darkwing-buck
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Yes, from a film-making standpoint it was pretty beautiful with the lighting and framing. The music added a lot of flair as well.
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Yes, from a film-making standpoint it was pretty beautiful with the lighting and framing. The music added a lot of flair as well.
Merchandise
Member
Got back from seeing it a second time.
1. Tons of dialogue is still unintelligible, particularly in a lot of the opening scenes, but throughout the movie as well.
2. For 400,000 people being on the beach it really does look quite empty.
3. For 900 civilian boats, the water really does look quite empty.
Still great tho. Obsessed with the score, which I noticed more this time around because I've been listening to it all day beforehand. The converging timelines thing is still rad, though the mole being one week long does throw things off a bit, as if Branagh had been standing there for seven whole days, lol.
1. Tons of dialogue is still unintelligible, particularly in a lot of the opening scenes, but throughout the movie as well.
2. For 400,000 people being on the beach it really does look quite empty.
3. For 900 civilian boats, the water really does look quite empty.
Still great tho. Obsessed with the score, which I noticed more this time around because I've been listening to it all day beforehand. The converging timelines thing is still rad, though the mole being one week long does throw things off a bit, as if Branagh had been standing there for seven whole days, lol.
brickarts295
Member
Just saw it. Excellent film, I love how minimalist and silent it felt. Cinematography and Music is A+ and the performance were quite good. Absolutely love the use of IMAX footage in this one, definetly my favorite IMAX film by far. My only issues was length (maybe a tad too short, but I think it was fine) and the sound mixing (probably the theaters fault but the Bass was crazy high in this one).
Next Year is Nolan's year...
Next Year is Nolan's year...
True Savior
Member
Nice recent interview with him
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-dunkirk-nolan-movies-tv-20170724-story.html
I really love how he makes such a meticulous movie and classifies it as entertainment.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-dunkirk-nolan-movies-tv-20170724-story.html
I really love how he makes such a meticulous movie and classifies it as entertainment.
Dunkirk is much better entertainment than it is war film, and I think Nolan is right to classify it that way. Good for him.
Will probably kill its Oscar chances, but that's okay because the film isn't really up to that standard anyways. The Oscars suck and Nolan hasn't made an Oscar-worthy film yet.
Will probably kill its Oscar chances, but that's okay because the film isn't really up to that standard anyways. The Oscars suck and Nolan hasn't made an Oscar-worthy film yet.
Just saw it, thought it was ok. Lots of good to great stuff but the slow scenes just killed any semblance of pacing for me. The lack of blood was really off putting, not sure why it had to be PG-13. Also for there being 400,000 troops in Dunkirk the beach scenes looked like a typical fire drill at my high school. Not enough cardboard to go around i guess.
StrongBelwas
Banned
Not enough blood?.. you must be American.
Just weird seeing bodies face down on a pristine beach. Guess they were just sleeping.
StrongBelwas
Banned
Not really. Seeing bodies of poor British soldiers trapped on a beach being shot at like fish in a barrel was pretty haunting to me. Must have been absolutely terrifying. But you're right would have been much better if some guy had been looking for his arm on the beach.
Oh ok my so imagination was supposed to CG in the blood. Thank you Lord Nolan for simultaneously saving children from depictions of war and igniting my creative spirit at the same time. Bless.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
If you guys want a fucking great depiction of Dunkirk, you needn't look further than Joe Wright's Atonement.
https://youtu.be/y0de2hZ3dsA
https://youtu.be/y0de2hZ3dsA
StrongBelwas
Banned
Why do you need blood? It's clearly a fucked up situation where every time a plane passes over all the soldiers can do is hit the deck and hope they don't get blown up. I don't need to see them actually blown to bits to know how sure the situation is. Why do You?
Dario Marianelli is a god
Because there's blood when someone gets blown up by a bomb, or shot at, or hit by shrapnel, etc. You don't get to pick and choose what you see in war once you 'get the point.'
I go to the movies for a visual and auditory experience. I'm not there closing my eyes and putting myself into the shoes of a soldier on the beach in the middle of the viewing experience. If i wanted that I would read a book or watch it at home where I could pause the movie at my leisure to sit quietly contemplative about what just happened and how the guy next to the guy that got blown up must have felt at that exact moment. Anything that pulls me out of the movie experience is a negative for me and when realistically horrible war stuff happens I expect to see a realistically horrible war aftermath depicted to a degree at least. Feel free to disagree.
I thought Atonement was pretty good actually!
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
The blood for a lot of people I think just represents their desire to stay immersed in the experience the filmmaker is trying to engulf them in. There's no doubt Nolan is one of these filmmakers, given his insistence on using the IMAX format to a degree nobody else making features these days is.
So the lack of blood is something that jarrs viewing out of their state of immersion and reminds them that all they're witnessing is a bunch of extras being told to either stay down or stand back up. Given Nolan's labors to do everything he can to immerse his audience in the experience, it's a shame that it's the thought of box office performance that keeps him from being able to go all the way.
So the lack of blood is something that jarrs viewing out of their state of immersion and reminds them that all they're witnessing is a bunch of extras being told to either stay down or stand back up. Given Nolan's labors to do everything he can to immerse his audience in the experience, it's a shame that it's the thought of box office performance that keeps him from being able to go all the way.
You and everybody else. Movie is great.
methinks you didn't get the time sequence of things if you're saying this is an editing problem.
I actually kind of wonder if Nolan didn't make the movie R because he wanted it to be shown in British classrooms till the end of time.
That Atonement clip reminded me that the buildings in Nolan's Dunkirk along the beach didn't seem to have sustained any damage at all which was also strange to me visually for a city under siege. Also I feel like no one i know has actually watched Atonement even though I tried to hype it up a bit at the time lol.
Hexxen-Panda
Member
It's impressive that my local 70mm IMAX will be playing this everyday for the entire month of August, concurrent with a couple of IMAX documentaries playing in between showtimes.
Props to the projector guys. I saw a video of them loading up the film reel for Interstellar and it was massive.
Props to the projector guys. I saw a video of them loading up the film reel for Interstellar and it was massive.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Dunno about British classrooms, but never stopped Schindler's List from being shown in school here in Aus.
Razorback
Member
Just got back. Haven't read much of the thread but from the last page I get a sense there's a debate over the lack of blood in the movie.
I have to say it definitely made it feel like a lot of bark and no bite. I was mostly just scared of sudden loud noises. During Saving Private Ryan my list of fears ran much deeper than that.
I have to say it definitely made it feel like a lot of bark and no bite. I was mostly just scared of sudden loud noises. During Saving Private Ryan my list of fears ran much deeper than that.
How so?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Houses don't have souls unless you have a Poltergeist.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Wow. So deep. Awesome Rotten Tomatoes review blurb.
I didn't care for almost anybody in film. I appreciate what he tried to do but it didn't work for me at all.
Now that's a movie!
I wasn't going for deep but it's at the same depth as the storytelling in Dunkirk.
What would have made you care for the characters?
Vault Dweller 111
Member
I've seen it three times and it definitely holds up. Especially if you're upgrading to IMAX.
Very Berry Sunday
Member
Really, everyday for the month? I do plan to watch again in a month. I wanted to watch in IMAX 70mm, but I'm not sure how long my theatre will play this in IMAX 70mm.
Seats here are selling out.
I would've like the characters to have more then one character vague trait, that would've been a nice start. The Dawsons are the only characters I had some interest in and I felt their journey was by far the most interesting part of the movie, despite
the ridiculous soap opera development of the kid falling down in the boat and going blind and dying
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Deleted member 22576
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Wow!
Just got from the 70mm IMAX screening of this. Unbelievable. Such an intense experience.
Just got from the 70mm IMAX screening of this. Unbelievable. Such an intense experience.
RBelong2Us
Member
Atonement is a bore
DecoReturns
Member
I like both.
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Deleted member 22576
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Most of the aerial stuff was practical right? They had remote control planes and drones I remember reading? It felt so fucking real!! OMG!!
jack_package_200
Banned
So after some thought, Dunkirk has replaced Logan as my favorite film of 2017
ShadowKingpin
Member
Absolutely. Seen it twice and going a third time on Thursday. I loved it even more the second time.
jack_package_200
Banned
I know its a stereotype that americans clap/cheer during crowdpleasing moments in the theater but
was probably closest I came to cheering. Shit was rad as fuck.
Tom Hardy shooting down that one plane with no fuel in the film's climax
Gnome Scat
Member
Went to an IMAX 70mm viewing tonight and got stuck in the front row... Still a great movie though.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
just got back
damn what a masterpiece.
damn what a masterpiece.
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
Saw it in IMAX 70mm. Glorious. Such a beautifully melancholic film that is lean and restrained yet powerful in its depiction of warfare and how impersonal it all is. Maybe Nolan's best. A masterpiece.
Psychoward
Banned
Just got back from an imax showing. Man, nolan's 3 most recent movies are his worst
A big step up from tdkr and better than interstellar by default just for not having that ending though
Nolan rectified one of his biggest recent problems of having cold, distant characters you don't care about by having like 5 minutes of dialog in the entire movie! And what was there was horribly mixed so it was hard to hear even during peacetime.
Also the trailer didn't "spoil" it because it was a real historical event but the trailer also gave away almost all of the dialog and pretty much every single setpiece so it was weird watching it.
The time line also jumps around a bit and it was done kind of poorly honestly. That aspect combined with a lot of repeat stuff from the trailers made the 94 runtime seem very stretched out. The dogfighting scene was also done kind of poorly imo. Don't get me wrong, it felt real and all that, but it was hard to follow. The time skipping amplified it
That being said, sound design was good and some shots were really beautiful. In terms of recent critically acclaimed war movies though I definitely preferred Hacksaw Ridge.
Spoiler questions
Edit: legitimately surprised to see this much praise for it.
My favorite drama/thriller of the year so far is still easily It Comes At Night.
And seeing the second blade runner 2049 trailer for the first time (in imax!) was almost as rewarding as Dunkirk. Villeneueve gonna put in work
A big step up from tdkr and better than interstellar by default just for not having that ending though
Nolan rectified one of his biggest recent problems of having cold, distant characters you don't care about by having like 5 minutes of dialog in the entire movie! And what was there was horribly mixed so it was hard to hear even during peacetime.
Also the trailer didn't "spoil" it because it was a real historical event but the trailer also gave away almost all of the dialog and pretty much every single setpiece so it was weird watching it.
The time line also jumps around a bit and it was done kind of poorly honestly. That aspect combined with a lot of repeat stuff from the trailers made the 94 runtime seem very stretched out. The dogfighting scene was also done kind of poorly imo. Don't get me wrong, it felt real and all that, but it was hard to follow. The time skipping amplified it
That being said, sound design was good and some shots were really beautiful. In terms of recent critically acclaimed war movies though I definitely preferred Hacksaw Ridge.
Spoiler questions
did Tom Hardy not have a chute or was his window defective like his copilot? Also when the main guy's boat is getting shot up, how did it keep getting shot at from well in the water? Who the hell was shooting at them from that range? Or was it just weird editing and they plugged up the holes pretty early on and then later had to abandon ship
Edit: legitimately surprised to see this much praise for it.
My favorite drama/thriller of the year so far is still easily It Comes At Night.
And seeing the second blade runner 2049 trailer for the first time (in imax!) was almost as rewarding as Dunkirk. Villeneueve gonna put in work
Lys Skygge
Member
I like Atonement, but you're wrong.