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Trump: Trans Soldiers now barred from the military entirely

watershed

Banned
Wow. Yet another escalation of Trump's policy of constant discrimination. I honestly didn't expect to wake up to this news today.
 
So...they are going to have to ask every active and prospective service member if they're trans now?

What a waste of time and effort just for some token discrimination to rally the fox news base
 

NewFresh

Member
So they are banking hard that half the country hates transgender people

Its a play directly at dividing us further


Goddamn Russia agents trying to get the country to consume itself with contempt and hate

I feel this is basically the R strategy at this point. It's why DeVos is going after on campus sexual assault, it's why trump is going after the trans community, sessions pumping up blue lives matter. They are issues that rile people up unlike tax reform which they know will make people lean closer to the center.

They are playing the American people like a clickbait article or your racist uncles Facebook page.
 

Ithil

Member
Can someone explain this? As an outsider I don't understand...

They gave the fake excuse of "tremendous costs", which is utter bullshit as the cost is estimated at 0.0001% of the gigantic defense budget.

Now this idiot official reveals the real reason. They want Democrats to come out against this and make pro-transgender rights a key part of their 2018 campaign, because they're banking on Rust Belt states (the ones that can and did flip the election) being bigoted against transgender people and thus voting against the Democrats. It's an attempt to divide voters to make it easier to win.

A new level of cynicism and reelection obsession, the only thing Republicans care about.

To this idiot official, I would propose a different phrasing "Republicans cost thousands of US soldiers their careers as a political stunt".
 

Slime

Banned
Can someone explain this? As an outsider I don't understand...

They want to force Democrats in states filled with bigots to say "We want transgender people in the military" during the next election.

They are using trans people as pawns to weaken the Democratic party's chances in hate-filled cesspools that went for Trump.
 

Dyle

Member
What will this "policy" be called? Don't Ask (for medical services), Don't Tell (if you're experiencing dysphoria)?
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
It's honestly shocking how many trans people I've seen who are Trump supporters, I hope they see what kind of monster they support now that it's them he's targeting.

Then again, lots of fellow Hispanic Trump supporters, too. I guess some people will never see.
 
Would the military have to pay for the medical costs of being trans?

What's the average costs?

Yes. The military has true socialized health care that's wildly uncomplicated. I miss having someone email me and say I'm due for a flu shot. Then I'd show up, flash my ID card, get the shot, and leave. No forms. No copays. While .mil providers have their issues, the cost is hard to beat.

Anyway: "cost" is weird to calculate because labor is essentially free. But I'm sure someone can link to studies.
 

Kthulhu

Member
I feel this is basically the R strategy at this point. It's why DeVos is going after on campus sexual assault, it's why trump is going after the trans community, sessions pumping up blue lives matter. They are issues that rile people up unlike tax reform which they know will make people lean closer to the center.

They are playing the American people like a clickbait article or your racist uncles Facebook page.

This ain't new. Google "the southern strategy". This has been the GOPs philosophy for the past 50 years.
 

RDreamer

Member
I don't want to be insensitive as I want to understand. What is the difference in meaning between transgendered and transgender?

This explains it.

“The consensus now seems to be that transgender is better stylistically and grammatically,” DiEdoardo says. “In the same sense, I’m an Italian-American, not an Italianed-American.” The most common objection to the word, says Serano, is that the “ed” makes it sound like “something has been done to us,” as if they weren’t the same person all along. DiEdoardo illustrates this point, hilariously, with a faux voiceover: “One day John Jones was leading a normal, middle-class American life when suddenly he was zapped with a transgender ray!”
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Can someone explain this? As an outsider I don't understand...

It's an attempt at entrapment. Believing that battleground states are so full of bigoted, racist, xenophobic fuckwits that can Dems in those states afford to speak out on the issue and lose those votes? Not that many of those voters have a shred of moral fiber to vote for anyone but an R to begin with.
 

13ruce

Banned
Would anyone actually care if he dies someday? Seriously he is one of the most shittiest human beings on earth. Sure he does not kill people etc but he does ruin peoples lives etc with his and the gops crazy decisions.

He is ruining a whole country wich was finally improving the last few decades or so.

America now literally is it's satire stereotype come true, thanks to that fucker and his gop friends.
 
reminds me of this UK investigation into gay men in the Royal Navy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B076O8-PzH4

Homosexuals can't... swim... they attract enemy radar, they attract sharks... they insist on being placed at the Captain's Table, they... get up late, they nudge people whilst they're shooting, they muck about... imagine the fear of knowing you have a gay man on board a boat, when you retire at night, you think to yourself, "God... will I wake up and find everybody dead?.

satire
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that the president just announced a certain minority group will be barred from military service... in a series of fucking Tweets.
 
So...they are going to have to ask every active and prospective service member if they're trans now?

What a waste of time

Likely going to use their medical records to weed them out.

In medical coding, Z87.890 is a Personal History of Sex Reassignment, for one. If you have a way to bulk search Tricare for accounts that have this code or ones related, then you'd have a stack of records within hours.


Thanks, I had wondered that as well.
 
F****** Hell! Enough is enough. When will americans take to the streets and stop this freaking nonsense?!
Not only the idea is ridiculous and an offense to liberty, the little POS announces this through twitter?! There's no common sense anymore, no decency, no respect.
 

Syder

Member
I don't understand how having transgender people serve in the military is costly?

...Like what? If you're going to come up with some BS legislation at least have a better reason.
 
Would anyone actually care if he dies someday? Seriously he is one of the most shittiest human beings on earth. Sure he does not kill people etc but he does ruin peoples lives etc with his and the gops crazy decisions.

He is ruining a whole country wich was finally improving the last few decades or so.

America now literally is it's satire stereotype come true.

His words, decisions, and policies have unquestionably directly led to the deaths of many people.
 
If the point actually is to make a wedge issue of it, they're just openly admitting that they're terrified of losing deep red states, at this point.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This surprises me, even from Trump.

Putting aside how you refer to trans men/women.... you want to bar them from service?

We have exited bigoted dog-whistling to pure 100% unashamed bigotry.
 
Bruh

Bruh

This reads like a poor attempt at a controversial Trump impersonation. How is this a real thing the US President just put out there.





Bruh.
 
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that the president just announced a certain minority group will be barred from military service... in a series of fucking Tweets.

I demand to know which idiot wished on the monkey's paw for the future where everyone carried a computer that was connected to the internet, not realizing it would turn everything to shit.
 

Slayven

Member
So they are banking hard that half the country hates transgender people

Its a play directly at dividing us further

Goddamn Russia agents trying to get the country to consume itself with contempt and hate

Betting on Bigotry in america?

That is one of the safest bets you can make
 
I feel this is basically the R strategy at this point. It's why DeVos is going after on campus sexual assault, it's why trump is going after the trans community, sessions pumping up blue lives matter. They are issues that rile people up unlike tax reform which they know will make people lean closer to the center.

They are playing the American people like a clickbait article or your racist uncles Facebook page.

Thats what it feels like

Shock and awe campaign meant to fire up his extremists base and thrust the country back at each others throats

Definitely intentional and very disgusting
 
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