Right, it's a good piece of heavy armor and increases both ATK and MAG IIRC. I think it's on my "best" realm-agnostic team and even then still often makes it in otherwise since it's good defensively. Also IIRC but I think his OSB hits overall slightly harder than his SSB so that might also be a consideration over using his SSB in terms of finishing battles.
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Right, it's a good piece of heavy armor and increases both ATK and MAG IIRC. I think it's on my "best" realm-agnostic team and even then still often makes it in otherwise since it's good defensively. Also IIRC but I think his OSB hits overall slightly harder than his SSB so that might also be a consideration over using his SSB in terms of finishing battles.
TheBryanJZX90
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Ugh goddammit fucking gacha games I haven't even played this game in like a month but I got a notice that there was a lucky draw so I was thinking "well Granblue has been absolute shit to me even though it's legfest and they're giving away all kinds of free draws I haven't gotten shit, but hey Record Keeper has guaranteed 5-star items! It's so much more generous, pull there it will be fun!"
So of course I get the bare minimum of one five star and it's a dupe. Bah.
So of course I get the bare minimum of one five star and it's a dupe. Bah.
madvin_zwei
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Dupe/11. Well, least it was for the realm I wanted.
Onion's OSB is very strong actually, it's like 4200% as opposed to the standard 4000% mage OSB. It's 200% more if used as a physical as well i believe. I have Onion Slice, VoF, and this OSB, and I never use Onion Slice, but frequently use the OSB if i already have VoF up and the battle's nearing the end.
However, because of the hybrid nature of the OSB it does NOT work with the insta-cast from his bsb commands. It doesn't check to see what damage type it is until after it's cast unfortunately.
Still a nice pull, congrats.
I went 1/11, Gaffgarion's Shell. It's new at least, but still a disappointing pull.
Advocatus Diaboli
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Ignus SSB, Sazh SSB, Dupe OK SSB (Blowback).
Eh. Could be much worse. Was really hoping for some XIII synergy.
Eh. Could be much worse. Was really hoping for some XIII synergy.
Hours Left
Member
Ramza's Chant and Orlandeau's OSB. Both new. 👍👍👍
Now I have Shout, Chant, and History's Truth. Guess I should Legend Dive him now.
Now I have Shout, Chant, and History's Truth. Guess I should Legend Dive him now.
ActStriker
Member
3/11 - Desch BSB, Orlandeau BSB dupe (again), Ramza Chant dupe
Bleh
Bleh
Lol, finally tried out Raijin's bsb + RW Cloud usb combo since Edea JS starts off weak to Thunder.
Did 50k x10, which is enough to 100-0 Edea on its own lol.
That was with only a 30% ATK/MAG buff and Shantotto's Lightning Chain at like 25 hits, a Multibreak and Tyro's bsb -20% DEF/RES cmd2. I had Meteor Crush on Raijin but forgot to use it, so the damage could have been even higher!
Edit: I really hope I pull a Thunder imperil at some point so i can use this on Thunder-neutral bosses.
Did 50k x10, which is enough to 100-0 Edea on its own lol.
That was with only a 30% ATK/MAG buff and Shantotto's Lightning Chain at like 25 hits, a Multibreak and Tyro's bsb -20% DEF/RES cmd2. I had Meteor Crush on Raijin but forgot to use it, so the damage could have been even higher!
Edit: I really hope I pull a Thunder imperil at some point so i can use this on Thunder-neutral bosses.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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Isn't Desch's BSB pretty good?
I went 3/11
Hope BSB (Dupe)
Hope BSB2 (Dupe)
Cid Raines SSB
I'm actually not too miffed since I have Cid's BSB and any stat boost feels welcome.
I went 3/11
Hope BSB (Dupe)
Hope BSB2 (Dupe)
Cid Raines SSB
I'm actually not too miffed since I have Cid's BSB and any stat boost feels welcome.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
I hate you guys who got Lightning USB. Hate.
I never seem to have good half price pulls.
1/11, Sazh gun SSB. Must be pretty old to just be protect and major regen.
The only positive is that it's new.
All story dungeons mastered. Last battle is d172.
It's
who still is as hard as ever. Had to bring my A Team to master it. All other battles I was able to master with Synergy teams.
1/11, Sazh gun SSB. Must be pretty old to just be protect and major regen.
The only positive is that it's new.
All story dungeons mastered. Last battle is d172.
It's
Proudclad
Top 5 after Raines BSB, and the 3 Maria clones BSBs (Maria, Papalymo, Edea).
Starwolf_UK
Member
I got a 4* in the daily draw.
Lucky draw 2/11
Luneth's Lust Dagger (dupe)
Delita's Runeblade
More tri element bursts...is the game trying to tell me something.
Those of you that got lightning USB see if you got many rosetta stones lying around. At 6* max augment you've got yourself a 202 atk boost lightning element sword. That is what I did and I'm still too bad at the game to fully clear content...maybe I should just blame a lack of wall
Lucky draw 2/11
Luneth's Lust Dagger (dupe)
Delita's Runeblade
More tri element bursts...is the game trying to tell me something.
Those of you that got lightning USB see if you got many rosetta stones lying around. At 6* max augment you've got yourself a 202 atk boost lightning element sword. That is what I did and I'm still too bad at the game to fully clear content...maybe I should just blame a lack of wall
Man Called Aerodynamics
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I love finding surprising interactions and synergies between characters and relics in this game. Before Hyper Mighty G, my healer always carried a cure spell in the first slot and Protectga or Shellga in the second slot. It didn't matter what else they were capable of carrying because their job was already set. Now with Proshellga taken care of by Rikku, I have a whole new appreciation for Wrath healers. Larsa is my main man now!
ETA: Also, I just acquired enough Lightning crystals to hone Valigarmanda to R2, think I'm gonna do it. I don't think the crystals conflict with anything else I want to hone.
ETA: Also, I just acquired enough Lightning crystals to hone Valigarmanda to R2, think I'm gonna do it. I don't think the crystals conflict with anything else I want to hone.
Onion BSB and Alphinaud BSB are also above the Maria clones (insta-cast is that good). I'd also rate Fujin BSB above the Maria clones for its utility, except against bosses where breaks are worthless (Nightmare/coming Magicite bosses). But yes, Desch BSB is really good, in the top 10 of mage BSB's.
I got a pretty great Lucky Draw pull all things considered.
Lightning OSB (which is nice as I have her USB/BSB2 already)
Serah BSB
Hope BSB2
Nice to get zero dupes.
As an aside, put me in the camp of Desch's BSB being great. It's probably the top Lightning mage BSB for damage throughput. And he's an interesting character in terms of his kit, Wrath access, Breakdowns, Machinist 5. For fights with anti mage components he can do solid damage just by using his BSB entry and then Tempest Sniping.
Lightning OSB (which is nice as I have her USB/BSB2 already)
Serah BSB
Hope BSB2
Nice to get zero dupes.
As an aside, put me in the camp of Desch's BSB being great. It's probably the top Lightning mage BSB for damage throughput. And he's an interesting character in terms of his kit, Wrath access, Breakdowns, Machinist 5. For fights with anti mage components he can do solid damage just by using his BSB entry and then Tempest Sniping.
In reference to the earlier mini discussion about major power orbs.
I looked the stuff up today to see how many I need and for what.
For "immediate desires" as one way of saying I'd like to get upgraded soon...
I would like to take:
Tornado Strike from r2 ----> r3 (40 MPO)
Full Charge from r2 ---> r3 (40 MPO)
Hailstorm from r2 ---> r3 (40 MPO)
Doppelblade from r2 ---> r3 (40 MPO)
Some of those (and a few others) I'd like to take to rank 4, but that will be during whenever the next fest is.
So other than Hailstorm, then it is for older abilities, but even Tornado isn't that old.. or doesnt seem it. Time does fly by so..
My most needed orb is Dark. Also I have a need for something like 140 Earth orbs, but that is the orb I have the most of, currently like 117 or something.
Also when you think of certain abilities (nothing to do with Power Orbs, just honing), I will often make my first character my tank, and I will equip them with Gaia Cross and Armor Strike, I then stack them up on Defense, sometimes even throwing in a defense RM.
But whenever I get Gaia Cross to rank 4'ish... then to me, I would never need to bring Armor Strike, thus opening up more utility. This is kind of my reply/thinking in response to not needing abilities past 4 hones.
It's like my breakdowns. They're all rank 5, but since they don't need to be spaced out for timing vs hones, I can just alternate two breakdowns for dps. Currently both my Vaan and Firion hit for 9999 everytime with any form of breakdown.
I looked the stuff up today to see how many I need and for what.
For "immediate desires" as one way of saying I'd like to get upgraded soon...
I would like to take:
Tornado Strike from r2 ----> r3 (40 MPO)
Full Charge from r2 ---> r3 (40 MPO)
Hailstorm from r2 ---> r3 (40 MPO)
Doppelblade from r2 ---> r3 (40 MPO)
Some of those (and a few others) I'd like to take to rank 4, but that will be during whenever the next fest is.
So other than Hailstorm, then it is for older abilities, but even Tornado isn't that old.. or doesnt seem it. Time does fly by so..
My most needed orb is Dark. Also I have a need for something like 140 Earth orbs, but that is the orb I have the most of, currently like 117 or something.
Also when you think of certain abilities (nothing to do with Power Orbs, just honing), I will often make my first character my tank, and I will equip them with Gaia Cross and Armor Strike, I then stack them up on Defense, sometimes even throwing in a defense RM.
But whenever I get Gaia Cross to rank 4'ish... then to me, I would never need to bring Armor Strike, thus opening up more utility. This is kind of my reply/thinking in response to not needing abilities past 4 hones.
It's like my breakdowns. They're all rank 5, but since they don't need to be spaced out for timing vs hones, I can just alternate two breakdowns for dps. Currently both my Vaan and Firion hit for 9999 everytime with any form of breakdown.
Doppelblade is one of the ones i shattered because i never used it.
Armor Strike is a garbage ability that i shattered long ago. You should be using Guardbringer with Gaia Cross ideally, or Saint Cross is what I used before Guardbringer came out. Retaliate is also great on characters that can use both obviously.
You also don't need that much DEF stacking for Guardbringer. Protectga, Wall, and Gaia Cross alone will get Guardbringer to 4 hits.
Also in regards to r4, you shouldn't need to go that high. Two r3 abilities is 12 uses total, if you go over that you're losing medals for Actions Taken and should probably adjust your strategy.
Taking abilities to r5 is especially unnecessary (except for summons). I also alternate between Full Break and a breakdown for dps without worrying about timing, and my FB is only r3 and my breakdowns are only r4.
Armor Strike is a garbage ability that i shattered long ago. You should be using Guardbringer with Gaia Cross ideally, or Saint Cross is what I used before Guardbringer came out. Retaliate is also great on characters that can use both obviously.
You also don't need that much DEF stacking for Guardbringer. Protectga, Wall, and Gaia Cross alone will get Guardbringer to 4 hits.
Also in regards to r4, you shouldn't need to go that high. Two r3 abilities is 12 uses total, if you go over that you're losing medals for Actions Taken and should probably adjust your strategy.
Taking abilities to r5 is especially unnecessary (except for summons). I also alternate between Full Break and a breakdown for dps without worrying about timing, and my FB is only r3 and my breakdowns are only r4.
The only 5* abilities I have at rank 4 are Titan (because summon), Ultra Cure (because the second slot for a healer is utility), and Thief's Revenge (because I pair it with Steal Power a lot).
For most stuff going past rank 3 will be overkill.
Also, Doppelblade is not very useful outside of niche AoE situations. I'd be hesitant to invest in it, especially with the better physical ninja options on the horizon.
For most stuff going past rank 3 will be overkill.
Also, Doppelblade is not very useful outside of niche AoE situations. I'd be hesitant to invest in it, especially with the better physical ninja options on the horizon.
Balphon seconded you, and as I was forming that list, Doppelblade was one I figured I probably could shatter, currently though it does about 12k on a couple characters who don't have better at disposal. Like Edge, I sometimes use it with him.
As for ArmorStrike, why would you call it a garbage ability when I constantly do 8k on a boss before buffs/debuffs and 9999 with any kind of buff? I mean, when you used it, did you ever see its potential?
As for Guardbringer, that's much more costly and it's a 5star at rank 2. Also, I don't remember, does that one have a holy element? Probably not, but regardless, while not hard to get those 4 hits, again mine is only 4 uses, and Armor Strike is a sure 9999. Great for a long fight or a torment.
As for Saints cross, ya, I love that ability. The only times I don't use Gaia Cross with Armor Strike or Saints Cross with Banishing strike, is if the elements associated with them are not ideal.
To recap! I'm thinking I may shatter doppel, but I used it just this last raid on Edge. He had doppel and shadowsteel or whatever it is, with Ninja abilities doing much more damage, doppel hit for 6k-6500 x2, and shadow hit for 8500-9999. This was without Shout or History's Truth or any 610 buff.
I think Armor Strike is a good ability.
Edit: As an aside, if I ever don't get all medals, its the usual 1 for actions 2 for damage taken but still an overall master that I see is pretty common. I don't always use up all my abilities either, but the Torments really make me grateful for this.
Someone posted something about a Torment being easy one time, and Syntsui or however you spell it quickly posted "hones". Obviously meaning a new player wouldnt have the hones necessary.
Ultra Cure is rank 4, but the only times I dont use it up is if I'm using a burst heal like Relm or Eiko. If I'm not using a burst healer, I have to slot in Curaja with 12 hones instead.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Did an 11-pull because I'm tired of striking out on all my recent pulls.
1/11, but it was Sephiroth BSB2, so at least something good and not a dupe.
1/11, but it was Sephiroth BSB2, so at least something good and not a dupe.
Armor Strike is garbage because 9999 doesn't impress me. I'm looking for at least 15k, preferrably 20k+. Guardbringer is totally useable at r2, i only recently honed mine to r3 and was using it before that, and i rarely use more than 4 uses even now.
As for Ultra Cure, the reason you're using it up is because your dps is low from using crap like Armor Strike, so the battles are dragging on longer.
As for Ultra Cure, the reason you're using it up is because your dps is low from using crap like Armor Strike, so the battles are dragging on longer.
ErasureAcer
Banned
Got 1/11
Nabaat's BSB.
Imperil Dark will go nicely with Kuja's.
Nabaat's BSB.
Imperil Dark will go nicely with Kuja's.
I end up using Onion OSB somewhat often, when a battle gets toward the end and I need to push an extra 30-50k of damage to end it faster rather than refresh VoF for a third time.
Also good for extra chip DPS in Jump Start battles, once VoF is up.
EDIT: Got super lucky and pulled Orlandeau OSB on the realm banner (+ dupe Refia BSB). Whoo!
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Snow burst is really underrated. I don't know if people realize it gives party Last Stand.
I use Onion OSB a fair amount. It's perfect for the end of a fight when you don't need a re-application of Vessel of Fate.
I rl lol'ed at how you connected the two.
I will test out Guardbringer a little more. Armorstrike is something I have slotted for over a year so perhaps it's time to let it rest.
That's what I did as well. Galuf uses Peerless from SB or SSB. Protectga once to deal with Junk spam.
Go to town.
Ninja Kn1ght
Member
Welp.
Tonberry solo is also super easy with edge ssb with haste, last stand and blink.
Tonberry does nothing for like 3 or 4 turns. So it's super easy to charge full meters with hit and run. Plus with its ai only attacking the highest hp character. It's super easy to control damage with a healer bsb. Some decent dps characters (or in my case 1 ultra dsp character) it's an easy win.
I used
Edge (ssb)
Raijin (bsb)
Garnet (bsb 2)
Ramza (shout, crit ssb)
Vanilla (bsb)
Rw cloud USB
No danger at all and raijin did 90 plus percent of the damage. Bsb detonate probably over killed the boss by 250k damage.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I succeed by borrowing this strategy. Replace Raijin with Lightning USB and Edge with Raijin (using the SSB which is useful here with party instacast-1, plus hi regen and last stand...made for this fight). At her peak Lightning USB was doing 20k a hit in entry (first one was less due to no en-lightning and not finishing the imperil) and thundering twinstike finished the fight with 2x38k which was overkill.
Only casualty was Raijin because I forget KO resist accessories (Ultimate It's sharp! has 93% chance of Death).
First attempt Cloud USB ran out at the end and Aura SB was mistiming so Garnet was ganked before she could do three imperil layers.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Team Refia burnin' up the competition.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
180 CM. Wind imperil 'n' spank.
220. Dark imperil 'n' mage spank. Very straightforward fights this week.
220. Dark imperil 'n' mage spank. Very straightforward fights this week.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
And Ultra Cross Slash + Cloud Cycle shenanigans took the JS home. Super easy event.
ErasureAcer
Banned
I dunno how much HP the raid boss has but I did the bulk of damage with Steiner's enFire BSB(fire solo 4/5 multi 2/3) and OSB. Which I hit for 99999 twice in a row and got off another while not enFired towards the end.
Pretty easy event. Toughest part was battling the stupid in the MP lobby.
Pretty easy event. Toughest part was battling the stupid in the MP lobby.
Worst part for the MP raid was the Tyro in my first group... First turn he used Wall. Okay, that's good! 25 seconds later after he was paralyzed for the whole time and the healer finally decided to use Ultra Cure on him he got a SB bar via Entrust from another player probably with the intention to cast another wall. What does he use? Keeper's Tome! Thankfully he got interrupted and I thought maybe he misclicked. I was spamming "Defense pls" and what does he use again? KEEPER'S TOME! WHYYYYY? Every fucking attack is physical in this fight and we had Protectga from another source.
Is there no real point to spend five mythril for the one-time relic draw? Seems farming for 15 is the better option, unless you were nuts enough to earn 50.
I've been plugging through the realms and I worry I'll soon be running out of myrhril drops. Will my only changes at that point to earn them through logins and events?
I've been plugging through the realms and I worry I'll soon be running out of myrhril drops. Will my only changes at that point to earn them through logins and events?
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