly detached nature of the drama didn't give me much reason to cry about having to leave...

Puts me in the (vast) minority of course, but oh well.
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I really wonder if the sound issues are related to the individual theaters not calibrating correctly. I had a couple parts of dialogue where it was all muffled and I can't imagine Nolan overlooking that on the cut he sends out. As opposed to a 17 year old working at a movie theater who was told to crank the bass to 12 in order to drown out the Transformers playing in the theater in the next room over.
 
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ChoklitReign

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TFW I bought tickets for a xenon IMAX theater when the city has one 70mm theater available because of a "convenient" location and ignorance:

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And it still cost $16 and I still have to drive 2 hours for it! Please bookmark this site so you don't make my mistake: http://www.lfexaminer.com/theausa.htm
 
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Jyester

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Didn't dig it all that much. It was beautifully shot, but on an emotional level it did nothing for me. It felt overly dry to me. Ace pilot/blank slate Tom Hardy taking out everyone became boring. "Home" was too on the nose.

The movie is well-made, but the moments were I actually felt involved were few and far between.

FWIW, I love Interstellar.
 
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jtb

Banned
whytemyke said:
I really wonder if the sound issues are related to the individual theaters not calibrating correctly. I had a couple parts of dialogue where it was all muffled and I can't imagine Nolan overlooking that on the cut he sends out. As opposed to a 17 year old working at a movie theater who was told to crank the bass to 12 in order to drown out the Transformers playing in the theater in the next room over.
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Didn't Nolan say that the Interstellar garbled dialogue was 'intentional' to replicate old NASA recordings? Wouldn't be surprised if it was the same for Dunkirk.
 
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Skiptastic

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zsynqx said:
"Well done"
"All we did was survive"
"That's enough"

Love it.
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I loved that too. That's Nolan's uncle Jonathan Nolan as that dude.

I also love that the other dude didn't stay awake to tell Harry Styles he was blind after he was like "He couldn't even look us in the eyes." I'd normally expect a head shake or a "He's blind you daft fool" but just got nothing but sleep.
 
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Jibbajabbawockky

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ChoklitReign said:
TFW I bought tickets for a xenon IMAX theater when the city has one 70mm theater available because of a "convenient" location and ignorance:


And it still cost $16 and I still have to drive 2 hours for it! Please bookmark this site so you don't make my mistake: http://www.lfexaminer.com/theausa.htm
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Yeah, that site is pretty good.

After some digging I figured out that the IMAX I went to and saw in regular IMAX digital still has their film 70mm IMAX projector but since the last time they used it was for Interstellar, they just opted not to get it out for Dunkirk since they had to do a bunch of repairs for it back then and get a special projectionist for those screenings and I guess it was seen as too expensive to do the same for Dunkirk this time around, coupled with how its been even longer of a gap between Interstellar and Dunkirk than it was TDKR and Interstellar.

Sucks cause I would love to see this in 70mm IMAX but the closest real 70mm IMAX to me is about 4 hours (and a country border crossing) away.
 
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ogbg

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DecoReturns said:
Anybody feel for the
French dude. Just a scared dude trying to survive. Also Nolan did have a twist, in a wat lol
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Shit yeah. Not just trying to survive but
saving everyone from drowning during the capsize. Harry Styles is a total dick confirmed
 
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TheXbox

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I feared for my life when the German planes started harassing the soldiers on the beach. This is Nolan's best, by far.
 
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nOoblet16

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Wait what do you guys mean the movie isn't in sequence ? I must've been blind because I did not notice it. Can anyone give me an example of a scene?
 
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jtb

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nOoblet16 said:
Wait what do you guys mean the movie isn't in sequence ? I must've been blind because I did not notice it. Can anyone give me an example of a scene?
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Each timeline takes place over the allotted time denoted at the beginning.

The film doubles back on the non-Hardy fighter pilot. You see Hardy waving goodbye to him, then the film doubles back on him a half hour later showing Rylance picking him up. That's the most prominent example anyways.
 
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jtb

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That 'diagram' doesn't even diagram anything that the film doesn't explicitly tell you in the first five minutes.

The film is simple, and easy to understand, and that's fine. Good, even.

Complexity solely for complexity's sake is masturbation.
 
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Totakeke

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So I've watched the movie twice, first in a standard 70mm film theater, and the second time in the Lincoln Square 70mm IMAX.

I enjoyed the movie the first time, the sound mix wasn't greatest, and I was a bit distracted trying to piece together the three timelines, not realizing they diverge post convergence. It was a really good movie but definitely wasn't top of my Nolan list.

The second time I watched it, it was no question that Dunkirk at least ties with The Prestige with the top spot for me. Even from the very first scene, the intensity of the movie easily racheted up many levels above the first time. It feels weird to say this, but this is also the most emotionally moving Nolan movie to me even though it doesn't dramatize the characters for you. The constant climax throughout the film makes every single situation and action much more piercing given that I already know how that affects their fate, especially the tragic ones, in the end.

Dunkirk really needs to be experienced in its purest form, but that also means I'm not sure how it holds up as well after it stops showing in theaters. I agree with all the hyperbole from the initial reviews, but I also think that the later criticisms make sense especially if the person wasn't able to watch Dunkirk in a setting that attempts to envelop them. If someone watches this in a regular theater and the movie feels like just another movie without the standard dramatic hooks, then yeah, it can feel lacking.
 
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Vaga

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Just came back from IMAX and fuck, this movie did not help my tinnitus at all. Ridiculously loud that at one point I wanted to cover my ears in pain. Dunno if it was the theatre fault or the actual movie itself but fuck whoever decided to amplify the bangs that way.

Regarding the movie I came back extremely dissapointed, it didn't felt like a Nolan movie to me except maybe the grandiose filming quality. Devoid of character development and the dialogues were so meh. I didn't mind the Memento style editing but it wasn't as impactful and rewarding as I expected. The film basically lacks 'punch', felt very bland even in what was meant to be war action shots. I'll probably watch it again at home but I feel no reason to go back to cinema again. And this is coming from someone who hates going to the movies but went back to see Interstellar 3 times at IMAX. That movie was fucking glorious, sadly Dunkirk is nowhere near it.

I absolutely hated the editing of dogfighting scenes
, with the constant shots of Hardy's masked face as he pulled the trigger. Also many things Nolan didn't get right regarding aerial combat. Very dissapointed as I love everything WW2 air combat. The Stukas bombing runs I enjoyed though my ears did not.
 
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Higgy

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So the movie time on Flixster was the wrong start rime. When we walked in it was the scene where they were taking the injured soldier on the stretcher through the soilders on the dock. Anyone know how much of the movie we missed?
 
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robotrock

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Higgy said:
So the movie time on Flixster was the wrong start rime. When we walked in it was the scene where they were taking the injured soldier on the stretcher through the soilders on the dock. Anyone know how much of the movie we missed?
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You missed maybe ten minutes?

A very good ten minutes tbh but only ten
 
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Plumbob

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Higgy said:
So the movie time on Flixster was the wrong start rime. When we walked in it was the scene where they were taking the injured soldier on the stretcher through the soilders on the dock. Anyone know how much of the movie we missed?
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First 20 min
 
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TheGameshark

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nOoblet16 said:
Wait what do you guys mean the movie isn't in sequence ? I must've been blind because I did not notice it. Can anyone give me an example of a scene?
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The movie cuts backward and forward depending on the point of view. One example I can think of is the RAF pilot who crashed earlier in the movie. Tom hardy's character thinks he's waving he's ok to him but we later see that same pilot go down to find out he was struggling to get out of his plane. Also the ship that capsizes and leaks all that oil at end is seen getting sunk by the bomber much earlier in the movie from Tom hardy's perspective.
 
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lastplayed

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nOoblet16 said:
Wait what do you guys mean the movie isn't in sequence ? I must've been blind because I did not notice it. Can anyone give me an example of a scene?
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The movie often switched between the soldiers on the sinking ship at night, to the fighters and boats during the day. Didn't you notice that?
 
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DecoReturns

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Lol. Wish I could post a link, but Nolan said Murphy asked him if he had to wear bag over his head when he called him about appearing in Dunkirk.

Edit: interview with Peter travers I believe
 
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Vault Dweller 111

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Vault Dweller 111 said:
Going back to see it again now because a friend is in town. No IMAX though, we'll see how much difference it makes.


Still have $5 IMAX tickets for Tuesday too. Don't remember the last movie I saw a movie three times in theaters.
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Still awesome. Definitely holds up on rewatch, was easily able to follow the timelines (not that it was super hard the first time.)

Man when all the timelines sync up and the soundtrack is blasting. Amazing. Such a great movie.
 
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JohnMatrix

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I can't fault the movie, Nolan has done another excellent job and I'm a huge fan of his, but Dunkirk really wasn't my cup of tea, to me it was just planes bombing boats for an hour and a half with little plot or characters
 
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