Lightning_Roller
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Dumb motherfucker wants that wall so bad.
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Trump: Trans Soldiers now barred from the military entirely
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Dumb motherfucker wants that wall so bad.
Or they're simply complicit with racism and bigotry. Makes no real difference to me at the end of day, because minorities get fucked either way. If you voted for this man, then you got to accept the consequences that come with that choice.
He probably did vote for orange fuckhead but he's too cowardly to say it. Why else would someome go to so much length arguing about the morals of Trump voters?
Mango The Magician
Banned
I'd feel pretty bad actually. The man is a fucking idiot who should have never been let anywhere near the whitehouse. And in this hypothetical, I'd be a trump voter who didn't agree with what Trump was doing. Something that apparently shouldn't exist by Gaf logic.
"If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor."
by doing nothing you did something which you probably know on some level because you feel the need to explain yourself.
I don't know what "personal reasons" would cause someone not to vote if they had the opportunity. Is there nothing that affects you or that you care about even a little?
What a mature and adult opinion to have. Not sure why you pride yourself on such ignorance, but hey, for the lulz amiright?
rokkerkory
Member
Fuck this nutcase. How u gonna tell someone not to serve their country? Esp when you dodged the draft!
This forum really needs an honorary "Who Are You Fooling" tag.
Voting by ignorance isn't an excuse, it's just as bad as someone who voted willingly.
Would you regret voting for Trump though? Would you vote for him again next election?
I do believe that there are Trump voters that regret their decision but his base remains strong going by polling.
If you're saying we should care because they don't like one thing Trump did but would vote for him again anyway, then they don't really care. Not really.
Your use of the word "nice" reminds me of a perhaps the biggest thing I've learned over the past year:
There are a ton of people in this county who are "nice." They're pleasant to be around. Polite. Cordial.
But being "nice" is not the same as being decent. And there are a ton of people in this country who, while being outwardly "nice," are fundamentally vile and indecent to their core.
Mango The Magician
Banned
I'm stuck in a shitty position in life where simply washing a dish is a chore. So yeah, going out to sign up to vote, when I have no gas, running water, or means of transportation seems rather pointless and not worth my time.
I would not vote for trump a second time. I was ignorant of everything in the 2016 election because I simply didn't care about shit that wasn't immediately around me and the issues I was facing. Had I a better grasp on all the issues. I'd probably vote for Hillary or be it possible Bernie. That said, I was providing a potential situation in which someone could vote for Trump and not actually believe in what he stands for.
They don't exist, because those that say they are ignorant or didn't know, or it was all for the lulz are fucking bullshit liars that are too cowardly to admit their actual stance. They pretend to be fence sitters. You aren't special, you aren't an exception to the rule, you are like every other "moderate" that has come through GAF and fucked up and let their facade slip.
Well, when you mix schadenfreude and ignorance together, you're bound to get some enjoyment.
But it's the kind of enjoyment other people are going to avoid you for.
You were contemplating to vote a monster for the lolz...
Mate, you would be called an idiot and treated just as harshly regardless because you thought it would be oh so funny to screw with people's lives by electing a orange neo-fascist into the highest office in the land...
Hilarious...
The fact that you would think it would be funny despite the severity of what his presidency means pretty much says that you don't care how many lives will be harmed.
Let's say you voted for Trump but ended up disagreeing with all of his actions.
I would only forgive you if you did everything in your power to recompense for that decision. Talk is cheap.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
Yeah you ain't fooling anyone with this routine, Mango. As someone else said, girl bye.
Across the boards, the stats reflect improvement of quality of life following treatment. It's why transitioning is a medical process, not cosmetic.
Yes, this is an important reality for everyone to learn. Racism, sexism, and prejudice in general isn't about "nice" and it doesn't get addressed by simply being nicer to everyone. So many times have listened to white people tell me that all of these issues would be solved if people would just be nicer to each other. Then I have to go into this whole thing about how "nice" doesn't matter and it's about bias and systems and it's super exhausting. A lot of bigots are nice people.
Smiles and Cries
Member
props to CNN for providing really good stories
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/opinions/kristin-beck-on-trump-transgender-tweet-opinion/index.html She is deadly with that gun
the cost burden is a lie (no shit)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/transgender-military-spending/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/opinions/kristin-beck-on-trump-transgender-tweet-opinion/index.html She is deadly with that gun
the cost burden is a lie (no shit)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/transgender-military-spending/index.html
Hypothetically you wouldn't be a Trump voter who agreed with what Trump was doing, no. You'd be a fucking idiot who willfully made a dumb choice because you weren't directly targeted or didn't care enough about those who were being targeted.
Yay for you!
Sorry got lost in the conversation.
It's good to see, and I believe you are sincere. If more people regret their vote then we can get that mad man out of office.
I used to be Republican. I may have even voted for Romney, I don't remember honestly, I was still a bit right leaning at that point.
My point is, it's not about the Republican party. It's about Trump. No Republicans should be supporting this man. If Romney were president none of this would be happening.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I just don't understand the people in the poorest states that voted for Trump simply because they didn't want to vote Democrat.
That makes sense to me. But there's somehow a disconnect. My father is Mexican-American and my mother is hispanic, yet they voted for Trump. Maybe they're racists against other Mexicans. I've never seen it, but it's possible. There's an alternative explanation: somehow they are blind to what's painfully apparent to us. There's something interesting there... voting against your own rights / beliefs and simultaneously not (or refusing) to see it. I don't understand it at all. I'm not saying they should get a pass. The contributed to this, absolutely. It is, however, more complicated than hatred in their hearts.
Soooooo.... did you vote or didn't you? Better get that story straight.
Mango The Magician
Banned
For clarification, I was referring to the individual who was talking about his family on like page...26? Not Trump, I couldn't give two shits what you people call him.
I didn't. The third post of mine is responding to a hypothetical in which I did vote.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Okay, I won't call you a bigot, but I will call you one if you continue to hold this view in light of the fact that SRS is regarded as medically necessary to improve the mental health of trans people. If at this point you continue to hold that opinion, you are actively arguing the unimportance of something despite the people whose expertise is explicitly this subject disagree with you.
Seriously, I hope you don't call out anti-vaxxers, climate deniers, or people who say that gay people are mentally ill, because your argument is about as intelligent and well-founded as theirs.
Voting for Trump, even out of blind ignorance, is still a vote towards his beliefs and what his administration stands for. No ifs, ands or buts.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
The real BS of the situation is plenty want to get rid of 5.6million dollars of healthcare for transgender people yet I wonder how many are going to speak out about 41million being used for viagra.
parts of this country is so full of shit especially conservatives.
Fair enough, I didn't read.
I think that reply to me where he said he voted was hypothetical.
Anyway, I say yes if you voted for Trump you knew what he was. He spent hours upon hours talking about who he was. The media covered him like 24/7. Yet, you STILL voted for him anyway. At best you can say, well I was fine with racism, sexism, and general bigotry because of some matter that means more to me like taxes or because of buttery males. Sounds like a shitty person to me. But I hope some are coming around and how their logic was flawed.
The bolded makes clear that you see yourself on the side opposite of those that denounce Trump's bigoted acts in this thread. So you did not come in here defending someone's unpopular stance, but also your own. Why not make that clear?
Mango The Magician
Banned
So when I made this post, I was under the assumption that the military only paid for things the were either immediately life threating, as in like heart surgery, or things that would have some benefit to the ability of the person. I was only accounting for troops likewise.
And like pages ago, I realized that that was wrong and admended my statement. I still don't know everything that the military pays for, but if it's as large as many have pointed out, then it's silly to not pay for GRS.
I don't like this site as a whole. This was more me distancing myself from the entire site, then making a definitive stance in regards to my political...alignment?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Someone who wants to talk about "both sides" a greycist if you will.
A Link to the Past
Banned
That misses the point entirely. Beyond it being kind of naive to think that the military basically treats its soldiers as tools that you use until they break and get discarded once you can't bandage them up anymore, the point is that you considered a non-elective surgery to be elective. Clarify, do you consider pain to be immediately life threatening? If not, why did you use it as an example of what should be covered?
How About No
Member
Jesus Fucking CHRISTThere were 9 minutes between the first and second Trump tweet announcing this.
During that time, the Pentagon was white-knuckling it, fearing that Trump was about to announce strikes against North Korea.
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/201...was-announcing-military-action-on-north-korea
^ Scary as fuck that this is our reality, and this is how fragile our system of leadership really is.
Any argument that Trump's tweets are not official presidential statements now have to go out the window, if the fucking Pentagon has to take cues from them. So now, the people Trump blocked actually have a case!
Isn't there a chapelle stand up that is like "white people goes like LOL voted for this dude as a joke .... and then some time after "what ? he WON ? how ?" " ?
Netherscourge
Banned
Unless of course...
http://www.thewrap.com/sarah-huckabee-sanders-immediately-remove-transgender-military-ban-trump/
..he immediately discharges all Transgender military personell.
You cannot just seperate those two when the reason for your disliking GAF is its political opinions and tendencies not to tolerate bigotry in the first place.
There were 9 minutes between the first and second Trump tweet announcing this.
During that time, the Pentagon was white-knuckling it, fearing that Trump was about to announce strikes against North Korea.
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/201...was-announcing-military-action-on-north-korea
^ Scary as fuck that this is our reality, and this is how fragile our system of leadership really is.
Any argument that Trump's tweets are not official presidential statements now have to go out the window, if the fucking Pentagon has to take cues from them. So now, the people Trump blocked actually have a case!
Christ what the hell is happening in this country?
Mango The Magician
Banned
...? How is needing heart surgery on the same level as something akin to GRS or even depression treatment and what not? Maybe I wasn't clear, but I was under the MISGUIDED/IGNORANT assumption that the military only paid for things that are a immediate danger the life of the individual. Like a blown up torso or something. I understand the dysphoria sucks and it can cause you a lot of terrible mental aliments, but it's not on the same level as having your leg blown off, which is what I was assuming the military would only be willing to pay for.
I dislike Gaf for it's tendency to dogpile people, not for it's political opinions.
Honestly, you should have just said "I voted for Trump because *insert bigoted reason here*"
I would at least respect THAT somewhat. Because even considering voting for Trump "for the lulz" is such a childish and immature thought process.
Not that I think you're telling the truth. You most likely voted for Trump anyway because you're defending him so damn much. Newflash: He won't do the same for you.
I don't think he'll do it going by that apparently he did this so he could get funding for his wall and those that wanted it weren't demanding this. But as always, I expect the worst from Trump so not going to be surprised.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
"I have a shitty life" is not an excuse for knowingly making other lives shitty.
brianmcdoogle
Member
Quesation: Is there a difference between Sex Reassignment Surgery and Gender Reassignment Surgery? A Link to the Past used SRS and Mango is using GRS.
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